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Post by rainbow on Dec 10, 2017 8:58:47 GMT 10
The music of 2018 will be the same as the music of 2017 - rubbish! You don't know for sure though because nobody can accurately predict the future
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:35:16 GMT 10
Fair point, Rainbow, but I don't like today's music anyway. It speaks to neither my head nor my heart, is boring and I just don't 'get it'. Maybe because I'm too old.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 10, 2017 23:00:16 GMT 10
Fair point, Rainbow, but I don't like today's music anyway. It speaks to neither my head nor my heart, is boring and I just don't 'get it'. Maybe because I'm too old. Age doesn't have anything to do with something that is genuinely horrible. I turn 19 in three months time, yet i'm not a fan of today's music either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 3:09:38 GMT 10
Too bloody right, mate, as you'd say over there!
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Post by Mibblez on Jan 2, 2018 10:58:54 GMT 10
I'm not going to think of the worse for this year because there's a lot of good songs this decade, you just gotta find it a bit harder usually. I wouldn't be surprised if the music scene will be the same though. But I know it's gonna change soon, and if it does happen this year then whoop I'm all for it. I can't wait for my revival of mainstream rock and more up beat sounding pop music to comeback
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 2, 2018 12:35:56 GMT 10
I'm not going to think of the worse for this year because there's a lot of good songs this decade, you just gotta find it a bit harder usually. I wouldn't be surprised if the music scene will be the same though. But I know it's gonna change soon, and if it does happen this year then whoop I'm all for it. I can't wait for my revival of mainstream rock and more up beat sounding pop music to comeback I'm hoping that the music scene will change sometime in the next 6-12 months. Another thing to consider, is that most of the songs which were popular in 2017 were written/recorded a year earlier. This year, we will get to truly see what the "products" of 2017 are.
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 5, 2018 10:23:30 GMT 10
Modern trap, aka Soundcloud rap's dominance of music does not seem to be slowing down at all. I am seriously terrified that by the end of 2018, there won't be anything else left. Cardi B is apparently the biggest new star right now, and all of the songs I've heard from her absolutely suck. The hit singles by Lil' Pump, 21 Savage, Big Shaq, Lil Uzi Vert, and so on are certainly not any better. We've gotten to the point that even regular pop stars are heavily integrating trap snares into their songs, even if the tracks themselves are composed and delivered with far more passion. I really wouldn't be surprised, at this rate, if Jake Paul starts scoring legit pop hits, maybe even the other members of Team 10, as well.
Right now, Camila Cabello is my last real hope for the future of 2010s pop music. She's an incredibly charismatic performer and has put out more than a few tracks that display quite a lot of potential. It worries me that "Never Be the Same" is already falling off the charts, even though its official release still technically isn't for a few days. Whatever the case, she deserves to be far more than a solo one-hit wonder for "Havana." I'll most likely pick up her upcoming album next week and pray that not only is it good, but that it's still relevant a few months from now.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 11:20:33 GMT 10
Modern trap, aka Soundcloud rap's dominance of music does not seem to be slowing down at all. I am seriously terrified that by the end of 2018, there won't be anything else left. Cardi B is apparently the biggest new star right now, and all of the songs I've heard from her absolutely suck. The hit singles by Lil' Pump, 21 Savage, Big Shaq, Lil Uzi Vert, and so on are certainly not any better. We've gotten to the point that even regular pop stars are heavily integrating trap snares into their songs, even if the tracks themselves are composed and delivered with far more passion. I really wouldn't be surprised, at this rate, if Jake Paul starts scoring legit pop hits, maybe even the other members of Team 10, as well. Right now, Camila Cabello is my last real hope for the future of 2010s pop music. She's an incredibly charismatic performer and has put out more than a few tracks that display quite a lot of potential. It worries me that "Never Be the Same" is already falling off the charts, even though its official release still technically isn't for a few days. Whatever the case, she deserves to be far more than a solo one-hit wonder for "Havana." I'll most likely pick up her upcoming album next week and pray that not only is it good, but that it's still relevant a few months from now. The thing that i'm really concerned about, is that all of the music charts are really homogenous at the moment. For instance, "Perfect" by Ed Sheeran is the #1 song in the US, UK, Australia and New Zealand this week. The Top-10 are almost all identical to each other. There's little variation at all. I'm worried that it's going to become the norm. I thought Trap music would have declined by this point, but like you mentioned, it doesn't look like the movement is going to end anytime soon. I honestly can't believe how awful the music charts currently are.
