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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 7, 2022 10:33:31 GMT 10
Which didn't fit truly in with either the 00s or the 10s. Or conversely you could say it was a mix of both eras. Flip phones were pretty much dead but touchscreen smartphones such as Iphones and Galaxies hadn't taken off yet for example. Windows 7 was out but hadn't replaced XP yet. Etc.
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Post by y2kbaby on Apr 7, 2022 11:30:51 GMT 10
I agree. I like to call this specific micro-era the “ElectroParty” Era. Pop Culture aesthetically was very fun and energetic. It was a escapism to the Great Recession. I will say this era started in Late October/November 2009 when songs like “Bad Romance” and “Tik Tok” got really big on the radio, Jersey Shore was the new "IT" show and Avatar being the movie event of 09. It ended around March or April 2011. Before Osama Bin Laden was captured and killed and Game of Thrones premiered. Love this era so much 
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 7, 2022 11:40:56 GMT 10
I agree. I like to call this specific micro-era the “ElectroParty” Era. Pop Culture aesthetically was very fun and energetic. It was a escapism to the Great Recession. I will say the era started in Late October/November 2009 when songs like “Bad Romance” and “Tik Tok” got really popular. And it ended around April 2011. Before Osama Bin Laden was captured and killed. Love this era so much. If I had to call it something I would say the slider phone era since electropop continued until late 2013/NYD 2014
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Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 7, 2022 13:49:12 GMT 10
I 100% agree. Fall 2009 to Spring 2011 is an era that truly didn't fit either decade. The 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 school years. The most electropop ever (2011-2012 was too but 2010-2011 was peak electropop, and I feel like 2009-2010 felt more unapologetically electropop than 2011-2012 as that school year started to stray away from that musical trend a little bit, which is why I cringe when people say electropop was totally early 2010s when it was both late 2000s and early 2010s, and I'd even debate that it was more relevant in the late 00's, 2009-2010 specifically, over an early 2010s year like 2012 or 2013). The summer of 2011 is in question too but I could see that era just being the start of the 2010s, vice-versa for the summer of 2009, which I still felt was still pretty "2000s". Fall 2009 when I entered second grade was when I really noticed a shift. Fall 2011 is definitely classic 10's. Post-Bin Laden, smartphones were really noticeable by this point (but not where half or most people had it yet), mobile app games were at its peak (stuff like Temple Run, Angry Bird, Fruit Ninja, etc.), shows that would define the 2010s started around this time like Game of Thrones. Also, this was when you could notice the 2010s having its own true distinguishable sound from the 2000s. Like, compare to One Direction to the Jonas Brothers. The former sounds distinguishably 2010s while the latter is still obviously 2000s. I think things such as the Nickelodeon rebrand, debut of Justin Bieber, launch of Windows 7, rock truly dying out, beginning of shows like Modern Family, Big Time Rush (although that debatably could be a transitional show as well since it ended in mid 2013), etc., end of the Great Recession are all things that could contribute to the 2010's truly starting (Obama being a president isn't a good enough reason for the first half of 2009 being 10's or even truly transitional as culture was still obviously 2000's. Sorry), while the end of Hannah Montana, Myspace being totally irrelevant, smartphones starting to be noticeably ubiquitous, artists like Ludacris and Timbaland being phased out, hip hop going under an overhaul, etc. could all be things that show a sign of the end of the 00's.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 7, 2022 13:57:19 GMT 10
I agree. I like to call this specific micro-era the “ElectroParty” Era. Pop Culture aesthetically was very fun and energetic. It was a escapism to the Great Recession. I will say this era started in Late October/November 2009 when songs like “Bad Romance” and “Tik Tok” got really big on the radio, Jersey Shore was the new "IT" show and Avatar being the movie event of 09. It ended around March or April 2011. Before Osama Bin Laden was captured and killed and Game of Thrones premiered. Love this era so much Yeah Fall 2009 to Winter 2011 is probably the best marker for this mini-era. I love this era too. Most nostalgic part of my childhood lol. I was 7-8 during this time. 2nd and 3rd grade. 2010 was a whole year of its own. Doesn't belong neatly into either decade. So drastically different in so many ways.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 7, 2022 14:02:30 GMT 10
I 100% agree. Fall 2009 to Spring 2011 is an era that truly didn't fit either decade. The 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 school years. The most electropop ever (2011-2012 was too but 2010-2011 was peak electropop, and I feel like 2009-2010 felt more unapologetically electropop than 2011-2012 as that school year started to stray away from that musical trend a little bit, which is why I cringe when people say electropop was totally early 2010s when it was both late 2000s and early 2010s, and I'd even debate that it was more relevant in the late 00's, 2009-2010 specifically, over an early 2010s year like 2012 or 2013). The summer of 2011 is in question too but I could see that era just being the start of the 2010s, vice-versa for the summer of 2009, which I still felt was still pretty "2000s". Fall 2009 when I entered second grade was when I really noticed a shift. Fall 2011 is definitely classic 10's. Post-Bin Laden, smartphones were really noticeable by this point (but not where half or most people had it yet), mobile app games were at its peak (stuff like Temple Run, Angry Bird, Fruit Ninja, etc.), shows that would define the 2010s started around this time like Game of Thrones. Also, this was when you could notice the 2010s having its own true distinguishable sound from the 2000s. Like, compare to One Direction to the Jonas Brothers. The former sounds distinguishably 2010s while the latter is still obviously 2000s. I think things such as the debut of Justin Bieber, launch of Windows 7, rock truly dying out, beginning of shows like Modern Family, Big Time Rush (although that debatably could be a transitional show as well since it ended in mid 2013), etc., end of the Great Recession are all things that could contribute to the 2010's truly starting (Obama being a president isn't a good enough reason for the first half of 2009 being 10's or even truly transitional as culture was still obviously 2000's. Sorry), while the end of Hannah Montana, Myspace being totally irrelevant, smartphones starting to be noticeably ubiquitous, artists like Ludacris and Timbaland being phased out, hip hop going under a rebrand, etc. could all be things that show a sign of the end of the 00's. I agree with some things here but electropop was definitely way more early 10s than late 00s. It was only popular in the 00s for several months whereas it was big in the early 10s for almost half the decade.
