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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 15, 2021 10:12:04 GMT 10
If COVID-19 (March 2020) were put where 9/11 (September 2001) was, it would look like this:
2018 - 1999/2000
2019 - 2000/2001
2020 - 2001/2002
2021 - 2002/2003
2022 - 2003/2004
We'd be around mid 2003 right now. Kinda dumb I know but interesting to think about...
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Post by Cassie on Dec 15, 2021 10:19:08 GMT 10
Honestly kind of makes sense...
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Post by 10slover on Dec 15, 2021 10:23:40 GMT 10
It almost works but 2019 has more in common with 1999 rather than 2000
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 10:57:49 GMT 10
If COVID-19 (March 2020) were put where 9/11 (September 2001) was, it would look like this: 2018 - 1999/2000 2019 - 2000/2001 2020 - 2001/2002 2021 - 2002/2003 2022 - 2003/2004 We'd be around mid 2003 right now. Kinda dumb I know but interesting to think about... Covid is more comparable to the stock market crash of 1929 or the attacks on Pearl Harbor in 1941. In terms of historical significance and long-lasting effects, 9/11 was small potatoes compared to Covid (and everything else that happened in 2020). It's a generation-defining or possibly even a century-defining crisis. Not just the disease itself but all of the societal changes and upheaval that it has brought.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 15, 2021 11:03:16 GMT 10
If COVID-19 (March 2020) were put where 9/11 (September 2001) was, it would look like this: 2018 - 1999/2000 2019 - 2000/2001 2020 - 2001/2002 2021 - 2002/2003 2022 - 2003/2004 We'd be around mid 2003 right now. Kinda dumb I know but interesting to think about... Covid is more comparable to the stock market crash of 1929 or the attacks on Pearl Harbor in 1941. In terms of historical significance and long-lasting effects, 9/11 was small potatoes compared to Covid (and everything else that happened in 2020). It's a generation-defining or possibly even a century-defining crisis. Not just the disease itself but all of the societal changes and upheaval that it has brought. I'm using 9/11 because the early 2000s is a more relevant time to compare the early 2020s to than the 1930s and 1940s...
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Post by John Titor on Dec 15, 2021 11:09:46 GMT 10
To put this in perspective
3 1/2 weeks after 9/11 the mall was packed waiting for GTA 3 to release, we were already on track to get back to normal, as with Covid
there were lockdowns, I get why people compare it because that is the only other thing waking life we can compare it to.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 15, 2021 11:48:13 GMT 10
If right now is equivalent to mid 2003, then shouldn’t we be in a war? the vibe tbh with you if I was to put a year on it would be 2001-2002 mixed in with late 2002
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 15, 2021 12:12:35 GMT 10
If right now is equivalent to mid 2003, then shouldn’t we be in a war? what I mean is that if March 2020 were September 2001, right now would be around June 2003. Also, late 2004 was when people seemed to officially put 9/11 behind them, could early/mid 2023 be the same situation but with COVID? I really hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 12:31:54 GMT 10
Covid is more comparable to the stock market crash of 1929 or the attacks on Pearl Harbor in 1941. In terms of historical significance and long-lasting effects, 9/11 was small potatoes compared to Covid (and everything else that happened in 2020). It's a generation-defining or possibly even a century-defining crisis. Not just the disease itself but all of the societal changes and upheaval that it has brought. I'm using 9/11 because the early 2000s is a more relevant time to compare the early 2020s to than the 1930s and 1940s... In terms of the overall cycles of history, in my opinion the 2020s seem to "rhyme" with the 1930s/40s, 1850s/60s, and 1770s/80s. Very few people alive today have seen times like this in their lifetime. The book below is a very interesting read on this topic. www.amazon.com/Fourth-Turning-American-Prophecy-Rendezvous/dp/0767900464From the synopsis: First comes a High, a period of confident expansion as a new order takes root after the old has been swept away. Next comes an Awakening, a time of spiritual exploration and rebellion against the now-established order. Then comes an Unraveling, an increasingly troubled era in which individualism triumphs over crumbling institutions. Last comes a Crisis—the Fourth Turning—when society passes through a great and perilous gate in history. Together, the four turnings comprise history's seasonal rhythm of growth, maturation, entropy, and rebirth. We are now well into our "crisis" cycle of history which should last into the 2030s or possibly even 2040s. 9/11 fell firmly in the "unraveling" cycle and may be comparable to World War I. We are now in our "Great Depression" and the coming war will be our World War II.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 12:33:07 GMT 10
Class of 2018: late 1999-mid 2000 borns
Class of 2019: late 2000-mid 2001 borns
Class of 2020: late 2001-mid 2002 borns
Class of 2021: late 2002-mid 2003 borns
Class of 2022: late 2003-mid 2004 borns
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Post by Telso on Dec 17, 2021 0:05:48 GMT 10
I'm using 9/11 because the early 2000s is a more relevant time to compare the early 2020s to than the 1930s and 1940s... Why not using the 2008 recession then? I really don't think a one day American event is comparable to a worldwide pandemic that's dragging close to 2 years now and is impacting much of everyday day life...
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 17, 2021 4:51:25 GMT 10
It's weird. It feels like mid 2003 is much further away from Autumn 2001 than Now is compared to March 2020 but in reality they're about the same distance.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 17, 2021 5:55:27 GMT 10
It's weird. It feels like mid 2003 is much further away from Autumn 2001 than Now is compared to March 2020 but in reality they're about the same distance. maybe because 2001 and 2003 are two years apart while 2020 and 2021 are one year apart.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Dec 17, 2021 5:56:42 GMT 10
It's weird. It feels like mid 2003 is much further away from Autumn 2001 than Now is compared to March 2020 but in reality they're about the same distance. maybe because 2001 and 2003 are two years apart while 2020 and 2021 are one year apart. Yeah pretty much that. And because 2003 is so close to the middle of the decade whereas 2001 is the second year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 7:35:42 GMT 10
I'm using 9/11 because the early 2000s is a more relevant time to compare the early 2020s to than the 1930s and 1940s... Why not using the 2008 recession then? I really don't think a one day American event is comparable to a worldwide pandemic that's dragging close to 2 years now and is impacting much of everyday day life... The 2008 recession will likely end up being perceived as very mild compared to the 2020s depression when the history books are written. It is a better comparison though than 9/11. Still, life mostly went on even during the bad economy in the early 2010s. Not so in the early 2020s. I look at our current reality as something like what a worst-case scenario could have been for 2008, if Lehman would have been allowed to collapse and if there would have been no bank bailout, and then if the swine flu would have been as bad as people early on were panicking. We all dodged a bullet back then, but we didn't in 2020.
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