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Post by slashpop on Jun 29, 2021 19:10:51 GMT 10
What were some of yours?
Here's what I remember from 2002 that was gone or changed by 2003
- Getting away playing the N64 or dreamcast and seeing them for rent in stores or in bargin bins
- VHS is still okay to exclusively have, despite being in stores to 2004-2006, being strictly VHS only in 2003 was a bit dated
- 90s style fashion like very baggy jeans, curtained hair, late 90s casual female hair/clothing, much more visible
- Nu-metal still acceptable as opposed to be frowned upon or watered down in 03
- Tapes as samplers are more of a thing than 2003
- Arcades being a tiny bit cooler in 02, and less gentrified than 03, even though they were dead since the late 90s
- Trading cards, although loosing steam pop culturally since 2001, were a bit more relevant thing in pop culture as opposed to feeling meaningless and endless like in 2003
- More movies with gen x feel/90s attitude, even though the era was over.
- Basic, natural or simple looks dominate fashion instead of bits of more noticebable incoming mid 00s modifications (messy pseudo edgy images or excessive patterns graphics on shirts, ripped/bleached jeans and designer influences in casual fashion)
- Popular and big movies have a stronger Y2K vibe
- Video games felt less generic and oversaturated, even though this wouldn't happen until mid to late 2000s, you could start to feel it to some very limited degree in 2003
- Video games anticipation/hype and game conceptualization has 90s energy and feels connected to the Y2K/90s era in this regard.
- Magazines feel more essential, still do in 2003 but they start to feel different, even if by a tiny bit.
- Beards/ patchy facial hair, outside of goatees and the related , weren't a thing whatsoever in 2002 ,in 2003 way before beards are a trend you start seeing a few people experimenting getting into facial hair/beards even if it isn't a thing until around late 04-06
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Post by 10slover on Jun 29, 2021 19:42:00 GMT 10
I was a little baby, 2 years old
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 29, 2021 19:57:37 GMT 10
I'm starting to get the idea that every year is linked to each other. We're finding links of the late 00s in 2003, links to the Y2K era in 1992, links to the 80s in 1974...
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Post by 10slover on Jun 29, 2021 21:27:10 GMT 10
I'm starting to get the idea that every year is linked to each other. We're finding links of the late 00s in 2003, links to the Y2K era in 1992, links to the 80s in 1974... Y2k era in 92?? Woah? Care to elaborate
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Post by jaydawg89 on Jun 29, 2021 21:50:56 GMT 10
I'm starting to get the idea that every year is linked to each other. We're finding links of the late 00s in 2003, links to the Y2K era in 1992, links to the 80s in 1974... Y2k era in 92?? Woah? Care to elaborate What I mean is that you can find influences of any era in any year lol. 1992 has more links to the 80s rather than the Y2K era but, if you look into it enough, you could probably find links/very early signs of the Y2K era.
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Post by al on Jun 30, 2021 2:04:36 GMT 10
Some of the cutesy y2k motifs like smileys, peace signs, butterflies, etc didn't have as much of a presence.
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Post by John Titor on Jun 30, 2021 3:08:57 GMT 10
WWF becoming WWE
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Post by John Titor on Jun 30, 2021 3:12:43 GMT 10
Music in 2002 was not y2k anymore
some movies were filmed in 2001 tho so they can't help it
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Post by ItsMichael on Jun 30, 2021 6:30:43 GMT 10
Fun fact that I didn’t know: the last N64 game (Pro Skater 3) was released that year (somewhere in August) and is, I think, the only game to be released on the N64 during the entirety of that year.
To sum up this analysis, 2002 did feel like the best cultural early 2000s year. Think about it this way: 2000 and most of 2001 which was pre-9/11 were way too 90s or Y2K related to be even considered early 2000s years culturally and while 2003 in my opinion is considered an early 2000s year for the most part, more core 2000s elements were overpowering Y2K elements which prevents it from becoming an early 2000s year to some people. 2002 just seemed like the perfect balance of the Y2K influences that were popular back in the late 90s as well as in 2000 and 2001 and the core 2000s influences that would blow up in the mid 2000s. I would say in 2002, more Y2K influences were outweighing core 2000s influences.
As for music, 2002 is the last year I would consider nu metal to be dominant before metalcore replaced it in 2003/2004. Pop punk was more popular with bands like Sum 41, Blink-182, New Found Glory and Avril Lavigne while in 2003 pop punk was still big, emo went mainstream and dominated pop punk.
Here’s a few others
- 2002 was pre-Iraq while in 2003 the Iraq war begun
- Crunk wasn’t a thing back in 2002 while in 2003 the genre was mainstream
- Last year to be part of the golden age of Spongebob before Nickelodeon worked on the movie during 2003/2004.
