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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 11:00:56 GMT 10
I’d have to say the 2000s.
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Post by 10slover on Dec 7, 2021 0:06:46 GMT 10
50s because bullying wasn't taken seriously back then and teachers used to even beat the students
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Post by slashpop on Dec 7, 2021 0:26:35 GMT 10
20th century:
Worst:
1. 20s 30s 40s (more conservative and rigid than the 50s for the most part - social circumstances around great depression/ WW2 would make it very bad, communist and nazi era schooling doesn't get worse than this )
2. 1950s (massive conformity and lots of abusive culture but not as bad as imagined)
3. 2000s / 1980s (almost the same - mid to late 2000s and late 80s slightly less conformist. Both decades share a focus on materialism, patriotism and strong emphasis on group conformity and adhering to monoculture )
4. Most of 1970s / early to mid 1960s / late 2010s (somewhat leaning progressive but some co-existing popular belief systems allow for heavy groupthink - least bad)
Best:
1. Early to Mid 1990s (People forget that promotion of individualism, openness and multiculturalism and critical thinking within pop culture compared to the 80s made bullying a lot less even if there was some bigotry and conformity )
2. Most of the 2010s ( social culture actually reduced a big chunk of racism, homophobia and bigotry of the past even if social media/cancel culture/pc or anti pc culture could promote bullying in schools)
3. Late 90s and Early Y2K era ( This was when you started to see a few signs of group conformity of 2000s but they weren't in full effect and there was a balance between this that co-existed with the free spirited 90s)
4. Late 60s and early 1970s ( Promotion of peace and love and rebelling against the conformity of 1950s affected younger generations and reduced bullying but I would guess it was far from perfect.)
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Post by Telso on Dec 7, 2021 20:09:32 GMT 10
According to statistics, the 80s and majority of the 90s was peak bullying.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 7, 2021 22:21:31 GMT 10
I’d have to say the 2000s. Yeah its up there. I don't recommend charts, sometimes they can useful if they are from really legimate sources but they are rarely accurate otherwise, because its almost always a very limited sample size, likely not enough people are reporting what they went through and mostly only takes into account serious perceived or targeted serious bullying, violence, victimization, cyberbullying. They also aren't accurately representing every state or country. Nor do they describe very specific cultural attitudes in regard to bigoted attitudes or mild teasing/bullying/unacceptable behavior which was in many cases was considered normal at the time and not necessarily reported, until later when it was later not pc, or just that it was not considered as severe as other forms. A breakdown of the following would be interesting: ex. perception or attitudes of eastern europeans, muslims or LGBT, alternative people in high schools in the year 2001-2009 compared to 1990s and 2010s. There was undeniable negative attitudes and bullying in schools against muslims/middle eastern people, lbgt people, and those who were dfiferent (geeks, goths or just anyone), whites of non-anglo saxon descent as well, more than the 90s, which weren't perfect but still better in this regard than most of the 2000s, as someone who was old enough to fully lived through both decades, and moved around between Canada and the US. Here's another sample map, I don't think you can draw decade conclusions: 1920s to 1940s has to be the worst period for bullying at school. There are countless reports incidents of vile racism, kids getting whipped and beaten by teachers, all kinds of insane acts especially under communist and nazi regimes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 5:03:42 GMT 10
20th century: Worst: 1. 20s 30s 40s (more conservative and rigid than the 50s for the most part - social circumstances around great depression/ WW2 would make it very bad, communist and nazi era schooling doesn't get worse than this ) 2. 1950s (massive conformity and lots of abusive culture but not as bad as imagined) 3. 