|
Post by mc98 on Apr 5, 2022 8:58:23 GMT 10
2006 is mostly a mid 00s year. 7th gen zeitgeist didn't begin until 2007, sexyback came out but it wasn't until 2007 when electro influences started generally creeping into music. You don't have to grow up from the era to know the pop culture trends and changes. I may know many things from the 60s-90s, yet I never existed in that time frame until 1998. Sure, he may not get things 100% accurate but those are his observations.
|
|
|
Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 5, 2022 9:03:23 GMT 10
You don't have to grow up from the era to know the pop culture trends and changes. I may know many things from the 60s-90s, yet I never existed in that time frame until 1998. Sure, he may not get things 100% accurate but those are his observations. She knows that. She has a weird obsession with trying to troll me constantly by shoving this in my face because I am fond of the 2000s but don't remember much of it.
|
|
|
Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 5, 2022 9:07:13 GMT 10
I 100% agree with the last statement. I might revise the classic 2000s to 2001-2005 but 2000-2005 works as well and the modern 2000s to 2006-2010 (controversial I know) but 2006-2009 also works. I personally find 2000 way too undeveloped to be classic 2000s. People still used VHS tapes, played N64/PS1/Game Boy games, teen pop was still popular, cartoons were still animated traditionally, and many hallmarks of 2000s culture like the Halo and GTA franchises, Shrek, Harry Potter, etc. didn’t exist yet. I would essentially group 2000 with what I guess you could consider the “modern 90s”, but that’s a debate for a whole other time. Conversely, 2009 is way too entrenched in 2010s things like smartphones, microtransaction games, rock isn’t that popular anymore, Obama, among other things to really group with the modern 2000s. Yeah I 100% agree with that. 2000 was absolutely moreso the modern 90s rather than the classic 2000s. WAY too underdeveloped. Especially if you look at Scary Movie 1 and Bring It On as movie references of that year, it still looks like the 90s to me. However, with 2001, that's when I see the true potential for the classic 2000s, especially with all the new franchise movies that came out that year. I definitely think 2009 fits modern 2000s, and unpopular opinion, I think 2010 could fit in there too (but that's iffy).
|
|
|
Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 5, 2022 9:08:52 GMT 10
You don't have to grow up from the era to know the pop culture trends and changes. I may know many things from the 60s-90s, yet I never existed in that time frame until 1998. Sure, he may not get things 100% accurate but those are his observations. She knows that. She has a weird obsession with trying to troll me constantly by shoving this in my face because I am fond of the 2000s but don't remember much of it. Very sad. What year were you born exactly? Just wondering.
|
|
|
Post by astropoug on Apr 5, 2022 9:09:39 GMT 10
2006 is mostly a mid 00s year. 7th gen zeitgeist didn't begin until 2007, sexyback came out but it wasn't until 2007 when electro influences started generally creeping into music. Honestly for the former statement I don’t think he’s wrong. 2006 was essentially a hybrid between 6th and 7th Gen gaming when it came to what was coming out. A lot of third party titles back then were released on both platforms. 2007 is really the first full-fledged year where companies shifted toward predominantly making next-Gen consoles. With certain exceptions like God of War 2, most of the big new games (and not shovelware trash) was coming out for the Xbox 360 and Wii (infamously not the PS3, which was mocked for having no games during its early years). As for the latter, well, it was definitely a gradual process starting in 2006 with Justin Timberlake’s SexyBack and Nelly Furtado’s Loose album. And it really boiled over by 2009 with the rise of Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. That said, 2007 was still a noted year for music, particularly ONE genre: hip-hop. In this year, there was a sale battle between Kanye West and 50 Cent, with Kanye representing more introspective, experimental hip-hop, and 50 Cent representing more aggressive “sex, drugs, and money” type hip-hop. And Kanye won. The album he won with, Graduation, was significant because it introduced electronic elements to the hip-hop genre. After the decline of ringtone rap the following year, hip-hop mostly took on a more electronic futuristic direction with more diverse lyrical themes. It paved the way for the likes of Drake to come along for example.
