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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 18, 2018 19:57:21 GMT 10
I say 2010's but this is tainted by my personal perspective, largely due to it being my first full year of high school. However, I do still think there are some valid points to this perspective. Facebook was already the main way for teens to communicate and was available (although crudely) through mobile apps on the popular iPod touch and early 10's style texting phones. Obama was president and the tea party had begun its brief moment of popularity. The Twilight series peaked though retained popularity until the last film. Skinny jeans were fast replacing boot cut in popularity. Emo was slightly fading. Hipster glasses and oversized sweaters and thrifting were becoming things. This is not to deny the 00's influences that still lingered, however many aspects of the 10's were already alive and well Although I personally believe 2009 was a cultural 2000s year, I can definitely see why some people consider it to be a 2010s year, as it did have a few 2010s influences. I just find it hard to accept it as anything but a 2000s year, because there were several decade-defining characteristics which had either not emerged yet or were still in early development. For instance, Indie/Hipster culture had yet to emerge at the time and shows such as Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead were not on the air. Rock was also still a mainstream movement and as you suggested, the Emo scene was still prominent. It wasn't until Early 2011 that I truly felt as though we had entered a new cultural decade.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 18, 2018 19:59:47 GMT 10
2000s; 2009 set the tone for the early 2010s but that's about it. Everything that is defining for this decade appeared or became huge during the 2012-2015 period and I have a hard time to associate 2009 with any year past 2012. I agree.
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Post by al on Apr 19, 2018 6:40:49 GMT 10
Although I personally believe 2009 was a cultural 2000s year, I can definitely see why some people consider it to be a 2010s year, as it did have a few 2010s influences. I just find it hard to accept it as anything but a 2000s year, because there were several decade-defining characteristics which had either not emerged yet or were still in early development. For instance, Indie/Hipster culture had yet to emerge at the time and shows such as Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead were not on the air. Rock was also still a mainstream movement and as you suggested, the Emo scene was still prominent. It wasn't until Early 2011 that I truly felt as though we had entered a new cultural decade. It also comes down to organization. I mean, in regards to the current decade as a whole, the differences are obvious. However if we were to compare to the early 10's years, I think it would be fair to throw 2009 into that group. In my opinion it had quite a bit more in common with 2012 than it did with 2006. As far as when the 10's really got its current flavor, I would credit that to when smart phones truly became adopted in late 2011-early 2012. The few years prior to that did not necessarily feel like the core 00's years to me though, but rather a transitional time with less advanced versions of what we do now.
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Apr 20, 2018 6:28:07 GMT 10
I’d go with 2010s. Even though digital cameras and dumb phones were widely used, smartphones were replacing them rapidly. In terms of music, we had Drake, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and the Black Eyed Peas electro poppy songs which dominated the charts. In regards to fashion, 2009 would be a hybrid of the 2000s/2010s era. Hipsters and thick framed glasses were coming in, but the emo era wasn’t dead yet although it was wayyy past it’s peak.
Politically, 2009 was the year Obama became present, and the Great Recession was going on for half of 2009, which technically ended in June (I think?) but its effects appeared way into the early 2010s.
2009 was the year of Facebook and the premiere of Glee, Jersey Shore, 16 and Pregnant.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 8:40:41 GMT 10
I’d go with 2010s. Even though digital cameras and dumb phones were widely used, smartphones were replacing them rapidly. In terms of music, we had Drake, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and the Black Eyed Peas electro poppy songs which dominated the charts. In regards to fashion, 2009 would be a hybrid of the 2000s/2010s era. Hipsters and thick framed glasses were coming in, but the emo era wasn’t dead yet although it was wayyy past it’s peak. Politically, 2009 was the year Obama became present, and the Great Recession was going on for half of 2009, which technically ended in June (I think?) but its effects appeared way into the early 2010s. 2009 was the year of Facebook and the premiere of Glee, Jersey Shore, 16 and Pregnant. I watched that.
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Post by #Infinity on Apr 20, 2018 8:51:53 GMT 10
Just a warning, but threads like this are not encouraged for the future. I'm leaving this one open because SharksFan99 has gone along with it and it hasn't yet devolved into arbitrary, dogmatic absurdity, but should it reach that point or if several clones of this topic start flooding the Decade Den, expect some locking to kick in.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 20, 2018 9:17:19 GMT 10
Just a warning, but threads like this are not encouraged for the future. I'm leaving this one open because SharksFan99 has gone along with it and it hasn't yet devolved into arbitrary, dogmatic absurdity, but should it reach that point or if several clones of this topic start flooding the Decade Den, expect some locking to kick in. This is just my own personal opinion, but as long as the threads are focused on the pop culture itself and not on arbitrary cutoffs, I don't think they are too much of a concern. Although the title of this thread may indicate otherwise, the discussion in this thread has purely been based on the pop culture of 2009, rather than when 2000s culture truly ended. If it does turn into a topic based on boundaries, I agree that it should be locked. However, in it's current state, it's acceptable.