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 5, 2018 12:01:45 GMT 10
The thing that i'm really concerned about, is that all of the music charts are really homogenous at the moment. For instance, "Perfect" by Ed Sheeran is the #1 song in the US, UK, Australia and New Zealand this week. The Top-10 are almost all identical to each other. There's little variation at all. I'm worried that it's going to become the norm. It's not uncommon for a big single to be at the top of the charts in multiple countries, but why something as middling as "Perfect?" It's certainly better than seeing "Gucci Gang" hold the #1 slot everywhere, but Ed Sheeran has already been overexposed enough this year. He already set a record for most overexposure in a single year with the matter of a few weeks back when every single song off ÷ was in the UK top 20, but apparently, all of that still wasn't enough. "Shape of You" is still in the top 10 on iTunes over here, even though it's one of the dorkiest songs to ever dominate the charts unironically ("now my bedsheets smell like you???").I'll be genuinely angry if Cardi B is still huge throughout 2018 but Camila Cabello isn't. Of course, if everything was completely in my control, I'd want music to be more like it was in 1982-1985 or 1994-2001, but if I want to at least be realistic, I'd be relieved if the sound of 2018 was closer to Camila Cabello and less like the infestation of Soundcloud rappers currently swarming the charts, even in the UK. Todd in the Shadows brilliantly summed up why 2017 was such a lousy year for music in his year-end countdown of the worst songs of the year: I disagree with "Havana" sounding the same as everything else, as well as "Slow Hands" being a bad song due to one dumb line, but otherwise this whole countdown is perfectly on the mark.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 12:18:24 GMT 10
I'll be genuinely angry if Cardi B is still huge throughout 2018 but Camila Cabello isn't. Of course, if everything was completely in my control, I'd want music to be more like it was in 1982-1985 or 1994-2001, but if I want to at least be realistic, I'd be relieved if the sound of 2018 was closer to Camila Cabello and less like the infestation of Soundcloud rappers currently swarming the charts, even in the UK. I don't think I've ever listened to "Havana" before, so I can't really judge if it's any good or not. I'm just completely out of touch with most of the songs on the Top-40. Maybe I have listened to it before, but because i'm not familiar with the song, I didn't recognise it. It probably doesn't help that most of the radio stations in my area have been overplaying "Young, Dumb and Broke" and "Sorry, Not Sorry" to death. Yeah, I generally agree with the songs that were in the countdown. Although, I've never listened to that Lil' Pump song or "1800-273-8255" before. The exact same thing happened here in Australia as well. I really couldn't believe it.
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 5, 2018 12:39:18 GMT 10
I'll be genuinely angry if Cardi B is still huge throughout 2018 but Camila Cabello isn't. Of course, if everything was completely in my control, I'd want music to be more like it was in 1982-1985 or 1994-2001, but if I want to at least be realistic, I'd be relieved if the sound of 2018 was closer to Camila Cabello and less like the infestation of Soundcloud rappers currently swarming the charts, even in the UK. I don't think I've ever listened to "Havana" before, so I can't really judge if it's any good or not. I'm just completely out of touch with most of the songs on the Top-40. Maybe I have listened to it before, but because i'm not familiar with the song, I didn't recognise it. It has a strong, booming, grooving beat, a cool piano loop, and an actual melody. Camila Cabello is also one of the very few singers currently relevant with a flavourful voice, one which sports a strong range and a confident vulnerability. I'd far rather listen to her siren song than all of the robo-musicians surrounding her. It's frankly pretty amazing how inert the charts are in certain cases. Besides "Shape of You"'s perpetual presence, both of Imagine Dragons' songs are also still in the iTunes top 10 despite being around for several months, a year in "Believer"'s case. In fact, "Thunder" was at #1 just yesterday, prior to Bruno Mars' new song with Cardi B just coming out. Actually, "Finesse" is not bad – it's great to hear new jack swing finally return in some form – but at this point it's just Bruno Mars' gimmick to release a smash hit emulating a retro genre of music, so I certainly wouldn't expect it to wash away all the Soundcloud rap, even with Cardi B dressing like 1992-era Lisa Lopes instead of doing whatever she did with "Bodak Yellow." "Gucci Gang" only just recently came out, but it's quite a turd. The fact that its RYM average is higher than a solid chunk of my favourite pop songs from the late 90s and early 2000s is downright disturbing to me. I'm glad the same thing at least didn't happen with Taylor Swift's Reputation, which basically lost relevance within a matter of weeks.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 13:01:06 GMT 10
It has a strong, booming, grooving beat, a cool piano loop, and an actual melody. Camila Cabello is also one of the very few singers currently relevant with a flavourful voice, one which sports a strong range and a confident vulnerability. I'd far rather listen to her siren song than all of the robo-musicians surrounding her. Interesting. I'll definitely have to give it a listen. By the sounds of it, it's better than most of the other songs which are currently on the charts. Streaming is to blame for that. I really think that there needs to be stricter criteria in what can or can't chart. I know some songs are naturally more popular/influential than others, but "Shape of You" and Imagine Dragons' songs shouldn't still be on the music charts. Me too. Of course, it remains to be seen how Taylor Swift's career will pan out in the next few years, although it wouldn't surprise me if Reputation has signaled the gradual downfall of her popularity.
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Post by longaotian on Jan 5, 2018 18:43:09 GMT 10
Too much trap and EDM dominating the charts. "Gucci Gang" & "Bodak Yellow" are complete trash even though people think they are genuinely good songs. Ed Sheeran has had countless No.1 singles worldwide over the past year and I am absolutely sick of hearing him. "Havana" is good but a little overplayed. 1989>Reputation. I'm so pissed off right now, the charts are absolute trash.
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 6, 2018 0:29:50 GMT 10
I actually really like Justin Timberlake's brand new single a lot. It very much sounds like something people will either love or hate, but good god, it's such an immense breath of fresh air to hear something that actually grooves and challenges the status quo of hollow, energyless Soundcloud trap and algorithm EDM. Between that and the remix "Finesse," I suppose 2018 is off to a surprisingly strong start for me. If only things could stay shaken up like this permanently...
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 6, 2018 5:24:03 GMT 10
Sorry, but upon a closer listen, “Finesse (Remix)” just doesn’t sit comfortably with me. Bruno’s bridge late in the song is blatantly heteronormative, which, for a pop song in 2018, when the LGBTQ community lives more openly than ever, just feels so wrong. I appreciate bringing back early 90s new jack swing, but why also revive such an early 90s understanding of queer visibility? Truth be told, it’s been several years since there was last a big hit song that presumptuously spoke on behalf of everybody’s sexuality, and with good reason - the social landscape has changed dramatically since then. That subtle exclusionary gesture has flat-out ruined the song for me and I doubt I’ll be able to get over it unless I come across some sort of excellent explanation for it.
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