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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 27, 2017 13:30:25 GMT 10
Many people regard 2009 as being the first outright cultural year of the 2010s. While electropop may have been in full-force and the movie Avatar was released at the end of the year, for the most part, I would personally consider 2009 to be a 2000s cultural year. I remember Early-Mid 2009 still felt distinctively 2000s, despite the fact that several notable 2010s influences had either already emerged or were beginning to emerge. What do you think? Do you personally consider 2009 to be a 2010s cultural year?
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Post by rainbow on Dec 27, 2017 13:35:39 GMT 10
I personally think 2009 was the perfect mixture of 2000's and early 2010's culture. Electropop, Facebook, and Dubstep were very popular in 2009 which made it have some early 2010's influences, but people were also still using digital cameras, the fashion was still 2000's, and the rock music sound of the 2000's was still there.
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Post by #Infinity on Dec 27, 2017 13:49:18 GMT 10
No, it's really not. Reasons why?
* 90% of the pop charts were still songs that blended in with the rest of the late 2000s. Stuff like "Tik Tok," "Bad Romance," and "Fire Burning" were stark exceptions, not the norm. Even "I Gotta Feeling" is merely sampled from, "Love Is Gone," a David Guetta song released in 2007. Rock songs like "My Life Would Suck without You," "Waking Up in Vegas," "Love Drunk," "Use Somebody," etc. were still a serious thing.
* 2010s fashion had virtually no identity yet. You had mostly the dying remnants of emo and scene, not Macklemore cuts or even really nu-males being widespread.
* Hardly anybody owned an iPhone yet. It was still Blackberrys and flip phones all the way. Most activities were done on computers, not portable devices.
* Cinema was still predominantly 2000s. Pixar was still in its golden age, the Harry Potter franchise was still ongoing, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was not yet a definite thing and no MCU films came out that year anyway, the live action fantasy reboot craze hadn't arrived yet, Disney had not yet exactly reached the meat of its Revival era (Bolt and The Princess and the Frog are cusp films between the post-Renaissance and Disney Revival), and Dreamworks was still the #1 competitor to Disney and Pixar, not Illumination Entertainment.
* Even with Obama as President of the United States, Congress hadn't yet been taken over by gridlock-happy Republicans. Also, Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister in the UK.
* The Wii was still one of the biggest toys in the world. New Super Mario Bros. Wii was an enormous financial success that year.
* Tablets hadn't yet come out.
* Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat weren't really mainstream yet.
* No Game of Thrones or Walking Dead on television. Instead, you still had series like The Office, Lost, and 24 wrapping up.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 27, 2017 14:16:49 GMT 10
No, it's really not. Reasons why? * 90% of the pop charts were still songs that blended in with the rest of the late 2000s. Stuff like "Tik Tok," "Bad Romance," and "Fire Burning" were stark exceptions, not the norm. Even "I Gotta Feeling" is merely sampled from, "Love Is Gone," a David Guetta song released in 2007. Rock songs like "My Life Would Suck without You," "Waking Up in Vegas," "Love Drunk," "Use Somebody," etc. were still a serious thing. * 2010s fashion had virtually no identity yet. You had mostly the dying remnants of emo and scene, not Macklemore cuts or even really nu-males being widespread. * Hardly anybody owned an iPhone yet. It was still Blackberrys and flip phones all the way. Most activities were done on computers, not portable devices. * Cinema was still predominantly 2000s. Pixar was still in its golden age, the Harry Potter franchise was still ongoing, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was not yet a definite thing and no MCU films came out that year anyway, the live action fantasy reboot craze hadn't arrived yet, Disney had not yet exactly reached the meat of its Revival era (Bolt and The Princess and the Frog are cusp films between the post-Renaissance and Disney Revival), and Dreamworks was still the #1 competitor to Disney and Pixar, not Illumination Entertainment. * Even with Obama as President of the United States, Congress hadn't yet been taken over by gridlock-happy Republicans. Also, Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister in the UK. * The Wii was still one of the biggest toys in the world. New Super Mario Bros. Wii was an enormous financial success that year. * Tablets hadn't yet come out. * Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat weren't really mainstream yet. * No Game of Thrones or Walking Dead on television. Instead, you still had series like The Office, Lost, and 24 wrapping up. I completely agree. I think the main reason why a lot of people tend to view 2009 as a 2010s cultural year, is because Barack Obama was in office. Had George W. Bush still been the President of the United States, I believe more people would perceive 2009 as a 2000s year.
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Post by X2M on Dec 27, 2017 15:18:14 GMT 10
I agree with everything you said. When it comes to these discussions, either none or most of these things are not mentioned at all. I wonder how do some people forget that the Wii was the most significant thing at that time, or that everyone owned a cell phone rather than an iPhone. Plus, most folks, used a digital camera to take pictures; they had iPods/MP3s to listen to music, and that they additionally still had broadband internet instead of wifi. Also, the Kardashian clan were not superstars yet despite already having their show by then. Paris Hilton and Tila Tequila were the main stars for fashion and reality TV. Furthermore, the primary OS for Windows was XP considering Microsoft didn't even release Windows 7 until late in the year; only the Wii had a had a remote (which was itself). Social media was still primarily used by high school and college students, and the standard game handhelds were the PSP and Nintendo DS. It's so mind-boggling how some people have forgotten all these things in the last eight years. 