2000s / 1980s (almost the same - mid to late 2000s and late 80s slightly less conformist. Both decades share a focus on materialism, patriotism and strong emphasis on group conformity and adhering to monoculture ) 4. Most of 1970s / early to mid 1960s / late 2010s (somewhat leaning progressive but some co-existing popular belief systems allow for heavy groupthink - least bad) Best: 1. Early to Mid 1990s (People forget that promotion of individualism, openness and multiculturalism and critical thinking within pop culture compared to the 80s made bullying a lot less even if there was some bigotry and conformity ) 2. Most of the 2010s ( social culture actually reduced a big chunk of racism, homophobia and bigotry of the past even if social media/cancel culture/pc or anti pc culture could promote bullying in schools) 3. Late 90s and Early Y2K era ( This was when you started to see a few signs of group conformity of 2000s but they weren't in full effect and there was a balance between this that co-existed with the free spirited 90s) 4. Late 60s and early 1970s ( Promotion of peace and love and rebelling against the conformity of 1950s affected younger generations and reduced bullying but I would guess it was far from perfect.) I don't know if the 90s were really that much better than the 80s in this regard, at least in elementary school/junior high. The 1994-95 school year was my worst for bullying. While the monoculture looked different than it did in the 80s, conformity will still expected.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 8, 2021 5:37:57 GMT 10
20th century: Worst: 1. 20s 30s 40s (more conservative and rigid than the 50s for the most part - social circumstances around great depression/ WW2 would make it very bad, communist and nazi era schooling doesn't get worse than this ) 2. 1950s (massive conformity and lots of abusive culture but not as bad as imagined) 3. 2000s / 1980s (almost the same - mid to late 2000s and late 80s slightly less conformist. Both decades share a focus on materialism, patriotism and strong emphasis on group conformity and adhering to monoculture ) 4. Most of 1970s / early to mid 1960s / late 2010s (somewhat leaning progressive but some co-existing popular belief systems allow for heavy groupthink - least bad) Best: 1. Early to Mid 1990s (People forget that promotion of individualism, openness and multiculturalism and critical thinking within pop culture compared to the 80s made bullying a lot less even if there was some bigotry and conformity ) 2. Most of the 2010s ( social culture actually reduced a big chunk of racism, homophobia and bigotry of the past even if social media/cancel culture/pc or anti pc culture could promote bullying in schools) 3. Late 90s and Early Y2K era ( This was when you started to see a few signs of group conformity of 2000s but they weren't in full effect and there was a balance between this that co-existed with the free spirited 90s) 4. Late 60s and early 1970s ( Promotion of peace and love and rebelling against the conformity of 1950s affected younger generations and reduced bullying but I would guess it was far from perfect.) I don't know if the 90s were really that much better than the 80s in this regard, at least in elementary school/junior high. The 1994-95 school year was my worst for bullying. While the monoculture looked different than it did in the 80s, conformity will still expected. Experiencing the 90s and late 80s first hand all the way through I would have to disagree. No decade is perfect. The late 80s were more conservative and conformist and to some degree the early 90s but not entirely, most of the 90s were overall less racist, materialist and conformist compared to the 80s which trickled down into schoolyard culture. I don't think you being bullied in 1994-1995 has any bearing on this and is not a marker of the 90s being worse decade than the 2000s for bullying. There were insane and dangerous levels of bullying right after columbine, 9/11, during the iraq war, the amount of homophobia was at peak level in the early 2000s especially in high schools , it simply was not on the same level in the 90s even if it was there, even the late 90s felt like they sort of heading in this direction but nowhere near the 2000s. There is always conformity in every decade including the 90s, it wasn't perfect especially inner cities with gangs and small conservative towns, but at least a good part felt truly felt more open minded and less rigidly cookie cutter/conformist/materalistic/homophobic and right leaning compared to some part of the Y2K era to mid 2000s especially in the context of elementary school/junior high school and high school even there if still was some bigotry and some degree of a 90s monoculture. We are pretty close to the same age, I think you even agreed with me how the 90s were a more free spirited time compared to the late 90s to mid 2000s in earlier posts, mentioning how being slightly different could instantly get you bullied in the early 2000s. I don't think the 2010s are ideal as they seem the amount of social media bullying and threats if you a mistake with pc culture seems unforgiving or anti pc culture in this era makes me question how much better it truly is beyond the surface.
