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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 25, 2018 17:16:14 GMT 10
I've never really been too familiar with Crunk and snap-rap music, despite the fact that the two genres are mentioned quite often when discussing the Mid 2000s. As a result, I decided to research a bit of information about the two genres, which provided me with an explanation as to why I know very little about crunk and snap-rap. It turns out that Australia never truly embraced those two genres. For instance, none of these songs charted within the ARIA Top-50, despite the fact that they were successful in America, the UK and New Zealand; I listened to this song for the first time a few minutes ago. How the hell did this even top the Billboard Hot 100? It's one of the worst songs i've ever listened to.  A 5 year old could make a better song than this. Even though it topped the charts in the US, as well as peaking at #25 in NZ and #29 in the UK, it only peaked at #53 here. Thank goodness it flopped. I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard. This reached #7 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #12 in New Zealand. Yet, it didn't even chart in Australia at all. These songs also either didn't chart in the Top-50 or didn't chart at all: * "Snap Yo Fingers" - Lil Jon (it did not chart. In fact, most of Lil Jon's songs were very unsuccessful on the charts) * "Do It to It" - Cherish (Peaked at #3 in NZ, #12 in America, #30 in the UK, but only #67 here) * "It's Goin' Down" - Yung Joc. * "Freek-a-Leek" - Petey Pablo * "Rock Yo Hips" - Crime Mob This was a real eye-opener for me. I personally thought the Mid 2000s were an ordinary era for music, but when compared to some of the songs the US had to put up with, it's made me appreciate the chart music I listened to at the time a lot more. I honestly feel sorry for anyone who had to experience the songs I shared/mentioned above. They are absolutely awful and I realise now why a lot of people dislike the Mid 2000s for music.
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Post by #Infinity on Feb 25, 2018 19:50:47 GMT 10
This was a real eye-opener for me. I personally thought the Mid 2000s were an ordinary era for music, but when compared to some of the songs the US had to put up with, it's made me appreciate the chart music I listened to at the time a lot more. I honestly feel sorry for anyone who had to experience the songs I shared/mentioned above. They are absolutely awful and I realise now why a lot of people dislike the Mid 2000s for music. Well, now you know just why I complain not only that I was born too late, but that I grew up in the wrong country. Indeed, the most insulting thing about it was that at the very same time all those unlistenable turds were tearing up American radio stations, the UK was instead treated to some of the very hottest pop music to come out of the 2000s: This didn't actually chart that high, due to a botched iTunes release, but people in the UK at least heard it. It's seriously one of the finest dance songs of the whole decade. I started listening to this group less once I read that one of the members insulted Rachel Stevens, but taking that personal bias out of it, this was a groundbreaking floorfiller that we Americans deserved in place of "Chain Hang Low." Yes, I know I got really carried away with posting music videos, but that's to demonstrate just how pissed I am at my American peers for utterly ruining the music scene of my adolescence, which could have been so excellent if only people in the US were more open to quality imported music and not barebones bling bling ringtone crap.
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Post by longaotian on Feb 25, 2018 20:38:33 GMT 10
Crunk music I find okay, snap rap is a different story and how did a song like "Laffy Taffy" even reach #1 in the US!? I guess it's a bit like "Bodak Yellow" last year even though that is still better. Anyways, after listening to this awful mid/late 2000s hip hop it made me realise even more how good hip hop was in the early 2000s, in fact it even makes Trap seem really good in comparison.
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Post by #Infinity on Feb 25, 2018 21:01:21 GMT 10
Crunk music I find okay, snap rap is a different story and how did a song like "Laffy Taffy" even reach #1 in the US!? I guess it's a bit like "Bodak Yellow" last year even though that is still better. Anyways, after listening to this awful mid/late 2000s hip hop it made me realise even more how good hip hop was in the early 2000s, in fact it even makes Trap seem really good in comparison. I basically gave up on pop music completely until 11th grade once "Laffy Taffy" went to #1 at the start of 2006.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 25, 2018 21:40:04 GMT 10
Well, now you know just why I complain not only that I was born too late, but that I grew up in the wrong country. Indeed, the most insulting thing about it was that at the very same time all those unlistenable turds were tearing up American radio stations, the UK was instead treated to some of the very hottest pop music to come out of the 2000s: Yes, I know I got really carried away with posting music videos, but that's to demonstrate just how pissed I am at my American peers for utterly ruining the music scene of my adolescence, which could have been so excellent if only people in the US were more open to quality imported music and not barebones bling bling ringtone crap. I can completely understand why you have that viewpoint. I would feel exactly the same way if I lived in the US during the Mid 2000s and missed out on experiencing the pop songs from overseas. I'm actually familiar with most of the songs you shared, because they charted over here as well. In fact, "Grace Kelly" was one of the biggest hits of 2007. Here are a few songs that I like from the Mid 2000s. Like the ones you shared, they weren't hits in the United States.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 25, 2018 23:39:21 GMT 10
Crunk music I find okay, snap rap is a different story and how did a song like "Laffy Taffy" even reach #1 in the US!? I guess it's a bit like "Bodak Yellow" last year even though that is still better. Anyways, after listening to this awful mid/late 2000s hip hop it made me realise even more how good hip hop was in the early 2000s, in fact it even makes Trap seem really good in comparison. Even I've got to admit that hip hop was a lot better back in the Early 2000s and I say that as someone who doesn't like hip-hop.  To be honest, I would find it hard to name a lot of hip-hop songs from the Mid 2000s. I can name songs by Jay-Z, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent and Chamillionaire, but that's pretty much it! 