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Post by longaotian on Dec 27, 2017 16:30:44 GMT 10
It was a balance of Late 2000s and Early 2010s culture
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 12:55:52 GMT 10
No, it's really not. Reasons why? * 90% of the pop charts were still songs that blended in with the rest of the late 2000s. Stuff like "Tik Tok," "Bad Romance," and "Fire Burning" were stark exceptions, not the norm. Even "I Gotta Feeling" is merely sampled from, "Love Is Gone," a David Guetta song released in 2007. Rock songs like "My Life Would Suck without You," "Waking Up in Vegas," "Love Drunk," "Use Somebody," etc. were still a serious thing. * 2010s fashion had virtually no identity yet. You had mostly the dying remnants of emo and scene, not Macklemore cuts or even really nu-males being widespread. * Hardly anybody owned an iPhone yet. It was still Blackberrys and flip phones all the way. Most activities were done on computers, not portable devices. * Cinema was still predominantly 2000s. Pixar was still in its golden age, the Harry Potter franchise was still ongoing, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was not yet a definite thing and no MCU films came out that year anyway, the live action fantasy reboot craze hadn't arrived yet, Disney had not yet exactly reached the meat of its Revival era (Bolt and The Princess and the Frog are cusp films between the post-Renaissance and Disney Revival), and Dreamworks was still the #1 competitor to Disney and Pixar, not Illumination Entertainment. * Even with Obama as President of the United States, Congress hadn't yet been taken over by gridlock-happy Republicans. Also, Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister in the UK. * The Wii was still one of the biggest toys in the world. New Super Mario Bros. Wii was an enormous financial success that year. * Tablets hadn't yet come out. * Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat weren't really mainstream yet. * No Game of Thrones or Walking Dead on television. Instead, you still had series like The Office, Lost, and 24 wrapping up. Snapchat and Instagram both didn't exist in 2009.
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Post by rainbow on Dec 28, 2017 13:02:33 GMT 10
No, it's really not. Reasons why? * 90% of the pop charts were still songs that blended in with the rest of the late 2000s. Stuff like "Tik Tok," "Bad Romance," and "Fire Burning" were stark exceptions, not the norm. Even "I Gotta Feeling" is merely sampled from, "Love Is Gone," a David Guetta song released in 2007. Rock songs like "My Life Would Suck without You," "Waking Up in Vegas," "Love Drunk," "Use Somebody," etc. were still a serious thing. * 2010s fashion had virtually no identity yet. You had mostly the dying remnants of emo and scene, not Macklemore cuts or even really nu-males being widespread. * Hardly anybody owned an iPhone yet. It was still Blackberrys and flip phones all the way. Most activities were done on computers, not portable devices. * Cinema was still predominantly 2000s. Pixar was still in its golden age, the Harry Potter franchise was still ongoing, the Marvel Cinematic Universe was not yet a definite thing and no MCU films came out that year anyway, the live action fantasy reboot craze hadn't arrived yet, Disney had not yet exactly reached the meat of its Revival era (Bolt and The Princess and the Frog are cusp films between the post-Renaissance and Disney Revival), and Dreamworks was still the #1 competitor to Disney and Pixar, not Illumination Entertainment. * Even with Obama as President of the United States, Congress hadn't yet been taken over by gridlock-happy Republicans. Also, Gordon Brown was still Prime Minister in the UK. * The Wii was still one of the biggest toys in the world. New Super Mario Bros. Wii was an enormous financial success that year. * Tablets hadn't yet come out. * Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat weren't really mainstream yet. * No Game of Thrones or Walking Dead on television. Instead, you still had series like The Office, Lost, and 24 wrapping up. Snapchat and Instagram both didn't exist in 2009. Exactly, that's why they weren't mainstream lol
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Post by unicornic on Dec 28, 2017 13:21:02 GMT 10
It was definitely 2000's for sure.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 28, 2017 16:25:52 GMT 10
Snapchat and Instagram both didn't exist in 2009. Exactly, that's why they weren't mainstream lol Yeah, but if you say they "weren't really mainstream yet", it implies that they were already released but just not popular yet lol 
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Post by rainbow on Dec 28, 2017 16:33:34 GMT 10
Exactly, that's why they weren't mainstream lol Yeah, but if you say they "weren't really mainstream yet", it implies that they were already released but just not popular yet lol :P Well, non-existent things can't be popular either now can they? ;)
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Post by longaotian on Dec 28, 2017 16:45:33 GMT 10
Yeah, but if you say they "weren't really mainstream yet", it implies that they were already released but just not popular yet lol Well, non-existent things can't be popular either now can they?  You clearly didn't read my post. End of discussion.
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Post by rainbow on Dec 28, 2017 16:46:50 GMT 10
Well, non-existent things can't be popular either now can they? You clearly didn't read my post. End of discussion. I did read your post. ;)
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Post by aja675 on Dec 28, 2017 16:49:33 GMT 10
Probs. At least the last few months, like, um, July or August and up?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 28, 2017 16:54:52 GMT 10
Probs. At least the last few months, like, um, July or August and up? I agree. I actually remember there being a change in vibe/atmosphere around October 2009.
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