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Post by astropoug on Mar 14, 2022 11:22:51 GMT 10
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Post by Telso on Mar 14, 2022 11:30:53 GMT 10
Not to mention that, from an aesthetic perspective, it was quite gritty, especially since the whole era was largely a backlash against seemingly shallow pop culture from the late 90s and Y2K era. Just look at movies like Batman Begins from this time period. It's not that simple though. The late 90s/Y2K era also had nu metal, rap rock, the Millenium bug fear mongering, post-grunge, Marilyn Manson-type industrial rock and pretty hard styles of rave like The Prodigy. I actually think this era could be way more dark and gritty than the mid-2000s' at its grittiest. Most of the "backlash" towards it, was mostly targeted at the futuristic, metallic fonts and the juvenile nature of teen pop. But otherwise the pop culture at large was still pretty silly and airheaded, just more laid back comparetively to the electropop era.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Mar 14, 2022 11:45:02 GMT 10
Lol, the entire 2000s was pretty far from gritty tbh.
Imo, the 1970s - mid 1990s looks gritty to me. The 1980s were actually a lot more gritty than the media makes it out to be.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 14, 2022 13:23:03 GMT 10
Lol, the entire 2000s was pretty far from gritty tbh. Imo, the 1970s - mid 1990s looks gritty to me. The 1980s were actually a lot more gritty than the media makes it out to be. Agree on the mid 90s being gritty. Grunge and gangsta rap, Mortal Kombat, Doom. Graffiti aesthetics, etc.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 14, 2022 14:09:05 GMT 10
Not to mention that, from an aesthetic perspective, it was quite gritty, especially since the whole era was largely a backlash against seemingly shallow pop culture from the late 90s and Y2K era. Just look at movies like Batman Begins from this time period. It's not that simple though. The late 90s/Y2K era also had nu metal, rap rock, the Millenium bug fear mongering, post-grunge, Marilyn Manson-type industrial rock and pretty hard styles of rave like The Prodigy. I actually think this era could be way more dark and gritty than the mid-2000s' at its grittiest. Most of the "backlash" towards it, was mostly targeted at the futuristic, metallic fonts and the juvenile nature of teen pop. But otherwise the pop culture at large was still pretty silly and airheaded, just more laid back comparetively to the electropop era. There was a backlash towards Y2K futurism in general in the 2000s. I think this played a role in why the 2000s were not a particularly futuristic decade in terms of the vibe. Sci-fi did terribly this decade, and aesthetics were based instead on either looking back toward the past or contemporary mundane reality. Likewise, the teen pop backlash was inevitable as people aged out of it, and wanted something edgier, deeper, more introspective. So you got everything from angsty emo, nu metal, and post-grunge, to hipster indie and mellow Coldplay-style pop rock. We did see a revival of teen pop and shiny aesthetics in general in the late 2000s and early 2010s (electropop/Frutiger Aero), that I would say was mostly a backlash against core 2000s culture. Think about scene culture, they were an offshoot of emo culture that was a backlash against the constant angst and perceived whininess of emo culture.
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