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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 9:14:24 GMT 10
In my experience, there is an entire separate era that is essentially like the Y2K era, but instead of being between the 90s and 00s, it's between the 00s and 10s. But what really defined it? Here are my observations:
-Electropop
-Old-school YouTube
-Early smartphones, often with keyboards
-Flash game sites like Armor Games and Cool Math
-7th gen game consoles
-Related to the former, motion controls (Wii, Kinect)
-Call of Duty's prime, and other gritty FPS games like it
-iCarly
-Johnny Test
-Scene kids
-Crunkcore, one of the worst music genres of all time (BOTDF, Brokencyde)
-Frutiger Aero aesthetics (the aesthetic of Windows Vista and 7)
-Total Drama
-Live-action Cartoon Network
-FRED and Annoying Orange
-Phineas and Ferb
-Early Netflix (before they started making original series)
-Blu-Ray Discs (rather than DVDs like the core 2000s, or streaming like the core 2010s)
This era followed the core 2000s This era would be followed up by the core and mid 2010s, which was starting in 2012 (Windows 8, Gravity Falls, Wii U), but really got started in 2013, and, well, the mid 2010s ended in 2017, and the core 2010s ended in arguably 2018.
Any other observations about this era? Do you agree with the timeline?
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 18, 2022 9:35:07 GMT 10
i dont think 2007-2008 should be lumped in with the early 10s. Completely different worlds. Even 2009 feels extremely different to late 2010 onwards.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 9:42:23 GMT 10
i dont think 2007-2008 should be lumped in with the early 10s. Completely different worlds. Well a lot of these trends started in 2007 or 2008, so that's where the grouping comes from. 2007 did have a core 2000s vibe, but also a lot different from say, 2004 or 2005. Windows Vista, iPhone (even if not popular, lots of people WERE talking about it), YouTube was way more popular, live-action Cartoon Network, etc.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 18, 2022 9:45:53 GMT 10
i dont think 2007-2008 should be lumped in with the early 10s. Completely different worlds. Well a lot of these trends started in 2007 or 2008, so that's where the grouping comes from. 2007 did have a core 2000s vibe, but also a lot different from say, 2004 or 2005. Windows Vista, iPhone (even if not popular, lots of people WERE talking about it), YouTube was way more popular, live-action Cartoon Network, etc. There were roots of 2010s culture that were starting to come into fruition behind the scenes but 00s culture was still completely dominant in 2007 and most of 2008. What matters is when that culture actually became the standard. Take iphone for example. Technically started being placed on shelves in 2007 and it even got a lot of advertising publicity but the first iphone sold only about 6 million units. It wasn't until 2010/2011 when they became the norm.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 9:58:29 GMT 10
Well a lot of these trends started in 2007 or 2008, so that's where the grouping comes from. 2007 did have a core 2000s vibe, but also a lot different from say, 2004 or 2005. Windows Vista, iPhone (even if not popular, lots of people WERE talking about it), YouTube was way more popular, live-action Cartoon Network, etc. There were roots of 2010s culture that were starting to come into fruition behind the scenes but 00s culture was still completely dominant in 2007 and most of 2008. What matters is when that culture actually became the standard. Take iphone for example. Technically started being placed on shelves in 2007 and it even got a lot of advertising publicity but the first iphone sold only about 6 million units. It wasn't until 2010/2011 when they became the norm. That might be true, but keep in mind we're talking about things that are neither core 2000s OR core 2010s. Core 2000s would be like flip phones, Windows XP, DVDs, classic iPods, McBling, etc. You definitely still had all these things being popular in 2007, and McBling in particular didn't truly die off until 2009, so you could say the core 2000s didn't truly end until 2009, but 2007-2008 is transitional between the two. IMO the pure core 2000s is from 2004 to 2006, when all of these things were popular, and all 90s/Y2K influences (VHS tapes, Windows 9x, Discman) had died off. 2003 is more of a core 2000s year than Y2K, and 2007 is more of a core 2000s year than GFC, but there's still undeniable influence.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 9:59:28 GMT 10
BlackBerry is a prime example of a GFC-era thing. It wasn't particularly popular during the core 2000s, and was dead by the core 2010s. Yet, from 2008 to 2010, it was the coolest phone out there.
