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Post by mc98 on Feb 3, 2022 1:30:35 GMT 10
To me it’s 1983. MTV was like the #1 TV channel in the world. Synthesizers and drum machines were pretty much the default and necessary instruments in music. Stereotypical 80s fashion started to pop up in this year.
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Post by 10slover on Feb 3, 2022 1:34:31 GMT 10
Definitely 1983
There so many 70s leftovers in 1980-1982
I have actually seen a gen xer on Quora say 1983 was the true start of the 80s
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Post by mc98 on Feb 3, 2022 1:41:13 GMT 10
Definitely 1983 There so many 70s leftovers in 1980-1982 I have actually seen a gen xer on Quora say 1983 was the true start of the 80s Absolutely. The majority of the songs you hear in 1983 had some synthesizers.
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Post by mc98 on Feb 3, 2022 3:05:47 GMT 10
Late 1981 through 1982 was pointing towards the core 80s but it wasn’t enough because there were still plenty of late 70s holdovers.
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Post by TheUser98 on Feb 3, 2022 10:31:09 GMT 10
A better question would be, what was the last year of the core 80s? 1987 was when you had the stock market crash and the signing of the INF treaty (which signaled the beginning of the end of the Cold War), but many key aspects of 80s culture such as glam metal, big hair, Madonna, commercialism, Reaganomics, etc. were still going strong in 1988 and 1989.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 3, 2022 17:39:27 GMT 10
My vote also goes to 1983. MASH, an iconic 1970s show ended that February. Other 1970s shows like Happy Days were still airing, but 1980s shows overshadowed them. The video game crash happened. 1980s music, movies, TV, fashion, design, and pop culture seemed mostly established in 1983. The late 1970s influences still lingered, but they seemed less prevalent as 1983 went on. 1983 is still culturally early 1980s IMO. Late 1970s influences were 100% extinct by late 1984. 1980s music, movies, TV, fashion, design, and pop culture seemed mostly well established in 1981-1982, even alongside 1970s holdovers. The biggest misconception is that 1981 and 1982 were were still mostly late 70s and weren’t even 80s. All it takes is to look around and some research, popular hits, movies, fashion that was new. In 1983 it just became a bit better established, polished and purer but it was already there in 1981. There’s plenty of distinctly predominant 80s culture from 1981. 1978 to mid 1981 is leaning late 70s but a transition. There’s plenty of real Gen xers and boomers born before the late 1970s in real life would agree including people all over the internet. My brother was born in the start of the 1970s in 1971, and properly experienced every phase of the 1980s, sister was born in 1974, they mostly agree. The core 1980s start would be 1983-1984. They were just starting to wane in late 1988 to mid 1989 compared to late 1986 to mid 1988, but still had an influence. Late or latter 1989 into 1990 is the first period to be mostly removed from the typical core 1980s even if there was influence. Anyone who says otherwise is glossing over things and not looking into enough details. 1983–1984 was not a pure mid 1980s year but an early 1980s year transitioning to mid, some core culture applies to 1982-1983. 1984-1985 is the first proper mid 1980s year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2022 18:09:35 GMT 10
My vote also goes to 1983. MASH, an iconic 1970s show ended that February. Other 1970s shows like Happy Days were still airing, but 1980s shows overshadowed them. The video game crash happened. 1980s music, movies, TV, fashion, design, and pop culture seemed mostly established in 1983. The late 1970s influences still lingered, but they seemed less prevalent as 1983 went on. 1983 is still culturally early 1980s IMO. Late 1970s influences were 100% extinct by late 1984. 1980s music, movies, TV, fashion, design, and pop culture seemed mostly well established in 1981-1982, even alongside 1970s holdovers. The biggest misconception is that 1981 and 1982 were were still mostly late 70s and weren’t even 80s. All it takes is to look around. In 1983 it just became a bit better established, polished and purer but it was already there in 1981. There’s plenty of distinctly predominant 80s culture from 1981. 1978 to mid 1981 is leaning late 70s but a transition. There’s plenty of real Gen xers and boomers born before the late 1970s in real life would agree all over the internet. My brother was born in the start of the 1970s in 1971, and properly experienced every phase of the 1980s, sister was born in 1974, they mostly agree. The core 1980s start would be 1983-1984. They were just starting to wane in late 1988 to mid 1989 compared to late 1986 to mid 1988, but still had an influence. Late or latter 1989 into 1990 is the first period to be mostly removed from the typical core 1980s even if there was influence. Anyone who says otherwise is glossing over things and not looking into enough details. 