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Post by outlaw on Mar 18, 2018 5:43:22 GMT 10
Is 2005 the late year to have had 90s influence? I was visiting my friend who was born in January 2002. He is the youngest of 4 siblings and his older brother and his older sister, still lives with him. So he shares a room with his sister, and whilst we were there she was clearing out some stuff from when she was in 12th Grade (year 11). She came across a song album of 2005 songs she had on a CD. She played it and some songs sounded so late 90s. Songs that I heard were:
Which kinda sounds 90s
For me sounds a little late 90s
Sounds maybe 1998/1999 to me
These songs and a few others I heard, sounded to me, quite 90s. Although I was very small to have remembered 2005 as I was 2 for 75 percent of the year, I have listened to some 90s songs on yt and some songs from 2005 sounds almost the same. Mariah Carey and Green Day were still relevant, however their sound was different from what it was in the 90s. Hairstyles such as spiky and frosted tips remained popular in 2005, car designs still resembled those of the late 90s, but were getting bigger and fatter. Some phones from the 90s were still commonly used as well as VCR - I recently saw a cassette tape of my 3rd birthday in 2005. N64 was still owned and used by a lot of people in 2005, though by 2006/07, Nintendo DS Lite and Nintendo DS were very popular and N64 was starting to become old. By 2004/5, most 90s shows ended their original run and most shows now started to modernize their shows into the 2000s. Most people say that the 90s leftovers ended around 2002/03, but I think there was still elements of 90s everywhere as late as 2005/early 2006. By late 2005, everything 90s started disappearing and 2006 for me is the first year where music sounded very 2000s, without small drops of 90s and most of the fashion trends were inspired by the 1960s. Clothes like skinny jeans and Converse All Stars were very popular by late 2005/early 2006.
By 2007, I believe is when 90's nostalgia slowly began.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 18, 2018 8:40:52 GMT 10
I can kind of see how someone may consider 2005 to have similarities with the '90s on face value, considering that Mariah Carey, Weezer, Backstreet Boys and Green Day all made comebacks around that time. However, if there were any '90s influences still remaining in 2005, they were small and not significant. I think music had some production similarities with the Late '90s, but otherwise, the music scene itself had changed quite a lot between that time.
To be honest, I don't think the songs you shared above sound like they could have been released in the '90s. "Since U Been Gone" is very much a product of it's time. Really, the only popular genre of music of the time which had some connection with the '90s is Post-Grunge, however even that's stretching it a bit, as bands such as Nickelback, Hoobastank and 3 Doors Down are stylistically different from their Mid-Late '90s predecessors.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 15:04:20 GMT 10
Is 2005 the late year to have had 90s influence? I was visiting my friend who was born in January 2002 - he's currently a sophomore. He is the youngest of 4 siblings and his older brother and his older sister, still lives with him. So he shares a room with his sister, and whilst we were there she was clearing out some stuff from when she was in 12th Grade. She came across a song album of 2005 songs she had on a CD. She played it and some songs sounded so late 90s. Songs that I heard were: Which kinda sounds 90s For me sounds a little late 90s Sounds maybe 1998/1999 to me These songs and a few others I heard, sounded to me, quite 90s. Although I was very small to have remembered 2005 as I was 2 for 75 percent of the year, I have listened to some 90s songs on yt and some songs from 2005 sounds almost the same. Mariah Carey and Green Day were still relevant, however their sound was different from what it was in the 90s. Hairstyles such as spiky and frosted tips remained popular in 2005, car designs still resembled those of the late 90s, but were getting bigger and fatter. Some phones from the 90s were still commonly used as well as VCR - I recently saw a cassette tape of my 3rd birthday in 2005. N64 was still owned and used by a lot of people in 2005, though by 2006/07, Nintendo DS Lite and Nintendo DS were very popular and N64 was starting to become old. By 2004/5, most 90s shows ended their original run and most shows now started to modernize their shows into the 2000s. Most people say that the 90s leftovers ended around 2002/03, but I think there was still elements of 90s everywhere as late as 2005/early 2006. By late 2005, everything 90s started disappearing and 2006 for me is the first year where music sounded very 2000s, without small drops of 90s and most of the fashion trends were inspired by the 1960s. Clothes like skinny jeans and Converse All Stars were very popular by late 2005/early 2006. By 2007, I believe is when 90's nostalgia slowly began. Gold Digger and Get Right doesn't sound 90s to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 23:20:02 GMT 10
I would probably say 2006:
*I could recall seeing some people with frosted tips even as late as late 2006/early 2007.
