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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 4, 2018 8:51:42 GMT 10
When do you think hip-hop overtook rock music as the most dominant genre in the mainstream? I believe hip-hop overtook rock music around 2002/2003, when Jay-Z and 50 Cent emerged onto the scene. Of course, rock remained popular for the rest of the decade, however it wasn't as dominant as it had been prior to 2002.
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Post by #Infinity on Jan 4, 2018 9:54:52 GMT 10
That's a bit of a tough point to debate because hip hop didn't exactly directly replace rock, seeing as other pop genres have coexisted alongside both styles of music. At the very least, I would say hip hop became roughly as popular as rock by 1993, when gangsta rap became a huge deal, and that it had fully surpassed rock by 2006, since 2005 was still dominated by blockbuster rock albums like American Idiot and Breakaway.
In the UK, I would probably say rock was still roughly comparable in relevance to hip hop through 2008, since bands like Arctic Monkeys, Kings of Leon, Stereophonics, and early comeback-era Take That kept pop rock highly successful on the pop charts throughout the mid-to-late 2000s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 4, 2018 10:37:39 GMT 10
That's a bit of a tough point to debate because hip hop didn't exactly directly replace rock, seeing as other pop genres have coexisted alongside both styles of music. At the very least, I would say hip hop became roughly as popular as rock by 1993, when gangsta rap became a huge deal, and that it had fully surpassed rock by 2006, since 2005 was still dominated by blockbuster rock albums like American Idiot and Breakaway. In the UK, I would probably say rock was still roughly comparable in relevance to hip hop through 2008, since bands like Arctic Monkeys, Kings of Leon, Stereophonics, and early comeback-era Take That kept pop rock highly successful on the pop charts throughout the mid-to-late 2000s. I tend to agree. The main reason as to why I pinpointed 2002/2003 as being the turning point for the popularity of hip-hop, is because rock began to gradually lose it's presence on the Billboard End-of-Years charts starting from around that period of time. Also, if i'm not mistaken, "How You Remind Me" was the last rock song to top the Billboard Hot 100 and it was on the charts in Late 2001/Early 2002. You're right though, American Idiot and Breakaway were massively successful when they were released. Hip-hop certainly didn't overtake rock music in popularity overnight. 2002-2005 could possibly be regarded as being the transition between the two, at least in the United States.
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Post by longaotian on Jan 5, 2018 5:53:22 GMT 10
I've just been looking at the NZ Top 40 charts for 2002 and Hip Hop is pretty absent. I would say at least in New Zealand, Hip Hop was more dominant in the 90s than the early 2000s
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 9:16:07 GMT 10
I've just been looking at the NZ Top 40 charts for 2002 and Hip Hop is pretty absent. I would say at least in New Zealand, Hip Hop was more dominant in the 90s than the early 2000s Yeah, I agree actually. I've been looking at the NZ Top-40 Charts as a result of playing this game and it's something I came across as well. It's interesting, because 1999 had a fair amount of hip-hop, but 2000-2002 have a much smaller presence.
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Post by rainbow on Jan 5, 2018 9:18:41 GMT 10
I honestly don't really know, to be honest, but one thing for sure is that you absolutely can't deny that hip-hop is more popular than rock on the billboards today. 
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 9:19:36 GMT 10
I honestly don't really know, to be honest, but one thing for sure is that you absolutely can't deny that hip-hop is more popular than rock on the billboards today. Haha, absolutely! It has been like that since about 2011.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 10:59:01 GMT 10
I remember at school, all the kids listened to pop punk in 2001/2002. In 2003 and 2004, people listened to both. By 2005 I think hip hop was clearly dominant, definitely by the time 2006 rolled around.
I think bchris said it best on inthe00s. In 2015, when some says "pop music" you think of EDM. In 2005, it was completely different, pop music was hip hop.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 11:05:16 GMT 10
I remember at school, all the kids listened to pop punk in 2001/2002. In 2003 and 2004, people listened to both. By 2005 I think hip hop was clearly dominant, definitely by the time 2006 rolled around. I think bchris said it best on inthe00s. In 2015, when some says "pop music" you think of EDM. In 2005, it was completely different, pop music was hip hop. That's a good point. Strangely enough, I don't remember hip-hop being all that popular during my time in primary school (2005-2011). Pop (Fergie, Lady Gaga etc.) and Rock were generally the two genres that most kids listened to/talked about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 16:38:51 GMT 10
I remember at school, all the kids listened to pop punk in 2001/2002. In 2003 and 2004, people listened to both. By 2005 I think hip hop was clearly dominant, definitely by the time 2006 rolled around. I think bchris said it best on inthe00s. In 2015, when some says "pop music" you think of EDM. In 2005, it was completely different, pop music was hip hop. That's a good point. Strangely enough, I don't remember hip-hop being all that popular during my time in primary school (2005-2011). Pop (Fergie, Lady Gaga etc.) and Rock were generally the two genres that most kids listened to/talked about. At my school, you were either a rock fan or a hip hop fan. It was a common question on MySpace quizzes – "rap or rock?" 
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 16:44:22 GMT 10
That's a good point. Strangely enough, I don't remember hip-hop being all that popular during my time in primary school (2005-2011). Pop (Fergie, Lady Gaga etc.) and Rock were generally the two genres that most kids listened to/talked about. At my school, you were either a rock fan or a hip hop fan. It was a common question on MySpace quizzes – "rap or rock?" That's interesting to hear. Were you a rock fan or a hip hop fan?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 17:30:24 GMT 10
At my school, you were either a rock fan or a hip hop fan. It was a common question on MySpace quizzes – "rap or rock?" That's interesting to hear. Were you a rock fan or a hip hop fan? Rock, personally, but I liked some hip hop too. There was a funny 2005 hip hop song called "Can't Spell Crap Without Rap", some people ironically had that as their ringtone
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2018 17:48:59 GMT 10
That's interesting to hear. Were you a rock fan or a hip hop fan? Rock, personally, but I liked some hip hop too. There was a funny 2005 hip hop song called "Can't Spell Crap Without Rap", some people ironically had that as their ringtone I can't say that I have listened to that song before. Is it Canadian? I might listen to it later on.
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