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Post by mc98 on Dec 8, 2021 5:44:57 GMT 10
I don't know if the 90s were really that much better than the 80s in this regard, at least in elementary school/junior high. The 1994-95 school year was my worst for bullying. While the monoculture looked different than it did in the 80s, conformity will still expected. Experiencing the 90s first hand all the way through I would have to disagree. No decade is perfect. The late 80s were more conservative and conformist and to some degree the early 90s but not entirely, the 90s were less racist, materialist and conformist compared to the 80s which trickled down into schoolyard culture. I don't think you being bullied in 1994-1995 has any bearing or a marker of the 90s being worse decade than the 2000s for bullying though. There were insane and dangerous levels of bullying right after columbine, 9/11, during the iraq war, the amount of homophobia was at peak level in the early 2000s especially in high schools , it simply was not on the same level in the 90s even if it was there, even the late 90s felt like they sort of heading in this direction but nowhere near the 2000s. There is always conformity in every decade including the 90s, it wasn't perfect especially inner cities with gangs and small conservative towns, but at least a good part felt truly felt more open minded and less rigidly cookie cutter/conformist/materalistic/homophobic and right leaning compared to some part of the Y2K era to mid 2000s especially in the context of elementary school/junior high school and high school even there if still was some bigotry and some degree of a 90s monoculture. We are pretty close to the same age, I think you even agreed with me how the 90s were a more free spirited time compared to the late 90s to mid 2000s in earlier posts, mentioning how being slightly different could instantly get you bullied in the early 2000s. I don't think the 2010s are ideal as they seem the amount of social media bullying and threats if you a mistake with pc culture seems unforgiving or anti pc culture in this era makes me question how much better it truly is beyond the surface. Bullying in schools was not too bad most of the 2010s but the internet was toxic af, especially around 2015-2018 when cringe culture and edgy forums humor were rampant.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 8, 2021 5:48:17 GMT 10
Experiencing the 90s first hand all the way through I would have to disagree. No decade is perfect. The late 80s were more conservative and conformist and to some degree the early 90s but not entirely, the 90s were less racist, materialist and conformist compared to the 80s which trickled down into schoolyard culture. I don't think you being bullied in 1994-1995 has any bearing or a marker of the 90s being worse decade than the 2000s for bullying though. There were insane and dangerous levels of bullying right after columbine, 9/11, during the iraq war, the amount of homophobia was at peak level in the early 2000s especially in high schools , it simply was not on the same level in the 90s even if it was there, even the late 90s felt like they sort of heading in this direction but nowhere near the 2000s. There is always conformity in every decade including the 90s, it wasn't perfect especially inner cities with gangs and small conservative towns, but at least a good part felt truly felt more open minded and less rigidly cookie cutter/conformist/materalistic/homophobic and right leaning compared to some part of the Y2K era to mid 2000s especially in the context of elementary school/junior high school and high school even there if still was some bigotry and some degree of a 90s monoculture. We are pretty close to the same age, I think you even agreed with me how the 90s were a more free spirited time compared to the late 90s to mid 2000s in earlier posts, mentioning how being slightly different could instantly get you bullied in the early 2000s. I don't think the 2010s are ideal as they seem the amount of social media bullying and threats if you a mistake with pc culture seems unforgiving or anti pc culture in this era makes me question how much better it truly is beyond the surface. Bullying in schools was not too bad most of the 2010s but the internet was toxic af, especially around 2015-2018 when cringe culture and edgy forums humor were rampant. The amount of teen suicides, self harm and bullying via social media or canceling your friends if they don't agree with your political views, is something that never existed in the 90s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 6:11:05 GMT 10
According to statistics, the 80s and majority of the 90s was peak bullying. I don’t believe the charts are accurate. They don’t account for all types of bullying, all states, populations, samples, unspoken things, things that are considered normal at the time etc. 2000s were worse for bullying. The charts don't explain anything.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 8:44:46 GMT 10
20th century: Worst: 1. 20s 30s 40s (more conservative and rigid than the 50s for the most part - social circumstances around great depression/ WW2 would make it very bad, communist and nazi era schooling doesn't get worse than this ) 2. 1950s (massive conformity and lots of abusive culture but not as bad as imagined) 3. 2000s / 1980s (almost the same - mid to late 2000s and late 80s slightly less conformist. Both decades share a focus on materialism, patriotism and strong emphasis on group conformity and adhering to monoculture ) 4. Most of 1970s / early to mid 1960s / late 2010s (somewhat leaning progressive but some co-existing popular belief systems allow for heavy groupthink - least bad) Best: 1. Early to Mid 1990s (People forget that promotion of individualism, openness and multiculturalism and critical thinking within pop culture compared to the 80s made bullying a lot less even if there was some bigotry and conformity ) 2. Most of the 2010s ( social culture actually reduced a big chunk of racism, homophobia and bigotry of the past even if social media/cancel culture/pc or anti pc culture could promote bullying in schools) 3. Late 90s and Early Y2K era ( This was when you started to see a few signs of group conformity of 2000s but they weren't in full effect and there was a balance between this that co-existed with the free spirited 90s) 4. Late 60s and early 1970s ( Promotion of peace and love and rebelling against the conformity of 1950s affected younger generations and reduced bullying but I would guess it was far from perfect.) I don't know if the 90s were really that much better than the 80s in this regard, at least in elementary school/junior high. The 1994-95 school year was my worst for bullying. While the monoculture looked different than it did in the 80s, conformity will still expected. I believe the 2000s were worse than the 1990s in this regard, at least in elementary school. I can imagine middle and high school bullying in the 2000s being worse. The school years of the 2000s seemed to be worse than the 1994-1995 or any of the 1990s school years in comparison. For me, the 2005-2006 through the 2009-2010 school years were the worst bullying I’ve experienced. I’m pretty sure that’s worse than the 1990s. 2000s monoculture seemed more mandatory than in the 1990s, even if 1990s monoculture existed. Conformity and clear-cut, black and white, conservative attitudes were mandatory and commonplace in the 2000s. The 1990s strike me as a more carefree and free-spirited era.