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Post by X2M on Mar 11, 2018 14:57:30 GMT 10
I wouldn't say they were the only genres that dominated the US in the mid-00s. There was tons of non-snap/ringtone rap during that period. 50 Cent, The Game, Kanye, Common, Jay-Z, Eminem, and more. They definitely didn't follow that trend and instead took their own routes. Secondly, there was also R&B, the variations of rock, reggaeton, pop music etc. Those seem to be, unfortunately, left out when discussing mid-00s music.
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 12, 2018 3:01:14 GMT 10
I wouldn't say they were the only genres that dominated the US in the mid-00s. There was tons of non-snap/ringtone rap during that period. 50 Cent, The Game, Kanye, Common, Jay-Z, Eminem, and more. They definitely didn't follow that trend and instead took their own routes. Secondly, there was also R&B, the variations of rock, reggaeton, pop music etc. Those seem to be, unfortunately, left out when discussing mid-00s music. I think the reason is those get overlooked is because for the most part, they weren't quite strong enough to offset the appalling, out-of-nowhere badness of snap music from late 2005 to 2008, at least not enough for the mid/late 2000s to be as good as the early 2000s. Even with some good music, the common presence of atrocious crunk/snap songs just spoiled the American music scene completely. Also, not all of the really awful songs from the mid-2000s were necessarily snap. I remember despising these back when they came out, for example: Also, as far as the mid-2000s go, I personally think the first half of 2005, as well as all of 2004 were very much good times for music in the US. It would have been nice if more dance music was imported from the UK, but the stuff Americans got was still quite strong and I can get nostalgic for it. It really was the second half of 2005, as well as 2006 when the mid-2000s got particularly sour for the US.
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Post by X2M on Mar 12, 2018 6:43:04 GMT 10
I wouldn't say they were the only genres that dominated the US in the mid-00s. There was tons of non-snap/ringtone rap during that period. 50 Cent, The Game, Kanye, Common, Jay-Z, Eminem, and more. They definitely didn't follow that trend and instead took their own routes. Secondly, there was also R&B, the variations of rock, reggaeton, pop music etc. Those seem to be, unfortunately, left out when discussing mid-00s music. I think the reason those get overlooked is that, for the most part, they weren't quite strong enough to offset the appalling, out-of-nowhere badness of snap music from late 2005 to 2008, at least not enough for the mid/ the late 2000s to be as good as the early 2000s. Even with some good music, the common presence of atrocious crunk/snap songs just spoiled the American music scene completely. Also, not all of the really awful songs from the mid-2000s were necessarily snap. I remember despising these back when they came out, for example: Also, as far as the mid-2000s go, I personally think the first half of 2005, as well as all of 2004, were very much good times for music in the US. It would have been nice if more dance music was imported from the UK, but the stuff Americans got was still quite strong and I can get nostalgic for it. It really was the second half of 2005, as well as 2006 when the mid-2000s got particularly sour for the US. You know, you are right about that. Come to think of it, I did hear more of the snap rap from that time than everything combined. It's just so weird because I listened to a variety of music in the mid-00s yet, the radio practically played a lot of that sub-genre instead of the others. After Gold Digger played on the radio, it would be Laffy Taffy all of a sudden. Then in 2006, as Hip Don't Lie dominated, so did Ms. New Booty. I agree that it would have been hard to escape the snap-rap since it was everywhere on the Top 40. Yeah, I wouldn't blame you or anyone else if you didn't that enjoy BEP song. All it talked about was Fergie's rear and nothing else; however, though they did have two other tracks that most people don't remember such as Don't Phunk With My Heart and Pump It which were better than My Humps. Pretty Ricky seemed like a one-album wonder as they really only controlled 2005. Yes, they had a song in 2007 called On The Hotline, and it was played on the radio; however, after that, they were nowhere to be seen again and that one of the members ended up going solo later on. As for Kelis, I didn't hear her much aside form Bossy and Milkshake. I read one of your posts that she had made great music in the UK, so it unfortunate that we didn't get to hear more of her outside of those two tracks. Regarding the late 00s, I'm not sure if snap-rap still completely reigned the era. Yes, there was Soulja Boy; however, there was also Timbaland, JT, T-Pain, Chris Brown, Rhianna, Nelly Furtado, OneRepublic, Lloyd, Usher and so on to balance it out at least. I totally agree that the 2004-05 year was an amazing time for music. It sucks how the 2005-06 period didn't end up that way. It could have been much better. Oh, and I would also add the 2003-04 year too. That timeframe had a lot of good music that are classics now.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 12, 2018 8:46:49 GMT 10
You know, you are right about that. Come to think of it, I did hear more of the snap rap from that time than everything combined. It's just so weird because I listened to a variety of music in the mid-00s yet, the radio practically played a lot of that sub-genre instead of the others. After Gold Digger played on the radio, it would be Laffy Taffy all of a sudden. Then in 2006, as Hip Don't Lie dominated, so did Ms. New Booty. I agree that it would have been hard to escape the snap-rap since it was everywhere on the Top 40. I couldn't even imagine how horrible it must have felt to hear songs such as "Laffy Taffy" and "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" saturate the airwaves. I listened to the songs for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't believe how horrible they were.