*2005 and 2006 was still pre-iPhone, and social media was not really a commonplace yet.
*I've been hearing many people mention about how 90's influence lasted until 2006.
*Seventh generation gaming didn't take off yet.
*PS1 consoles were still being sold until 2006.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 18, 2018 23:37:03 GMT 10
I would probably say 2006: *I could recall seeing some people with frosted tips even as late as late 2006/early 2007. *2005 and 2006 was still pre-iPhone, and social media was not really a commonplace yet. *I've been hearing many people mention about how 90's influence lasted until 2006. *Seventh generation gaming didn't take off yet. *PS1 consoles were still being sold until 2006. I'm not sure if frosted tips can really be regarded as being a trend unique to the '90s though. They were mostly popular during the Y2K-Era, which was a cultural era in it's own right and had strong cultural similarities with both the '90s and the 2000s. I would be more inclined to say that frosted tips were a lingering influence from the Y2K-Era, rather than being something straight from the '90s.
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Post by rainbow on Mar 18, 2018 23:44:45 GMT 10
I would say 90's influences ended on December 31st, 1999 11:59:59 PM.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 19, 2018 0:08:16 GMT 10
These songs and a few others I heard, sounded to me, quite 90s. Although I was very small to have remembered 2005 as I was 2 for 75 percent of the year, I have listened to some 90s songs on yt and some songs from 2005 sounds almost the same. Mariah Carey and Green Day were still relevant, however their sound was different from what it was in the 90s. Hairstyles such as spiky and frosted tips remained popular in 2005, car designs still resembled those of the late 90s, but were getting bigger and fatter. Some phones from the 90s were still commonly used as well as VCR - I recently saw a cassette tape of my 3rd birthday in 2005. N64 was still owned and used by a lot of people in 2005, though by 2006/07, Nintendo DS Lite and Nintendo DS were very popular and N64 was starting to become old. By 2004/5, most 90s shows ended their original run and most shows now started to modernize their shows into the 2000s. Most people say that the 90s leftovers ended around 2002/03, but I think there was still elements of 90s everywhere as late as 2005/early 2006. By late 2005, everything 90s started disappearing and 2006 for me is the first year where music sounded very 2000s, without small drops of 90s and most of the fashion trends were inspired by the 1960s. Clothes like skinny jeans and Converse All Stars were very popular by late 2005/early 2006. By 2007, I believe is when 90's nostalgia slowly began. There may have been some '90s influences still lingering into 2005, but they really weren't that prominent, to be honest. From my own perspective, 2005 was one of the most quintessential years of the decade. The 2000s firmly established themselves by 2003 and there were enough cultural and stylistic differences to truly distinguish them from the '90s. Mariah Carey and Green Day may have still been around in 2005, but artists/bands such as 50 Cent, Beyonce, Nickelback and Evanescence were also enjoying success at the time as well. The world of 2005 was entirely different from the world of 1995.
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Post by outlaw on Mar 22, 2018 2:30:28 GMT 10
I would probably say 2006: *I could recall seeing some people with frosted tips even as late as late 2006/early 2007. *2005 and 2006 was still pre-iPhone, and social media was not really a commonplace yet. *I've been hearing many people mention about how 90's influence lasted until 2006. *Seventh generation gaming didn't take off yet. *PS1 consoles were still being sold until 2006. Yeah I was thinking maybe up till 2006, but I wasn't sure. Like even though 2006 is core 2000s, I still feel some of the songs had some sort of 90s or late 90s influence hanging about (maybe its just me being obsessed with the 90s). But now I'm beginning to believe that any major 90s influence ended around early 2004/mid 2004 and any other 90s influence still around, ended until late 2005 or maybe even early 2006. I also believe that by 2007/08, 90s nostalgia started, even though it wasn't as big.