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Post by mc98 on Apr 7, 2022 14:02:54 GMT 10
This era reminds of Blackberries and slider phones lol. I think around late spring/beginning of summer 2011, it's almost impossible to confuse it with the 2000s when many 2010s things were established by that point.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 7, 2022 14:03:27 GMT 10
Late 2000s: example = Nickelodeon Commercials November 2008
2000s/2010s transitional period: example = Cartoon Network Commercials - March 26, 2010
Early 2010s: example = Disney Channel commercials from June 13, 2012 (part 1)
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Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 7, 2022 14:07:24 GMT 10
I 100% agree. Fall 2009 to Spring 2011 is an era that truly didn't fit either decade. The 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 school years. The most electropop ever (2011-2012 was too but 2010-2011 was peak electropop, and I feel like 2009-2010 felt more unapologetically electropop than 2011-2012 as that school year started to stray away from that musical trend a little bit, which is why I cringe when people say electropop was totally early 2010s when it was both late 2000s and early 2010s, and I'd even debate that it was more relevant in the late 00's, 2009-2010 specifically, over an early 2010s year like 2012 or 2013). The summer of 2011 is in question too but I could see that era just being the start of the 2010s, vice-versa for the summer of 2009, which I still felt was still pretty "2000s". Fall 2009 when I entered second grade was when I really noticed a shift. Fall 2011 is definitely classic 10's. Post-Bin Laden, smartphones were really noticeable by this point (but not where half or most people had it yet), mobile app games were at its peak (stuff like Temple Run, Angry Bird, Fruit Ninja, etc.), shows that would define the 2010s started around this time like Game of Thrones. Also, this was when you could notice the 2010s having its own true distinguishable sound from the 2000s. Like, compare to One Direction to the Jonas Brothers. The former sounds distinguishably 2010s while the latter is still obviously 2000s. I think things such as the debut of Justin Bieber, launch of Windows 7, rock truly dying out, beginning of shows like Modern Family, Big Time Rush (although that debatably could be a transitional show as well since it ended in mid 2013), etc., end of the Great Recession are all things that could contribute to the 2010's truly starting (Obama being a president isn't a good enough reason for the first half of 2009 being 10's or even truly transitional as culture was still obviously 2000's. Sorry), while the end of Hannah Montana, Myspace being totally irrelevant, smartphones starting to be noticeably ubiquitous, artists like Ludacris and Timbaland being phased out, hip hop going under a rebrand, etc. could all be things that show a sign of the end of the 00's. I agree with some things here but electropop was definitely way more early 10s than late 00s. It was only popular in the 00s for several months whereas it was big in the early 10s for almost half the decade. I consider the electropop era in its entirety to span from Fall 2008 to Spring 2013 (debatably Fall 2007 to Summer 2014, but that's a huge stretch), so it was in the 00s for a while (especially since I consider 2010 to be part of the 2000s, being 2001-2010, although I see the 2000s = the 201st decade, so take that for what you will), but yes, the era would still go into the 2010s farther than 2000s, especially if you start that period in 2009 instead.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 7, 2022 14:07:55 GMT 10
This era reminds of Blackberries and slider phones lol. I think around late spring/beginning of summer 2011, it's almost impossible to confuse it with the 2000s when many 2010s things were established by that point. Summer 2011 was when it started feeling in your face 10s. When the lazy song by bruno mars got popular and iphones became common it felt like the 10s had truly began.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 7, 2022 14:12:38 GMT 10
I agree with some things here but electropop was definitely way more early 10s than late 00s. It was only popular in the 00s for several months whereas it was big in the early 10s for almost half the decade. I consider the electropop era in its entirety to span from Fall 2008 to Spring 2013 (debatably Fall 2007 to Summer 2014, but that's a huge stretch), so it was in the 00s for a while (especially since I consider 2010 to be part of the 2000s, being 2001-2010, although I see the 2000s = the 201st decade, so take that for what you will), but yes, the era would still go into the 2010s farther than 2000s, especially if you start that period in 2009 instead. I strongly disagree with the common fall 2008 - spring 2013 range. There's no way 2008 and 2013 can be considered part of the same era let alone 2009 - 2012. It didn't feel remotely like the 10s until summer 2009 and the 00s was basically dead in 2011 although it still had a few strong lingering holdovers that didn't die off until NYD 2014.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 7, 2022 14:12:41 GMT 10
