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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 10, 2021 14:55:29 GMT 10
Not 2010s music related, but have you heard the two songs from the 90s such as “Foolish Games” by Jewel and “Angel” by Sarah McLachlan? Both songs are piano driven ballad songs. You don’t think those two songs have meaning too? 20th century ballads tend to have more soul than 2010s ballads, adele included. I agree that 2010s ballads are just boring for the sake of being boring, unlike say 90s R&B ballads.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 10, 2021 15:11:02 GMT 10
20th century ballads tend to have more soul than 2010s ballads, adele included. I agree that 2010s ballads are just boring for the sake of being boring, unlike say 90s R&B ballads. Yeah, i'd say that's it. Took the words out of my mouth. 20th century ballads were still enjoyable to listen to, 2010s ballads just feel like singers trying to be as bland as possible because they think a ballad has to be like that.
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Post by Telso on Dec 10, 2021 22:16:36 GMT 10
20th century ballads tend to have more soul than 2010s ballads, adele included. I agree that 2010s ballads are just boring for the sake of being boring, unlike say 90s R&B ballads. A lot of 90s ballads are pretty boring too though. Bryan Adams' "(Everything I Do) I Do It for You" is very painful to sit through and is easily worse than any Adele song.
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Post by Telso on Dec 10, 2021 22:55:46 GMT 10
I agree that 2010s ballads are just boring for the sake of being boring, unlike say 90s R&B ballads. Yeah, i'd say that's it. Took the words out of my mouth. 20th century ballads were still enjoyable to listen to, 2010s ballads just feel like singers trying to be as bland as possible because they think a ballad has to be like that. I think it's more of a question that the 2010s ballads are still fresh in people's minds so any dislike they ever had for them are still present, while a lot of the bad ballads of the 20th century are pretty much forgotten at this point. But trust me, the 20th century was chuckfull of terrible ballads. The mid-70s and late 80s were particularly bad times for soft rock and adult contemporary respectively. Songs like Paul Anka's "You're Having My Baby", anything by the Osmonds, Captain & Tenille's "Muskrat Love", Richard Marx' "Hold On to the Nights", NOTB's "I'll Be Loving You Forever" and Michael Bolton's "That's What Love is All About" all make me want to repulse in nausea.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 11, 2021 0:03:42 GMT 10
Yeah, i'd say that's it. Took the words out of my mouth. 20th century ballads were still enjoyable to listen to, 2010s ballads just feel like singers trying to be as bland as possible because they think a ballad has to be like that. I think it's more of a question that the 2010s ballads are still fresh in people's minds so any dislike they ever had for them are still present, while a lot of the bad ballads of the 20th century are pretty much forgotten at this point. But trust me, the 20th century was chuckfull of terrible ballads. The mid-70s and late 80s were particularly bad times for soft rock and adult contemporary respectively. Songs like Paul Anka's "You're Having My Baby", anything by the Osmonds, Captain & Tenille's "Muskrat Love", Richard Marx' "Hold On to the Nights", NOTB's "I'll Be Loving You Forever" and Michael Bolton's "That's What Love is All About" all make me want to repulse in nausea. They had soul at least. 2010s ballads feel completely commercialised.