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Post by 10slover on Dec 8, 2021 8:50:54 GMT 10
I don't know if the 90s were really that much better than the 80s in this regard, at least in elementary school/junior high. The 1994-95 school year was my worst for bullying. While the monoculture looked different than it did in the 80s, conformity will still expected. Experiencing the 90s and late 80s first hand all the way through I would have to disagree. No decade is perfect. The late 80s were more conservative and conformist and to some degree the early 90s but not entirely, most of the 90s were overall less racist, materialist and conformist compared to the 80s which trickled down into schoolyard culture. I don't think you being bullied in 1994-1995 has any bearing on this and is not a marker of the 90s being worse decade than the 2000s for bullying. There were insane and dangerous levels of bullying right after columbine, 9/11, during the iraq war, the amount of homophobia was at peak level in the early 2000s especially in high schools , it simply was not on the same level in the 90s even if it was there, even the late 90s felt like they sort of heading in this direction but nowhere near the 2000s. There is always conformity in every decade including the 90s, it wasn't perfect especially inner cities with gangs and small conservative towns, but at least a good part felt truly felt more open minded and less rigidly cookie cutter/conformist/materalistic/homophobic and right leaning compared to some part of the Y2K era to mid 2000s especially in the context of elementary school/junior high school and high school even there if still was some bigotry and some degree of a 90s monoculture. We are pretty close to the same age, I think you even agreed with me how the 90s were a more free spirited time compared to the late 90s to mid 2000s in earlier posts, mentioning how being slightly different could instantly get you bullied in the early 2000s. I don't think the 2010s are ideal as they seem the amount of social media bullying and threats if you a mistake with pc culture seems unforgiving or anti pc culture in this era makes me question how much better it truly is beyond the surface. The 2010s might not be "ideal" but they're still miles better than the 00s and 90s when it comes to less bullying in schools And I'll take 10 years of online harassment over 1 year of IRL harassment Yeah, the early 2000s were brutally homophobic, you can even see it reflected on the media of that time: constant transphobic jokes, jokes about gay men being gross, fetishization of gay/bi women and etc
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Dec 8, 2021 8:59:45 GMT 10
Circa 2016/2017 it was common to make “fan pages” of people on Instagram to make fun of them, which is something I used to do (not proud of it but it happened). That was the type of bullying that happened in that era, not really outward bullying like in the 2000’s.
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Post by aja675 on Dec 13, 2021 13:25:12 GMT 10
Circa 2016/2017 it was common to make “fan pages” of people on Instagram to make fun of them, which is something I used to do (not proud of it but it happened). That was the type of bullying that happened in that era, not really outward bullying like in the 2000’s. I remember this, but from 2013 or 2014 and on Facebook.
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Post by Telso on Dec 13, 2021 22:15:27 GMT 10
I don’t believe the charts are accurate. They don’t account for all types of bullying, all states, populations, samples, unspoken things, things that are considered normal at the time etc. 2000s were worse for bullying. The charts don't explain anything. Yes, studies don't explain anything. But somehow your unproven, unsourced statements based on feelings do.
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