|
|
|
Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 5, 2022 9:09:55 GMT 10
She knows that. She has a weird obsession with trying to troll me constantly by shoving this in my face because I am fond of the 2000s but don't remember much of it. Very sad. What year were you born exactly? Just wondering. 2000
|
|
|
Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Apr 5, 2022 9:11:28 GMT 10
2006 is mostly a mid 00s year. 7th gen zeitgeist didn't begin until 2007, sexyback came out but it wasn't until 2007 when electro influences started generally creeping into music. bahahahhah love u
|
|
|
Post by John Titor on Apr 5, 2022 9:11:33 GMT 10
2006 is mostly a mid 00s year. 7th gen zeitgeist didn't begin until 2007, sexyback came out but it wasn't until 2007 when electro influences started generally creeping into music. I get that but I wouldn't say 2006 is classic 00's just because it was in the mid 00's. I would say that 2006 was the start of the modern 00's (mostly based on kid culture) because the HSM fandom started with their first movie in January, then Hannah Montana (the quintessential modern 00's kids show) started in March of that year, That's So Raven stopped constantly airing new episodes after 2005 (2003-2005 was their peak) as season 4 didn't have that many episodes and were missing T'Keyah Crystal Keymáh, who played Raven's mom, missing an integral part of the original cast, and brought new characters like Stanley, and Cory being in middle school and such. Stuff like that. Also, the Jonas Brothers broke out that year, starting out the new wave of teen pop, as John Titor mentioned in different thread. 2006 I think was the year rap was on a huge decline compared to what was popular in the classic 00's. This was the first full year WWE SmackDown! was on Friday nights instead of on Thursday nights like they were from 1999-2005, despite being on the same network of UPN, not to mention WWE Raw going back to the USA Network which would remain on to this day (Raw on TNN/Spike is pretty representative of the classic 2000s), and slightly change their stage, as well as WWE bringing back ECW as a show on their product. Despite a lot of shows still being around like Malcolm in the Middle, That 70's Show, and Bernie Mac, they were on a decline, especially the last season of That 70's Show, as the main character was not even there. While I do the 2005-2006 school year was the quintessential peak of the 2000s decade (both numerically and culturally), it was the transition from the classic to modern 00's. I guess the fall portion could be considered classic (even winter 2006 as well) but spring 2006 should go in the modern 2000s category. Despite the 7th gen zeitgeist not happening until sometime in 2007, the 7th gen partially began as the Xbox 360 came out in November 2005, and I would say that was definitely a sign of the modern 2000s, especially as it overshadowed the original XBOX, but it was still passed up by the PS2 and Gamecube. Just a side note, my view of the classic 2000s is not what is the most defining or representative of the decade, but just about the old-school feel or vibe to the decade. The modern 2000s is just that. The modern 2000s. A newer version of it I guess. But then again, this is the perspective of someone who was only 3 during that time so I'd like to hear some other answers on this thread. I will give you my take on this, it's a long one Classic 2000s : Fall 2001 - Spring 2006Despite shows like Malcolm and That 70s show being on the decline, the general atmosphere from Late 2001 and up was still present. 2006 was the peak of Myspace ( which is something included in the core 2000s) and Youtube did not take off until Summer 2006. Emo was still the biggest thing and was showing no signs of decline yet (before Spring 2006) Even tho Disney Teen Pop did pop it's head out it would not fully be felt until during the Summer 06 season. Disney did a ton of advertising with Mall tours and developing their artists fan bases up until Summer 06 and then you started seeing them get heavy promo. As far as Smackdown! the show fell off a cliff after 2003, and became a non event in 2004 and 2005 and even 2006. Only notable things were Eddie Guerrero Dominick Mysterio storyline, Kurt Angle unhinged storyline. The show was on a rapid decline at that point even before the time shift, in 2004 the show was plagued with stupid chracters like Luther Reigns, Mordecai and JBL. As for WWE Raw, they actually were on more cable systems when they switched back to USA from TNN/Spike TV. TNN at the time was not in as many homes as USA Network was. The stage change in 2005 was really not that big.The change was not as drastic as when they actually changed the Raw logo in late 2006. Also might I add Xbox 360 did make a huge splash when it came outbut it didn't really change the whole game yet, it didn't feel like things fully started with 7th gen until 2006, similar feeling with Sega Dreamcast debuting in 1999.
