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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 19, 2017 23:32:08 GMT 10
The Mid 2000s and Mid 2010s are often criticised for the music which charted during the two retrospective eras. Which era, however, do you believe was better for music and why?
As much as I generally dislike both eras, I would personally consider the Mid 2000s to be the better era for music. One of the main reasons why I dislike the Mid 2010s, is due to the lack of diversity on the Top-40 charts. While the Mid 2000s may have had "ringtone rap" and low-brow pop music, it had a much bigger diversity of music. Rock was still a dominant genre of music at the time and as it is my favourite genre of music, it does give the Mid 2000s a slight advantage. There were also quite a few good songs being released by UK and Australian artists at the time as well.
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Post by rainbow on Dec 20, 2017 0:17:10 GMT 10
The mid 2010’s. I personally think it had better and catchier hip-hop than the mid-2000’s.
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Post by unicornic on Dec 20, 2017 2:08:10 GMT 10
The mid 2010’s. The mid ‘00s were a crap time for music. I’d take 2015 over 2005 easily.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 20, 2017 3:06:44 GMT 10
Ummm, Mid 2010s for sure. Mid 2000s music is trash for the most part.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 20, 2017 9:23:02 GMT 10
The Mid 2000s were really low-brow.  Pretty much every pop song had sexual undertones to them, such as "Milkshake" and "My Humps".
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Post by longaotian on Dec 20, 2017 10:04:25 GMT 10
The Mid 2000s were really low-brow. Pretty much every pop song had sexual undertones to them, such as "Milkshake" and "My Humps". Exactly. That's why I prefer the mid 2010s.
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Dec 20, 2017 10:06:55 GMT 10
I'm with everyone else on this one. The mid '10s are far better culturally and technologically.
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Post by #Infinity on Dec 20, 2017 10:15:28 GMT 10
Only about half of the mid-2000s was truly terrible for music, and even then, that stretch of crap was only confined to the United States. 2004 was a mostly good year for pop, albeit not as strong as 2000-2002, imo.
In the UK and other parts of Europe, the mid-2000s were great for music. Not only did they not import any of the reprehensible ringtones rap from the American South aside from "Crank That (Soulja Boy)," but their charts were absolutely bustling with diversity, including indie rockers crossing over into the pop charts, dance/electronica integrating smart disco influences, and a ton of classic soul influences across all genres. The mid-2000s were, of course, Rachel Stevens' time in the spotlights as an accomplished solo performer, but she's really only part of why the mid-2000s were a far better time for music than I initially remembered. Even with the occasional international success that still sucked, like "My Humps" and "Wind It Up," the mid-2000s were a largely rich and sophisticated period for music if you looked beyond just the bare basics.
The mid-2010s don't even come close to matching up to the mid-2000s in overall quality. The only exception would be the 2013-2014 school year versus the 2005-2006 school year, particularly in the United States. Aside from that, almost every mid-2010s song either used a stock pop song chords progression, had narcissistically vapid lyrics, contained ugly trap-infused production, or was plagued by all three. Unlike the mid-2000s, when there was clearly something for listeners of any kind, the mid-2010s basically screwed over anybody not obsessed with by-the-numbers EDM and trap music.