1983–1984 was not a pure mid 1980s year but an early 1980s year transitioning to mid, some core culture applies to 1982-1983. 1984-1985 is the first proper mid 1980s year. Absolutely. From what I've seen online, it seems as if the 1980s identity was mostly well-established once the 1981-1982 season hit, despite the 1970s holdovers. The only year of the numerical 1980s that I see as a late 1970s cultural year is 1980. I see 1981 and 1982 as early 1980s cultural years. 1983 built on the changes cemented in the second half of 1981 and 1982, definitely polished the 1980s identity almost everyone romanticizes about. 1983-1984 season seems like a more appropriate start to the core 1980s. Makes sense that the core 1980s would start to wane from late 1988 to mid 1989, with the rising of the earliest 1990s influences. Late 1989 and 1990 for sure felt removed from the core 1980s and maybe the mid 1980s too. I always saw the 1983-1984 season as cultural early 1980s with modified mid 1980s elements. The 1984-1985 season feels like a more comfortable start to the cultural mid 1980s and by then late 1970s influences were totally gone, especially in TV with Happy Days ending in September 1984. I think 1984-1985 also might've had the earliest late 1980s connections or traces.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 4, 2022 8:15:15 GMT 10
1980s music, movies, TV, fashion, design, and pop culture seemed mostly well established in 1981-1982, even alongside 1970s holdovers. The biggest misconception is that 1981 and 1982 were were still mostly late 70s and weren’t even 80s. All it takes is to look around. In 1983 it just became a bit better established, polished and purer but it was already there in 1981. There’s plenty of distinctly predominant 80s culture from 1981. 1978 to mid 1981 is leaning late 70s but a transition. There’s plenty of real Gen xers and boomers born before the late 1970s in real life would agree all over the internet. My brother was born in the start of the 1970s in 1971, and properly experienced every phase of the 1980s, sister was born in 1974, they mostly agree. The core 1980s start would be 1983-1984. They were just starting to wane in late 1988 to mid 1989 compared to late 1986 to mid 1988, but still had an influence. Late or latter 1989 into 1990 is the first period to be mostly removed from the typical core 1980s even if there was influence. Anyone who says otherwise is glossing over things and not looking into enough details. 1983–1984 was not a pure mid 1980s year but an early 1980s year transitioning to mid, some core culture applies to 1982-1983. 1984-1985 is the first proper mid 1980s year. Absolutely. From what I've seen online, it seems as if the 1980s identity was mostly well-established once the 1981-1982 season hit, despite the 1970s holdovers. The only year of the numerical 1980s that I see as a late 1970s cultural year is 1980. I see 1981 and 1982 as early 1980s cultural years. 1983 built on the changes cemented in the second half of 1981 and 1982, definitely polished the 1980s identity almost everyone romanticizes about. 1983-1984 season seems like a more appropriate start to the core 1980s. Makes sense that the core 1980s would start to wane from late 1988 to mid 1989, with the rising of the earliest 1990s influences. Late 1989 and 1990 for sure felt removed from the core 1980s and maybe the mid 1980s too. I always saw the 1983-1984 season as cultural early 1980s with modified mid 1980s elements. The 1984-1985 season feels like a more comfortable start to the cultural mid 1980s and by then late 1970s influences were totally gone, especially in TV with Happy Days ending in September 1984. I think 1984-1985 also might've had the earliest late 1980s connections or traces. 