Modern 2000s : Late August 2006 - December 2009
Disney Teen pop was being blasted at full throttle at this time, During the 06-07 year we saw a HEAVY increase of Frutiger Aero in design interfaces, The end of The WB network and the birth of The CW. We also saw the birth of the Scene sub culture which would take over Emo in a few months time. We saw the launch of PS3 and Wii ( even if PS3 flopped until 2009 slim version) Windows Vista was a big shift, and not a good one, we also saw the release of the iphone this school year as well. Oh and Netflix made a big splash in early 2007 as well as Facebook getting popular. By the end of December 2007 it was clear a recession was coming and would have devastating effects to the economy, We also saw the rise of ElectroPop as the recession was happening in real time.
bestmvp29 likes this
|
|
|
Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 5, 2022 9:12:08 GMT 10
What year were you born exactly? Just wondering. 2000 Then you definitely remember enough of the 2000s to know what the era was like firsthand, but it's not even that hard to distinguish the pop cultural changes of each era, whether you were alive or not, as long as you at least pay attention to it. But you would obviously remember more of the mid 2000s than I do haha.
|
|
|
Post by John Titor on Apr 5, 2022 9:12:26 GMT 10
No need to hurl insults at for me showing the people of the forum the reality of you not remembering the 2000s correctly to make such a bold statement.
|
|
|
Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 5, 2022 9:15:02 GMT 10
Then you definitely remember enough of the 2000s to know what the era was like firsthand, but it's not even that hard to distinguish the pop cultural changes of each era, whether you were alive or not, as long as you at least pay attention to it. But you would obviously remember more of the mid 2000s than I do haha. You'd think but unfortunately I only remember in snapshots, it's all a blur to me.
|
|
|
Post by nightmarefarm on Apr 5, 2022 9:17:37 GMT 10
No need to hurl insults at for me showing the people of the forum the reality of you not remembering the 2000s correctly to make such a bold statement. Bestmvp said he was born after me and stated his take on the 2000s but you don't stalk him on every thread to try to provoke him. You're obsessed with me, go away.
|
|
|
Post by 10slover on Apr 5, 2022 9:18:03 GMT 10
2000- 2002 90s-00s transition 2003-2006 classic 2000s 2007 hybrid 2008-2009 modern 00s (dark and digital era) What is 90s about 2002 exactly? By that point, DVDs had become popular, SpongeBob was huge and it’s prime, everybody was playing 6th Gen consoles, web culture like Newgrounds and Homestar Runner was a thing, and it was after 9/11. I just feel like 2002 was a pop culture limbo in a way.
bestmvp29 likes this
|
|
|
Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 5, 2022 9:19:30 GMT 10
I get that but I wouldn't say 2006 is classic 00's just because it was in the mid 00's. I would say that 2006 was the start of the modern 00's (mostly based on kid culture) because the HSM fandom started with their first movie in January, then Hannah Montana (the quintessential modern 00's kids show) started in March of that year, That's So Raven stopped constantly airing new episodes after 2005 (2003-2005 was their peak) as season 4 didn't have that many episodes and were missing T'Keyah Crystal Keymáh, who played Raven's mom, missing an integral part of the original cast, and brought new characters like Stanley, and Cory being in middle school and such. Stuff like that. Also, the Jonas Brothers broke out that year, starting out the new wave of teen pop, as John Titor mentioned in different thread. 2006 I think was the year rap was on a huge decline compared to what was popular in the classic 00's. This was the first full year WWE SmackDown! was on Friday nights instead of on Thursday nights like they were from 1999-2005, despite being on the same network of UPN, not to mention WWE Raw going back to the USA Network which would remain on to this day (Raw on TNN/Spike is pretty representative of the classic 2000s), and slightly change their stage, as well as WWE bringing back ECW as a show on their product. Despite a lot of shows still being around like Malcolm in the Middle, That 70's Show, and Bernie Mac, they were on a decline, especially the last season of That 70's Show, as the main character was not even there. While I do the 2005-2006 school year was the quintessential peak of the 2000s decade (both numerically and culturally), it was the transition from the classic to modern 00's. I guess the fall portion could be considered classic (even winter 2006 as well) but spring 2006 should go in the modern 2000s category. Despite the 7th gen zeitgeist not happening until