- Frosted tips and spiky hair were still relevant in 2002 while in 2003 it died off
- *NSYNC’s final year together before they broke up later and Justin went solo
There’s actually quite a few differences between these two years even though they are similar.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 7:01:06 GMT 10
Fun fact that I didn’t know: the last N64 game (Pro Skater 3) was released that year (somewhere in August) and is, I think, the only game to be released during the entirety of that year. To sum up this analysis, 2002 did feel like the best cultural early 2000s year. Think about it this way: 2000 and most of 2001 which was pre-9/11 were way too 90s or Y2K related to be even considered early 2000s years culturally and while 2003 in my opinion is considered an early 2000s year for the most part, more core 2000s elements were overpowering Y2K elements which prevents it from becoming an early 2000s year to some people. 2002 just seemed like the perfect balance of the Y2K influences that were popular back in the late 90s as well as in 2000 and 2001 and the core 2000s influences that would blow up in the mid 2000s. I would say in 2002, more Y2K influences were outweighing core 2000s influences. As for music, 2002 is the last year I would consider nu metal to be dominant before metalcore replaced it in 2003/2004. Pop punk was more popular with bands like Sum 41, Blink-182, New Found Glory and Avril Lavigne while in 2003 pop punk was still big, emo went mainstream and dominated pop punk. Here’s a few others - 2002 was pre-Iraq while in 2003 the Iraq war begun - Crunk wasn’t a thing back in 2002 while in 2003 the genre was mainstream - Last year to be part of the golden age of Spongebob before Nickelodeon worked on the movie during 2003/2004. - Frosted tips and spiky hair were still relevant in 2002 while in 2003 it died off - *NSYNC’s final year together before they broke up later and Justin went solo There’s actually quite a few differences between these two years even though they are similar. Wow I did not know that the last N64 game dropped in 2002! Yes 2002 is perfection, my favorite early 2000s year and my favorite year out of the 2000s. I agree that 2000 to mid 2001 is a part of the Y2K era or the late 1990s. I share the same thoughts and perspectives as you do on this topic. I group 2000 to mid 2001 together and late 2001 to 2002 together. I think those periods are more related to each other than to the core 2000s or the core 1990s. 2002 is an extension of late 2001. IMO core 2000s elements began to come in by late 2001. But like you said from late 2001 to 2002, the core 2000s elements are overshadowed by Y2K or late 1990s leftovers. Nu-metal and skater pop punk still went strong in 2002, but started dying down in 2003. I forgot to mention the starts of the Iraq War, crunk and emo in 2003. Cartoon Network Powerhouse era peaked in 2002, but started watering down in 2003, before dying by the second half of 2004. 2002 vibe is more relaxed and carefree like previous years. 2002 has no trace of the mid 2000s era unlike 2003. While in 2003, the vibe started getting more serious and political like later years. If people want to say that 2002 is core 2000s, then they might as well put late 2001 too. Many Y2K and late 1990s shows are still airing in 2002, before starting to wind down in 2003. I believe 2001 and 2002 are more similar to each other than 2002 and 2003 are to each other. 2002 has the most iconic early 2000s music, movies, TV, fashion, gaming, culture, etc compared to 2000, 2001 and 2003. 2002 is the last year when gas prices are cheap before the 2000s energy crisis began in 2003. 2003 is when stuff started getting more expensive.
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Post by mc98 on Jun 30, 2021 7:47:24 GMT 10
Let's just say that 2002 is a post-Y2K/pre-core 00s year entirely. Very strange year indeed.
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Post by John Titor on Jun 30, 2021 9:44:25 GMT 10
Let's just say that 2002 is a post-Y2K/pre-core 00s year entirely. Very strange year indeed. this, we both lived it LIVE, 2002 while having some left overs like an Nysnc single that needed Nelly to even get airplay and some movies shot in 2001, 2002 was VERY separated from the y2k era. I love 2002 tbh it was amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 10:07:41 GMT 10
Let's just say that 2002 is a post-Y2K/pre-core 00s year entirely. Very strange year indeed. this, we both lived it LIVE, 2002 while having some left overs like an Nysnc single that needed Nelly to even get airplay and some movies shot in 2001, 2002 was VERY separated from the y2k era. I love 2002 tbh it was amazing. 2002 is its own year with a unique flavor and vibe, weird in a cool way. Those 2002 atmosphere threads of yours are on point and takes me back to 2002. Sometimes I can smell the photos as creepy as that sounds lol. 2002 is an improved version of late 2001. 2002 is not Y2K, but not core 2000s. I remember 2002 as I turned 4 that year and entered pre-school. I do not remember 2002 as clearly as 2004. 2002 is the quintessential early 2000s year. I also love 2002! 2002 kicks ass, balls to the walls amazing! 2002 is when 2000s culture felt fresh and exciting.
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Post by John Titor on Jun 30, 2021 10:13:24 GMT 10
this, we both lived it LIVE, 2002 while having some left overs like an Nysnc single that needed Nelly to even get airplay and some movies shot in 2001, 2002 was VERY separated from the y2k era. I love 2002 tbh it was amazing. 2002 is its own year with a unique flavor and vibe, weird in a cool way. Those 2002 atmosphere threads of yours are on point and takes me back to 2002. Sometimes I can smell the photos as creepy as that sounds lol. 2002 is an improved version of late 2001. 2002 is not Y2K, but not core 2000s. I remember 2002 as I turned 4 that year and entered pre-school. I do not remember 2002 as clearly as 2004. 2002 is the quintessential early 2000s year. I also love 2002! 2002 kicks ass, balls to the walls amazing! 2002 is when 2000s culture felt fresh and exciting. I know exactly what you mean, it's as if you are THERE smelling the smells !
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Post by slashpop on Jun 30, 2021 10:39:24 GMT 10
2002 is its own year with a unique flavor and vibe, weird in a cool way. Those 2002 atmosphere threads of yours are on point and takes me back to 2002. Sometimes I can smell the photos as creepy as that sounds lol. 2002 is an improved version of late 2001. 2002 is not Y2K, but not core 2000s. I remember 2002 as I turned 4 that year and entered pre-school. I do not remember 2002 as clearly as 2004. 2002 is the quintessential early 2000s year. I also love 2002! 2002 kicks ass, balls to the walls amazing! 2002 is when 2000s culture felt fresh and exciting. I know exactly what you mean, it's as if you are THERE smelling the smells ! Y2K as an era was slowly dying even in latter 2000, 2000-2001 is transitional and semi early 2000s and 01-02 early 2000s. However Even 2003 and 2004 has Y2K vibes/energy left it’s just that 2002 had much much more compared to 2003 in fashion, movies, video games and to some extent music.
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