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Post by X2M on Mar 12, 2018 11:43:34 GMT 10
You know, you are right about that. Come to think of it, I did hear more of the snap rap from that time than everything combined. It's just so weird because I listened to a variety of music in the mid-00s yet, the radio practically played a lot of that sub-genre instead of the others. After Gold Digger played on the radio, it would be Laffy Taffy all of a sudden. Then in 2006, as Hip Don't Lie dominated, so did Ms. New Booty. I agree that it would have been hard to escape the snap-rap since it was everywhere on the Top 40. I couldn't even imagine how horrible it must have felt to hear songs such as "Laffy Taffy" and "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" saturate the airwaves. I listened to the songs for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't believe how horrible they were. Yeah, they were awful, but at the same time, they were catchier and people even danced to them as well. I'll still take it along with crunk over today's trap though.
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 12, 2018 12:00:44 GMT 10
I couldn't even imagine how horrible it must have felt to hear songs such as "Laffy Taffy" and "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" saturate the airwaves. I listened to the songs for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't believe how horrible they were. Yeah, they were awful, but at the same time, they were catchier and people even danced to them as well. I'll still take it along with crunk over today's trap though. Most of them are better than "Bartier Cardi", "Bodak Yellow", "Gucci Gang", "XOR TOUR Llif3", and any of the vine raps, but not really much else trap from today. Not that I approve of current trap music, but garbage like "Laffy Taffy" and "Lean wit It, Rock wit It" were utter insults to the music industry as a whole.
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Post by X2M on Mar 13, 2018 13:37:41 GMT 10
Yeah, they were awful, but at the same time, they were catchier and people even danced to them as well. I'll still take it along with crunk over today's trap though. Most of them are better than "Bartier Cardi", "Bodak Yellow", "Gucci Gang", "XOR TOUR Llif3", and any of the vine raps, but not really much else trap from today. Not that I approve of current trap music, but garbage like "Laffy Taffy" and "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" were utter insults to the music industry as a whole. Agreed, and that's why they haven't played those two songs or the rest of the subgenre anywhere since they dominated the music scene. If anything, when it comes mid-00s throwback hip-hop songs, it's more the likes of Kanye, Snoop, Common, The Game, 50 Cent, Missy Elliott, etc. rather than Snap-rap. If you want to know, I didn't hear any of those songs ever again until a few months ago when my uncle's phone all of a sudden started playing Laffy Taffy. I hadn't heard that track in 12 years and it was horrible and hilarious at the same time!  And no worries at all. I understand you loathe Trap. So do I. At least, the good news is there IS an alternative to that subgenre and it's the non-trappers. That would be Kendrick, J Cole, Logic, Chance, Joey Badass, Post Malone (he has a few good ones that don't get played on the radio), Drake, etc and they are much better than the Trappers. I'll take the first list over the second any day regarding 2010s hip-hop.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jul 24, 2018 16:13:23 GMT 10
Speaking of "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It", even though I only listened to the song (at least in it's entirety) for the first time just a few months ago, I have actually seen the music video before. I can remember seeing the song/music video featured in a "Top-20 worst songs of all time" television special which aired around that time, and if my memory serves me correctly, "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" was in the Top-3. It was an Australian-produced television program.
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A 5 year old could make a better song than this. Even though it topped the charts in the US, as well as peaking at #25 in NZ and #29 in the UK, it only peaked at #53 here. Thank goodness it flopped. I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard. 
To be honest, I would find it hard to name a lot of hip-hop songs from the Mid 2000s. I can name songs by Jay-Z, Eminem, Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent and Chamillionaire, but that's pretty much it! 