sometime in 2007, the 7th gen partially began as the Xbox 360 came out in November 2005, and I would say that was definitely a sign of the modern 2000s, especially as it overshadowed the original XBOX, but it was still passed up by the PS2 and Gamecube. Just a side note, my view of the classic 2000s is not what is the most defining or representative of the decade, but just about the old-school feel or vibe to the decade. The modern 2000s is just that. The modern 2000s. A newer version of it I guess. But then again, this is the perspective of someone who was only 3 during that time so I'd like to hear some other answers on this thread. I will give you my take on this, it's a long one Classic 2000s : Fall 2001 - Spring 2006Despite shows like Malcolm and That 70s show being on the decline, the general atmosphere from Late 2001 and up was still present. 2006 was the peak of Myspace ( which is something included in the core 2000s) and Youtube did not take off until Summer 2006. Emo was still the biggest thing and was showing no signs of decline yet (before Spring 2006) Even tho Disney Teen Pop did pop it's head out it would not fully be felt until during the Summer 06 season. Disney did a ton of advertising with Mall tours and developing their artists fan bases up until Summer 06 and then you started seeing them get heavy promo. As far as Smackdown! the show fell off a cliff after 2003, and became a non event in 2004 and 2005 and even 2006. Only notable things were Eddie Guerrero Dominick Mysterio storyline, Kurt Angle unhinged storyline. The show was on a rapid decline at that point even before the time shift, in 2004 the show was plagued with stupid chracters like Luther Reigns, Mordecai and JBL. As for WWE Raw, they actually were on more cable systems when they switched back to USA from TNN/Spike TV. TNN at the time was not in as many homes as USA Network was. The stage change in 2005 was really not that big.The change was not as drastic as when they actually changed the Raw logo in late 2006. Also might I add Xbox 360 did make a huge splash when it came outbut it didn't really change the whole game yet, it didn't feel like things fully started with 7th gen until 2006, similar feeling with Sega Dreamcast debuting in 1999.
Modern 2000s : Late August 2006 - December 2009
Disney Teen pop was being blasted at full throttle at this time, During the 06-07 year we saw a HEAVY increase of Frutiger Aero in design interfaces, The end of The WB network and the birth of The CW. We also saw the birth of the Scene sub culture which would take over Emo in a few months time. We saw the launch of PS3 and Wii ( even if PS3 flopped until 2009 slim version) Windows Vista was a big shift, and not a good one, we also saw the release of the iphone this school year as well. Oh and Netflix made a big splash in early 2007 as well as Facebook getting popular. By the end of December 2007 it was clear a recession was coming and would have devastating effects to the economy, We also saw the rise of ElectroPop as the recession was happening in real time.I definitely like this take. And about WWE, another reason why 2006 should be considered modern 2000s is that Edge became the new #1 heel in the company as Triple H was transitioning into a tweener and then full on babyface by May when he reunited with HBK for their mid-late 2006 DX run. But yeah that's true. Monday Night Raw didn't have a significant change until the fall of that year with the new logo design, intro, and theme song, replacing the beloved Underground Nation song that defined the classic 00's Monday night programming. And also, legends such as Kurt Angle, Lita and Trish Stratus left the company and new stars such as CM Punk, Kelly Kelly, Layla, Cryme Tyme, and The Miz debuted on the main roster. 2006 is definitely in that gray area, along with 2005 with the cutoff for the classic 2000s but I think overall 2006 leans modern 2000s. But I think most of us would agree with late 2006 at least being on that modern 2000s end. From your timeline, it looks like the summer of 2006 would be the shift since that's in neither era.
|
|
|
Post by bestmvp29 on Apr 5, 2022 9:21:37 GMT 10
What is 90s about 2002 exactly? By that point, DVDs had become popular, SpongeBob was huge and it’s prime, everybody was playing 6th Gen consoles, web culture like Newgrounds and Homestar Runner was a thing, and it was after 9/11. I just feel like 2002 was a pop culture limbo in a way. Yeah, while I do think 2002 was definitely in the classic 2000s category and peak early 2000s, it definitely felt like a pop culture limbo to a degree as most people would say the Y2K era ended by that time (or at the zeitgeist of it) but so many core, defining 2000s trends, events, or people didn't happen or blow up until at least 2003.
|
|