1983-1984 that were more like the skeleton or base of the rest of the 80s. I think 1984-1985 had more trend starting points that lasted until the late 80s even if some things weren't always in the same level of popularity towards the end. You could argue that 1986 is a better year but a lot of things already took off in 84-85. Here are a number of them: -Classic movies from 84 or 85 with late 80s sequels seem to be alot : Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones (1981 but last is 89), Nightmare on Elm Street, Karate Kid, Beverly hills cop, Police academy, Back to the future. There were also spin off cartoons aimed at kids which I remember (karate kid, ghostbusters and police academy) at the end of the 80s, nightmare on elm street toys in kids toy stores in 1989. -Early freestyle music is released, 80s classic pop template is mostly set up or used for the rest of the decade, hip hop is more mainstream even if not at 86 levels popular 80s metal and rock is more diverse and more defined in the mainstream, very early house and very early gangsta rap (schooly d and ice t) music becomes an underground thing. -Nes, Commodore 64 and massive arcade games like Punch Out, Space Harrier, Marble Madness, 1942, Ghosts'nGoblins kill off and replace atari style games by 84-1985. This like the template for late 80s to mid 90s gaming era, Nes peaked from late 1987 to 1989-1990 -Ninja Turtles as comic book starts in 1984, gaining popularity as underground comic in 1985-1987. I remember ninja turtles blowing up in 1989, and starting to get popular in 1988. -Newer G.I Joe, Transformers, Thundercats, Garbage pail kids biggest franchsise of the mid 80s start around 1984-1985 last till the end. I remember the shows and cards in the late 80s even though they weren't in their prime popularity and peaked in 1985-1987, toys r us still had transformers and garbage pail kids cards in late 87/88-1989. -Hi top fades, cheesy neon fashion, zig zag patterns and surf fashion, some casual early 90s looks are more established in late 84-85-86. Some fashion associated with 1989-1994 has origins around this time and earlier. -LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, Doug E Fresh set up the edgier side of 80s hip hop around 1985-1986 set the ground work for boogie down productions, public enemy and eric b and rakim in the late 80s They still had big hits towards the end even in the 90s.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 28, 2022 22:05:44 GMT 10
1980s music, movies, TV, fashion, design, and pop culture seemed mostly well established in 1981-1982, even alongside 1970s holdovers. The biggest misconception is that 1981 and 1982 were were still mostly late 70s and weren’t even 80s. All it takes is to look around. In 1983 it just became a bit better established, polished and purer but it was already there in 1981. There’s plenty of distinctly predominant 80s culture from 1981. 1978 to mid 1981 is leaning late 70s but a transition. There’s plenty of real Gen xers and boomers born before the late 1970s in real life would agree all over the internet. My brother was born in the start of the 1970s in 1971, and properly experienced every phase of the 1980s, sister was born in 1974, they mostly agree. The core 1980s start would be 1983-1984. They were just starting to wane in late 1988 to mid 1989 compared to late 1986 to mid 1988, but still had an influence. Late or latter 1989 into 1990 is the first period to be mostly removed from the typical core 1980s even if there was influence. Anyone who says otherwise is glossing over things and not looking into enough details. 1983–1984 was not a pure mid 1980s year but an early 1980s year transitioning to mid, some core culture applies to 1982-1983. 1984-1985 is the first proper mid 1980s year. Absolutely. From what I've seen online, it seems as if the 1980s identity was mostly well-established once the 1981-1982 season hit, despite the 1970s holdovers. The only year of the numerical 1980s that I see as a late 1970s cultural year is 1980. I see 1981 and 1982 as early 1980s cultural years. 1983 built on the changes cemented in the second half of 1981 and 1982, definitely polished the 1980s identity almost everyone romanticizes about. 1983-1984 season seems like a more appropriate start to the core 1980s. Makes sense that the core 1980s would start to wane from late 1988 to mid 1989, with the rising of the earliest 1990s influences. Late 1989 and 1990 for sure felt removed from the core 1980s and maybe the mid 1980s too. I always saw the 1983-1984 season as cultural early 1980s with modified mid 1980s elements. The 1984-1985 season feels like a more comfortable start to the cultural mid 1980s and by then late 1970s influences were totally gone, especially in TV with Happy Days ending in September 1984. I think 1984-1985 also might've had the earliest late 1980s connections or traces. Here are hip hop songs that that make 1985 or 84-1985 more of a foundation for the latter 80s hip hop. I've always considered 70s-1984 as the pure old school hip hop era even though 1985 was the largely the same, you can see stuff that clearly breaks the mold and seems like incoming mid to late 80s influences in 1985 with these songs. Even though run dmc overlap with sounds with this new wave and peaked in the mid 80s, I always felt they were more of an old school group compared to LL cool j, mc shan and beastie boys etc, also considering they were around earlier :
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