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Post by 10slover on Dec 11, 2021 0:18:19 GMT 10
Yeah, i'd say that's it. Took the words out of my mouth. 20th century ballads were still enjoyable to listen to, 2010s ballads just feel like singers trying to be as bland as possible because they think a ballad has to be like that. I think it's more of a question that the 2010s ballads are still fresh in people's minds so any dislike they ever had for them are still present, while a lot of the bad ballads of the 20th century are pretty much forgotten at this point. But trust me, the 20th century was chuckfull of terrible ballads. The mid-70s and late 80s were particularly bad times for soft rock and adult contemporary respectively. Songs like Paul Anka's "You're Having My Baby", anything by the Osmonds, Captain & Tenille's "Muskrat Love", Richard Marx' "Hold On to the Nights", NOTB's "I'll Be Loving You Forever" and Michael Bolton's "That's What Love is All About" all make me want to repulse in nausea. And don't forget literally the biggest song of the 70s "You Light Up My Life" by Debby Boone Boring ass ballad, SAPPY and SOULLESS, but it was HUGE (stayed number one for more than 10 weeks, it was a HUGE deal back then, no song had done anything like that before) If you asked someone in 1977 what was the biggest hit song of that year they would almost certainly say "You Light Up My Life" And yet nowdays when people think "1977" they usually think of a bee gees, donna summer or Boney M song. You won't find "you light up my life" in 70s greastest hits compilations, not even in 1977 playlists. Thankfully it was forgotten overtime (alongside a bunch of other trash songs from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s) And the same thing will happen to the trash songs of the 10s eventually This whole thread is a big example of survivorship bias
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 11, 2021 0:29:11 GMT 10
I think it's more of a question that the 2010s ballads are still fresh in people's minds so any dislike they ever had for them are still present, while a lot of the bad ballads of the 20th century are pretty much forgotten at this point. But trust me, the 20th century was chuckfull of terrible ballads. The mid-70s and late 80s were particularly bad times for soft rock and adult contemporary respectively. Songs like Paul Anka's "You're Having My Baby", anything by the Osmonds, Captain & Tenille's "Muskrat Love", Richard Marx' "Hold On to the Nights", NOTB's "I'll Be Loving You Forever" and Michael Bolton's "That's What Love is All About" all make me want to repulse in nausea. And don't forget literally the biggest song of the 70s "You Light Up My Life" by Debby Boone Boring ass ballad, SAPPY and SOULLESS, but it was HUGE (stayed number one for more than 10 weeks, it was a HUGE deal back then, no song had done anything like that before) If you asked someone in 1977 what was the biggest hit song of that year they would almost certainly say "You Light Up My Life" And yet nowdays when people think "1977" they usually think of a bee gees, donna summer or Boney M song. You won't find "you light up my life" in 70s greastest hits compilations, not even in 1977 playlists. Thankfully it was forgotten overtime (alongside a bunch of other trash songs from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s) And the same thing will happen to the trash songs of the 10s eventually This whole thread is a big example of survivorship bias That song has infinitely more soul than most 2010s ballads
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Post by mc98 on Dec 11, 2021 0:47:57 GMT 10
Still though, I’d rather listen to Adele’s ballads than that forgotten sap from the 70s.
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Post by y2kbaby on Dec 11, 2021 2:48:29 GMT 10
I feel like the OP is picking and choosing at this point. There has been songs in the 10 years that has “soul”. Let’s not act as every song recorded in the 20th Century was good. Some songs back in the day are straight up bad or cringe worthy to listen to in today’s world. I agree with the others that “You Light Up My Life” is a cringe worthy song.
We can all agree that a song like “Lights” by Ellie Goulding has more heart and soul than a song such as “Axel F” by Crazy Frog.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 11, 2021 4:48:48 GMT 10
I feel like the OP is picking and choosing at this point. There has been songs in the 10 years that has “soul”. Let’s not act as every song recorded in the 20th Century was good. Some songs back in the day are straight up bad or cringe worthy to listen to in today’s world. I agree with the others that “You Light Up My Life” is a cringe worthy song. We can all agree that a song like “Lights” by Ellie Goulding has more heart and soul than a song such as “Axel F” by Crazy Frog. Nope. There are outliers where a song feels like it has soul in the 2010s but i'm not exaggurating when I say like at least 95% feel like commercialised over-produced boring trash. Even bad songs from the 20th century feel a lot more soulful and authentic.
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Post by y2kbaby on Dec 11, 2021 5:51:33 GMT 10
Sure Jan😏
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Post by Telso on Dec 12, 2021 2:34:07 GMT 10
And don't forget literally the biggest song of the 70s "You Light Up My Life" by Debby Boone Boring ass ballad, SAPPY and SOULLESS, but it was HUGE (stayed number one for more than 10 weeks, it was a HUGE deal back then, no song had done anything like that before) If you asked someone in 1977 what was the biggest hit song of that year they would almost certainly say "You Light Up My Life" OMG yes!!! It might be one of the worst songs of all-time. Made worse when you realize she's the daughter of Pat Boone, the asshole that sold tons of records by cashing in on late 50s racism and releasing awful watered down rock&roll/r&b to white audiences. Probably the only reason why this dribble got so huge in the first place. I almost wanted to make a thread just to bash on this. They had soul at least. 2010s ballads feel completely commercialised. Eh... I mean ballads were so big on the charts at some point that artists were clearly releasing ballads just for the sake of appealing to the radios. Take the glam metal bands in 1989-1992 for example, after seeing how well power ballads were doing on the charts, were shitting them out just to have guaranteed hits. At least now that ballads have a lot less dominance on the charts, artists have more of a chance to make geniune material since it's no longer a guaranteed success. Kesha's "Praying" for example is one of the most geniune ballads of the last 30 years or so.
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