This era reminds of Blackberries and slider phones lol. I think around late spring/beginning of summer 2011, it's almost impossible to confuse it with the 2000s when many 2010s things were established by that point. Summer 2011 was when it started feeling in your face 10s. When the lazy song by bruno mars got popular and iphones became common it felt like the 10s had truly began. That Lazy song by Bruno Mars was EVERYWHERE in the summer of 2011. I couldn't go somewhere without hearing that song on the radio lol. It for some reason felt transitional to me, but the summer of 2011 did feel pretty 10's. That summer felt a bit different from summer 2010 in the fact that it was just more unapologetically 10's than the previous year.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 7, 2022 14:12:48 GMT 10
I 100% agree. Fall 2009 to Spring 2011 is an era that truly didn't fit either decade. The 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 school years. The most electropop ever (2011-2012 was too but 2010-2011 was peak electropop, and I feel like 2009-2010 felt more unapologetically electropop than 2011-2012 as that school year started to stray away from that musical trend a little bit, which is why I cringe when people say electropop was totally early 2010s when it was both late 2000s and early 2010s, and I'd even debate that it was more relevant in the late 00's, 2009-2010 specifically, over an early 2010s year like 2012 or 2013). The summer of 2011 is in question too but I could see that era just being the start of the 2010s, vice-versa for the summer of 2009, which I still felt was still pretty "2000s". Fall 2009 when I entered second grade was when I really noticed a shift. Fall 2011 is definitely classic 10's. Post-Bin Laden, smartphones were really noticeable by this point (but not where half or most people had it yet), mobile app games were at its peak (stuff like Temple Run, Angry Bird, Fruit Ninja, etc.), shows that would define the 2010s started around this time like Game of Thrones. Also, this was when you could notice the 2010s having its own true distinguishable sound from the 2000s. Like, compare to One Direction to the Jonas Brothers. The former sounds distinguishably 2010s while the latter is still obviously 2000s. I think things such as the debut of Justin Bieber, launch of Windows 7, rock truly dying out, beginning of shows like Modern Family, Big Time Rush (although that debatably could be a transitional show as well since it ended in mid 2013), etc., end of the Great Recession are all things that could contribute to the 2010's truly starting (Obama being a president isn't a good enough reason for the first half of 2009 being 10's or even truly transitional as culture was still obviously 2000's. Sorry), while the end of Hannah Montana, Myspace being totally irrelevant, smartphones starting to be noticeably ubiquitous, artists like Ludacris and Timbaland being phased out, hip hop going under a rebrand, etc. could all be things that show a sign of the end of the 00's. I agree with some things here but electropop was definitely way more early 10s than late 00s. It was only popular in the 00s for several months whereas it was big in the early 10s for almost half the decade.
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Post by mc98 on Apr 7, 2022 14:15:43 GMT 10
I agree with some things here but electropop was definitely way more early 10s than late 00s. It was only popular in the 00s for several months whereas it was big in the early 10s for almost half the decade.
Circus is not electropop. It is a Timbaland-inspired track. Womanizer would've been a better choice.
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Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 7, 2022 14:16:35 GMT 10
I consider the electropop era in its entirety to span from Fall 2008 to Spring 2013 (debatably Fall 2007 to Summer 2014, but that's a huge stretch), so it was in the 00s for a while (especially since I consider 2010 to be part of the 2000s, being 2001-2010, although I see the 2000s = the 201st decade, so take that for what you will), but yes, the era would still go into the 2010s farther than 2000s, especially if you start that period in 2009 instead. I strongly disagree with the common fall 2008 - spring 2013 range. There's no way 2008 and 2013 can be considered part of the same era let alone 2009 - 2012. It didn't feel remotely like the 10s until summer 2009 and the 00s was basically dead in 2011 although it still had a few strong lingering holdovers that didn't die off until 2013. I disagree with this take overall as I pretty much see the electropop era as a whole just like the millennium era (which I span from like 1997/8-2003/4 at the widest), but I do agree that the transitional 50/50 period is no way 2008 or 2013, let alone 2012. And yes, I do think it's really a stretch to group 2008 in the same exact period as 2013 and even 2009 with 2012 besides Obama 1st term. 2011 was the final nail in the coffin of the 00's somewhere in that year, although since it does make to say the second half of safely 10's at that point, specifically the first half. 2010 was the last year that could truly be a potential 00's year culturally, at least from start to finish. Regardless of what I think about the span of the era, I definitely like this take.
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