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Post by rainbow on Apr 20, 2018 9:42:07 GMT 10
I’d go with 2010s. Even though digital cameras and dumb phones were widely used, smartphones were replacing them rapidly. In terms of music, we had Drake, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and the Black Eyed Peas electro poppy songs which dominated the charts. In regards to fashion, 2009 would be a hybrid of the 2000s/2010s era. Hipsters and thick framed glasses were coming in, but the emo era wasn’t dead yet although it was wayyy past it’s peak. Politically, 2009 was the year Obama became present, and the Great Recession was going on for half of 2009, which technically ended in June (I think?) but its effects appeared way into the early 2010s. 2009 was the year of Facebook and the premiere of Glee, Jersey Shore, 16 and Pregnant. I don't know if I can agree with this. In 2009, a lot of the phones that people used were Blackberry phones. iPhones weren't really common in 2009 and they were a novelty. Also, this was around the time when the recession was at its worst. I also don't really agree with hipsters coming in in 2009. Maybe it was different where you live, but over here you would've been in the minority if you were to dress like a 2010's hipster. The fashion was still primarily emo/scene and hipsters didn't truly take off until sometime in 2012.
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Apr 20, 2018 11:59:25 GMT 10
I’d go with 2010s. Even though digital cameras and dumb phones were widely used, smartphones were replacing them rapidly. In terms of music, we had Drake, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and the Black Eyed Peas electro poppy songs which dominated the charts. In regards to fashion, 2009 would be a hybrid of the 2000s/2010s era. Hipsters and thick framed glasses were coming in, but the emo era wasn’t dead yet although it was wayyy past it’s peak. Politically, 2009 was the year Obama became present, and the Great Recession was going on for half of 2009, which technically ended in June (I think?) but its effects appeared way into the early 2010s. 2009 was the year of Facebook and the premiere of Glee, Jersey Shore, 16 and Pregnant. I don't know if I can agree with this. In 2009, a lot of the phones that people used were Blackberry phones. iPhones weren't really common in 2009 and they were a novelty. Also, this was around the time when the recession was at its worst. I also don't really agree with hipsters coming in in 2009. Maybe it was different where you live, but over here you would've been in the minority if you were to dress like a 2010's hipster. The fashion was still primarily emo/scene and hipsters didn't truly take off until sometime in 2012. Late 2009 was when smartphones started taking over. Sorry for not being specific. And oh, I forgot blackberries existed. Weren't they phones that had a mini keyboard? Based on my memory, hipsters started as early as 2008 but didn't take over yet until the early 2010s
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Post by rainbow on Apr 20, 2018 12:24:04 GMT 10
I don't know if I can agree with this. In 2009, a lot of the phones that people used were Blackberry phones. iPhones weren't really common in 2009 and they were a novelty. Also, this was around the time when the recession was at its worst. I also don't really agree with hipsters coming in in 2009. Maybe it was different where you live, but over here you would've been in the minority if you were to dress like a 2010's hipster. The fashion was still primarily emo/scene and hipsters didn't truly take off until sometime in 2012. Late 2009 was when smartphones started taking over. Sorry for not being specific. And oh, I forgot blackberries existed. Weren't they phones that had a mini keyboard? Based on my memory, hipsters started as early as 2008 but didn't take over yet until the early 2010s Yeah lmao. They were the slider phones too. I actually vividly remember seeing a person text with a blackberry phone back in 2010 when I was walking to Walmart. Also, where I'm at, I personally think hipsters got big right when Instagram got big. I would say 2012 was the year when hipsters started to become big IMO.
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Apr 22, 2018 4:49:11 GMT 10
Late 2009 was when smartphones started taking over. Sorry for not being specific. And oh, I forgot blackberries existed. Weren't they phones that had a mini keyboard? Based on my memory, hipsters started as early as 2008 but didn't take over yet until the early 2010s Yeah lmao. They were the slider phones too. I actually vividly remember seeing a person text with a blackberry phone back in 2010 when I was walking to Walmart. Also, where I'm at, I personally think hipsters got big right when Instagram got big. I would say 2012 was the year when hipsters started to become big IMO. I miss when phones were equipped with a keyboard where it felt like typing on a keyboard instead of a touch screen.
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Post by X2M on Apr 23, 2018 7:06:01 GMT 10
I find it weird how some people tend to only look at music, social media, and technology while also forgetting the other elements that make-up pop culture such as movies, fashion, politics, etc. 2009 may have had some 10s aspects, but it was very little. Not only was Emo/scene fashion still accessible so was hip-hop, preppy, Ed Hardy, etc. which were relevant at that time. In cinema, there was still movies like American Pie 7, 17 Again, I Love You Beth Cooper, Precious, Fired Up, etc. As Infinity once stated, film companies were predominantly Pixar, Dreamworks, and the Harry Potter franchise, not the Marvel Cinematic Universe or live-action fantasy reboot craze. For TV, there was the Office, Lost, 24; as well as Everybody Hates Chris, My name is Earl, Reno 911!, The L Word and Prison Break. In 2009, the LGBT was still universally not accepted by most people as well as fewer people were being upset by a single joke or action. Even if we witnessed Obama making history, the Afghanistan and Iraq wars were still ongoing. The last thing, the Kardashian clan, were not superstars yet despite already having their show by then. Paris Hilton and Tila Tequila were the main stars for fashion and reality TV especially that Tila herself did not have any controversy yet until the feud with Shawn Merriman in September 2009. All these components That I listed is what separates ’09 from the early 10s. It’s honestly strange how people don’t seem to remember the late 00s and or the early 10s anymore, and they weren’t even that long ago!
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Post by unicornic on May 25, 2018 5:02:01 GMT 10
rainbow is anything wrong? You don’t seem very happy today...
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 5:18:30 GMT 10
2006 and 2009 felt worlds apart to me. But me being in middle school in 2006 and a senior in high school in 2009 might have something to do with that But in general, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009, all very changeful years IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2018 7:54:50 GMT 10
rainbow is anything wrong? You don’t seem very happy today... It was with her and Captain and a few other user's on inthe00s on a thread.
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