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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 10, 2018 10:35:23 GMT 10
I'm sure RockyMountainExtreme may remember this (even though he isn't a real captain  ), but does anyone else remember there being a pirate craze around 2004/2005? I was reminiscing about both years just a short while ago and one thing I was reminded of was how popular pirate merchandise was at the time. I remember a lot of kids used to dress-up as pirates at my primary school's "crazy hat day". No doubt the fad/interest would have been generated by the release of "Pirates of the Caribbean" in June 2003.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 3:00:40 GMT 10
Did you see that new pirate movie? It's rated ARRRRRGH!!!
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 11, 2018 9:10:18 GMT 10
Did you see that new pirate movie? It's rated ARRRRRGH!!! 
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Post by #Infinity on Aug 11, 2018 9:19:21 GMT 10
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Post by al on Aug 11, 2018 12:11:31 GMT 10
Though pirates were indeed everywhere in the mid 00's, I don't know if they really ever went away. I think the same could be said for elves and wizards and whatnot thanks to LotR and HP around the same time. The fantasy genre had been really incorporated into the mainstream in a way it hadn't before, and I can see this having contributed the "geek chic" culture that took off in the late 00's and still remains popular.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 11, 2018 21:19:52 GMT 10
Though pirates were indeed everywhere in the mid 00's, I don't know if they really ever went away. I think the same could be said for elves and wizards and whatnot thanks to LotR and HP around the same time. The fantasy genre had been really incorporated into the mainstream in a way it hadn't before, and I can see this having contributed the "geek chic" culture that took off in the late 00's and still remains popular. I'm not sure if I would really consider pirates to still be a popular fad/trend, to be honest. It's likely that kids would still have pirate-themed birthday parties and dress-up as pirates, but many kids would have done exactly that prior to the Mid 2000s as well. I just don't see pirates having a prominent presence in the media or pop culture anymore and they haven't for quite some time.
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Post by al on Aug 12, 2018 11:10:33 GMT 10
In the US a lot of pirate stuff still creeps up around Halloween, it's probably one of the easiest adult costumes to find. Among the Disney fandom PotC is still one of the most popular franchises. At Disney World you will wait as long to meet Captain Jack as you would Mickey Mouse. They still move a decent amount of merch, though I think the more recent mermaid fascination has contributed to that. The series Black Sails also gave pirates some fresh life during its mid 10's run. While I can agree it's not nearly as hot as it was, they basically got eaten by zombies, I stand by pirates still hanging out in the background. Now vampires are a lot more difficult to find now IMO.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 12, 2018 11:26:04 GMT 10
In the US a lot of pirate stuff still creeps up around Halloween, it's probably one of the easiest adult costumes to find. Among the Disney fandom PotC is still one of the most popular franchises. At Disney World you will wait as long to meet Captain Jack as you would Mickey Mouse. They still move a decent amount of merch, though I think the more recent mermaid fascination has contributed to that. The series Black Sails also gave pirates some fresh life during its mid 10's run. While I can agree it's not nearly as hot as it was, they basically got eaten by zombies, I stand by pirates still hanging out in the background. Now vampires are a lot more difficult to find now IMO. That's a good point. I can see how pirate merchandise would still remain relevant in the US, as Halloween is a much bigger occasion over there and the theme parks are more likely to have Pirate-themed paraphernalia. In regards to vampires, it's interesting that you should mention that actually. When do you think the fad/interest in vampires began to die out? I would personally pinpoint it at around 2009/2010. I remember The Vampire Diaries was quite popular around that time and then of course, Twilight was also huge at the time as well.
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Post by Telso on Aug 12, 2018 11:45:19 GMT 10
One of the most infamous peer-to-peer sites also was founded during that period.  Coincidence?
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Post by al on Aug 13, 2018 12:10:37 GMT 10
In regards to vampires, it's interesting that you should mention that actually. When do you think the fad/interest in vampires began to die out? I would personally pinpoint it at around 2009/2010. I remember The Vampire Diaries was quite popular around that time and then of course, Twilight was also huge at the time as well. I drove by a house with a pirate flag today lol. Could have been a Kenny Chesney flag. I feel like "theme" stuff is generally more of a thing in the US in general, in addition to just Halloween. I think the vampire fad built in 2008, peaked in early 2009, yet was already fading by the start of 2010. This timeline mimics the Twilight release pretty closely, with the other vampire shows soon following. I think the main difference between PotC and Twilight is that the latter had absolute crazed fans, with just as many intense haters. Not just the series, but the whole topic was heavily made fun of and therefore stigmatized, therefore making it too easy to implode and fade out. Even the fans eventually grew embarrassed to admit they liked it. Beyond a few posters and whatnot (and the books, obviously) there also wasn't a huge opportunity for merch like there is in other franchises its size. Pirates get viewed as goofy and are parodied every once in a while, but I've never witnessed any true vitriol towards PotC. A bit like Marvel, the cheese factor has never been enough to actually deter people, allowing for their acceptability to be retained. Side note: The South Park episode about vamps where the goth kids burn down Hot Topic is a classic.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 13, 2018 13:24:03 GMT 10
I drove by a house with a pirate flag today lol. Could have been a Kenny Chesney flag. I feel like "theme" stuff is generally more of a thing in the US in general, in addition to just Halloween. I think the vampire fad built in 2008, peaked in early 2009, yet was already fading by the start of 2010. This timeline mimics the Twilight release pretty closely, with the other vampire shows soon following. I think the main difference between PotC and Twilight is that the latter had absolute crazed fans, with just as many intense haters. Not just the series, but the whole topic was heavily made fun of and therefore stigmatized, therefore making it too easy to implode and fade out. Even the fans eventually grew embarrassed to admit they liked it. Beyond a few posters and whatnot (and the books, obviously) there also wasn't a huge opportunity for merch like there is in other franchises its size. Pirates get viewed as goofy and are parodied every once in a while, but I've never witnessed any true vitriol towards PotC. A bit like Marvel, the cheese factor has never been enough to actually deter people, allowing for their acceptability to be retained. Side note: The South Park episode about vamps where the goth kids burn down Hot Topic is a classic. Haha, what a coincidence!  I can't even remember the last time I saw a pirate flag (or any pirate-themed merchandise) out in public, to be honest. I agree. Although it had a huge fanbase, Twilight was primarily perceived as being a teen-flick and that in itself was why a lot of people disliked it so much. I think a lot of the hatred directed at the movie was more to do with the fact that it had the stigma associated with the vampire fad, rather than the actual movie itself being of a poor standard. The vampire genre has traditionally had a mixed reception from the public. Yep. In addition to that, PotC was a movie that the whole family could enjoy. It may be thought as being somewhat cheesy, but anyone of any age can sit down and get a good laugh out it. I haven't seen that South Park episode before, but to be honest, I've only ever watched one or two episodes of South Park. 
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), but does anyone else remember there being a pirate craze around 2004/2005? I was reminiscing about both years just a short while ago and one thing I was reminded of was how popular pirate merchandise was at the time. I remember a lot of kids used to dress-up as pirates at my primary school's "crazy hat day". No doubt the fad/interest would have been generated by the release of "Pirates of the Caribbean" in June 2003. 
I can't even remember the last time I saw a pirate flag (or any pirate-themed merchandise) out in public, to be honest. 