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Post by outlaw on Mar 22, 2018 2:36:07 GMT 10
These songs and a few others I heard, sounded to me, quite 90s. Although I was very small to have remembered 2005 as I was 2 for 75 percent of the year, I have listened to some 90s songs on yt and some songs from 2005 sounds almost the same. Mariah Carey and Green Day were still relevant, however their sound was different from what it was in the 90s. Hairstyles such as spiky and frosted tips remained popular in 2005, car designs still resembled those of the late 90s, but were getting bigger and fatter. Some phones from the 90s were still commonly used as well as VCR - I recently saw a cassette tape of my 3rd birthday in 2005. N64 was still owned and used by a lot of people in 2005, though by 2006/07, Nintendo DS Lite and Nintendo DS were very popular and N64 was starting to become old. By 2004/5, most 90s shows ended their original run and most shows now started to modernize their shows into the 2000s. Most people say that the 90s leftovers ended around 2002/03, but I think there was still elements of 90s everywhere as late as 2005/early 2006. By late 2005, everything 90s started disappearing and 2006 for me is the first year where music sounded very 2000s, without small drops of 90s and most of the fashion trends were inspired by the 1960s. Clothes like skinny jeans and Converse All Stars were very popular by late 2005/early 2006. By 2007, I believe is when 90's nostalgia slowly began. There may have been some '90s influences still lingering into 2005, but they really weren't that prominent, to be honest. From my own perspective, 2005 was one of the most quintessential years of the decade. The 2000s firmly established themselves by 2003 and there were enough cultural and stylistic differences to truly distinguish them from the '90s. Mariah Carey and Green Day may have still been around in 2005, but artists/bands such as 50 Cent, Beyonce, Nickelback and Evanescence were also enjoying success at the time as well. The world of 2005 was entirely different from the world of 1995. I agree. I believe that there was 90s influence in 2005, which you could see a little bit in music but it wasn't that prominent. I believe any prominent 90s influence ended around early 2004/mid 2004 (or maybe that's me stretching it a bit), and I also believe that any other 90s influence still lingering ended around late 2005/early 2006.
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 23, 2018 9:16:32 GMT 10
I don't think one of those songs in the OP sounds genuinely '90s. They are 2000s songs, through and through. "Since U Been Gone" could have been released in 2009 and still sounded very current; it's really not very different from "Waking Up in Vegas" or "According to You". These would be true '90s holdover styled-songs from the 2000s:
Even though Robbie Williams hit his overall peak around the late '90s and early 2000s, this still sounds distinctly '90s because of its softened new jack swing production, a common approach for several r&b/adult contemporary songs from that decade. Very little music from the 2000s had this type of sound, even though this is one of Robbie's most famous hits.
I have no idea how Westlife remained so popular in the UK throughout the entirety of the 2000s, considering how much they still resembled early teen pop-era Backstreet Boys so deep into the decade. Whatever the case, yes, this definitely sounds more like something that would come out in 1998 or 1999 and barely resembles more conventional ballads of its era like "My Immortal" and "100 Years".
This is quite different from "I'm a Slave 4 U", which was a hit less than a year after this was popular. "Stronger" is a classic example of late '90s Max Martin-produced post-new jack swing, a style which can be traced back to songs like "I Want You Back" and "Everybody (Backstreet's Back)", which are from 1996 and 1997, respectively (the former came out in Germany and Switzerland before it reached most of the rest of the world).
Honestly, in music, it's very difficult for me to find anything from beyond 2001 that really sounds more like it belongs in the '90s than the 2000s. Even 2000 and 2001 aren't that '90s-oriented, to be honest. Aside from a few power pop singles like "Crazy for This Girl", as well as the teen pop singles that leaned more towards new jack swing than Timbaland-style r&b, they were pretty 2000s years already. Just because something from the early 2000s wouldn't sound entirely out of place in the year 1999 doesn't automatically make it '90s. If that were the case, then we'd probably have to compare it to this type of music:
Not the same, my dear.
I still honestly think 2005 is the quintessential year of the 2000s. It doesn't lean '90s in the slightest, instead its a pretty even balance of both halves of the decade.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 28, 2018 21:50:26 GMT 10
Honestly, in music, it's very difficult for me to find anything from beyond 2001 that really sounds more like it belongs in the '90s than the 2000s. Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion on this song? It was released in 2004, but I think it could have been released in the Mid-Late '90s.
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Post by Telso on Apr 16, 2018 18:10:31 GMT 10
I seriously dislike these types of "how 90s the 2000s years were" discussions as if being 90s is the only redeeming factor of those years.
As for the answer: Nah, definitely not, an argument can be made that 2000-2001 belong to the same era as 1998-1999, but past 2002 the 90s were definitely over and no one cared about them (the 80s were the past decade that was on the radar to look for).
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 17, 2018 17:27:20 GMT 10
I seriously dislike these types of "how 90s the 2000s years were" discussions as if being 90s is the only redeeming factor of those years. That's an example of why decadeology is banned on Popedia. Decadeology threads do not encourage constructive discussion.
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