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Post by grace on Dec 20, 2017 10:30:46 GMT 10
Mid 2010s! :-)
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 20, 2017 10:33:23 GMT 10
Only about half of the mid-2000s was truly terrible for music, and even then, that stretch of crap was only confined to the United States. 2004 was a mostly good year for pop, albeit not as strong as 2000-2002, imo. In the UK and other parts of Europe, the mid-2000s were great for music. Not only did they not import any of the reprehensible ringtones rap from the American South aside from "Crank That (Soulja Boy)," but their charts were absolutely bustling with diversity, including indie rockers crossing over into the pop charts, dance/electronica integrating smart disco influences, and a ton of classic soul influences across all genres. The mid-2000s were, of course, Rachel Stevens' time in the spotlights as an accomplished solo performer, but she's really only part of why the mid-2000s were a far better time for music than I initially remembered. Even with the occasional international success that still sucked, like "My Humps" and "Wind It Up," the mid-2000s were a largely rich and sophisticated period for music if you looked beyond just the bare basics. The mid-2010s don't even come close to matching up to the mid-2000s in overall quality. The only exception would be the 2013-2014 school year versus the 2005-2006 school year, particularly in the United States. Aside from that, almost every mid-2010s song either used a stock pop song chords progression, had narcissistically vapid lyrics, contained ugly trap-infused production, or was plagued by all three. Unlike the mid-2000s, when there was clearly something for listeners of any kind, the mid-2010s basically screwed over anybody not obsessed with by-the-numbers EDM and trap music. I agree with the points you raised, although i'm not particularly fond of 2004 for music either. Apart from the greater diversity in music, another reason why I slightly prefer the Mid 2000s over the Mid 2010s, is mainly due to the overall production of the compositions which were released during that time. Most of the songs which were released in the Mid 2000s sound more "organic" (to use the term loosely) and not pure record-label inventions. I personally find a lot of the current EDM and trap releases to sound really "lifeless" and manufactured; the vocals are unmistakably auto-tuned and polished to a large degree. To me, the Mid 2010s didn't seem to be a natural progression in music. The reason why EDM and trap saturate the charts to the extent that they do, is because they are easy to produce and are a quick way to increase profits. The Mid 2000s may have had "snap rap" and the ilk, however I believe that's how music naturally progressed, especially when you take into account the circumstances which led to that point.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 20, 2017 11:52:19 GMT 10
2004 is one of my least favourite years for music, along with 2008
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 20, 2017 12:10:47 GMT 10
2004 is one of my least favourite years for music, along with 2008 I don't mind a few songs from 2004 and 2008, but other than that, I completely agree with you. 2006 was probably the worst year for music in the 2000s, IMO.
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Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Dec 21, 2017 14:55:09 GMT 10
It seems that most people here voting mid 10s were still in their toddler or preschool years during the mid 00s and probably don't remember much outside of pop music from that epoch, not to sound patronizing or anything, but I do think their judgement of the epoch is perhaps clouded.
I'll agree that a lot of the pop music from the mid 00s epoch was garbage, but then again, pop music in general is usually the worst aspect of pretty much every epoch, with major exception being Michael Jackson.
When it comes to music as a whole, Mid 00s is far better, it's not even a contest. Rock music was still mainstream in the Mid 00s, it was all underground in the Mid 10s. Also, the Mid 00s had a much stronger cultural identity within it's music. Say what you will about emo, but at least it made the 00s unique.
Here are some great rock songs from the Mid 00s.
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Post by rainbow on Dec 21, 2017 22:30:36 GMT 10
It seems that most people here voting mid 10s were still in their toddler or preschool years during the mid 00s and probably don't remember much outside of pop music from that epoch, not to sound patronizing or anything, but I do think their judgement of the epoch is perhaps clouded. I personally don’t agree with this. If you’re a trap rap fan like me, then I could see why one would choose the mid 2010’s over mid 2000’s. I remember what songs were popular around my area in 2006 despite being only four. I also remember what songs were popular in 2016. I would honestly choose 2016 over 2006 in a heart beat. I’m also not really a fan of rock, and prefer hip-hop and trap. That’s just me though.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 21, 2017 22:34:39 GMT 10
It seems that most people here voting mid 10s were still in their toddler or preschool years during the mid 00s and probably don't remember much outside of pop music from that epoch, not to sound patronizing or anything, but I do think their judgement of the epoch is perhaps clouded. I personally don’t agree with this. If you’re a trap rap fan like me, then I could see why one would choose the mid 2010’s over mid 2000’s. I remember what songs were popular around my area in 2006 despite being only four. I also remember what songs were popular in 2016. I would honestly choose 2016 over 2006 in a heart beat. I’m also not really a fan of rock, and prefer hip-hop and trap. That’s just me though. Completely agree
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Pretty much every pop song had sexual undertones to them, such as "Milkshake" and "My Humps". 