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Post by 10slover on Mar 18, 2022 10:34:55 GMT 10
It was still around in 2013 and it was replaced by the vine era of the 2010s
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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 11:23:30 GMT 10
It was still around in 2013 and it was replaced by the vine era of the 2010s 2013 was definitely transitional. Smosh (a GFC era YouTuber) was the most subscribed YouTuber for most of the year, and PewDiePie took over at the end of 2013.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 18, 2022 11:31:13 GMT 10
In my experience, there is an entire separate era that is essentially like the Y2K era, but instead of being between the 90s and 00s, it's between the 00s and 10s. But what really defined it? Here are my observations: -Electropop -Old-school YouTube -Early smartphones, often with keyboards -Flash game sites like Armor Games and Cool Math -7th gen game consoles -Related to the former, motion controls (Wii, Kinect) -Call of Duty's prime, and other gritty FPS games like it -iCarly -Johnny Test -Scene kids -Crunkcore, one of the worst music genres of all time (BOTDF, Brokencyde) -Frutiger Aero aesthetics (the aesthetic of Windows Vista and 7) -Total Drama -Live-action Cartoon Network -FRED and Annoying Orange -Phineas and Ferb -Early Netflix (before they started making original series) -Blu-Ray Discs (rather than DVDs like the core 2000s, or streaming like the core 2010s) This era followed the core 2000s This era would be followed up by the core and mid 2010s, which was starting in 2012 (Windows 8, Gravity Falls, Wii U), but really got started in 2013, and, well, the mid 2010s ended in 2017, and the core 2010s ended in arguably 2018. Any other observations about this era? Do you agree with the timeline? I would move that 2007 to 2008 or 2009 tbh, Scene didn't last past 2009 in most major markets what does GFC stand for btw
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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 12:16:16 GMT 10
In my experience, there is an entire separate era that is essentially like the Y2K era, but instead of being between the 90s and 00s, it's between the 00s and 10s. But what really defined it? Here are my observations: -Electropop -Old-school YouTube -Early smartphones, often with keyboards -Flash game sites like Armor Games and Cool Math -7th gen game consoles -Related to the former, motion controls (Wii, Kinect) -Call of Duty's prime, and other gritty FPS games like it -iCarly -Johnny Test -Scene kids -Crunkcore, one of the worst music genres of all time (BOTDF, Brokencyde) -Frutiger Aero aesthetics (the aesthetic of Windows Vista and 7) -Total Drama -Live-action Cartoon Network -FRED and Annoying Orange -Phineas and Ferb -Early Netflix (before they started making original series) -Blu-Ray Discs (rather than DVDs like the core 2000s, or streaming like the core 2010s) This era followed the core 2000s This era would be followed up by the core and mid 2010s, which was starting in 2012 (Windows 8, Gravity Falls, Wii U), but really got started in 2013, and, well, the mid 2010s ended in 2017, and the core 2010s ended in arguably 2018. Any other observations about this era? Do you agree with the timeline? I would move that 2007 to 2008 or 2009 tbh, Scene didn't last past 2009 in most major markets what does GFC stand for btw Global Financial Crisis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Financial_Crisis
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Post by astropoug on Mar 18, 2022 12:17:49 GMT 10
You did still have scene influences in 2010/2011. Sonic Colors from 2010 had Cash Cash doing the theme for the game.
It really began to decline in 2012 when hipster culture rose in popularity.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 18, 2022 13:23:41 GMT 10
You did still have scene influences in 2010/2011. Sonic Colors from 2010 had Cash Cash doing the theme for the game. It really began to decline in 2012 when hipster culture rose in popularity. Hipster rose in popularity from 2008 up, it became a super mainstream thing around 2011/early 2012. Scene was dead by Fall 2009 in most markets such as New York, California etc, When Myspace died Scene went with it. The Mid western states ( which are slow to get new trends) was slow to get rid of it, but it was not indicative of the culture at the time. When I started getting a full time job @e! News in 2009 I did trend reports and one of them was decline of Scene at the time. Many scene bands broke up in 2009 as well. Wikipedia's Scene entry is very inaccurate, no one was dressing scene in 2011 or 2012 in California or even New Jersey. Yes there was Tumblr but Scene was super niche and not like it was from 2006 to 2009. I worked for literally E! televison network, I had to do reports about this stuff at the time & one of the biggest topics was MJ's death, Swine Flu and the death of Scene. I also had to do a report about the rise Hipster as well at the time.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 18, 2022 13:44:01 GMT 10
Kind of blurs with the Dark and Digital era of Fall 06 to December 2007
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