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Post by rainbow on Apr 8, 2018 12:36:24 GMT 10
I personally think the cultural 2010's started right on time. 2009 felt like the perfect mixture of both 2000's and early 2010's culture IMO. However, the year 2010 itself was already pretty firmly early 2010's, with electropop and the release of the first iPad and emo being almost dead. Many would say that 2008, specifically the latter part, was the start of early 2010's, however, 2008 was more like the peak of late 2000's culture rather than the start of early 2010's. Even though Obama won the 2008 Election, he didn't actually become the president until 2009, not to mention 2008 was the last full year Myspace was still pretty popular.
What do you think? What decades started culturally on time with their chronological start?
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Post by TheUser98 on Apr 8, 2018 19:22:02 GMT 10
I'd say the 40s and 80s culturally started on time. By the start of 1940, WW2 had already began, and in 1980 you already had new wave, post-disco and the Soviet-Afghan war.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 10, 2018 11:53:43 GMT 10
I think the only decades which you could make a strong case for culturally starting on time are the 1920s and 1940s.
1980 may have had new-wave and post-disco, but it also had several prominent '70s influences as well. Yacht-rock was still popular, Gen Jones were still the main demographic for pop culture, MTV had yet to launch and depending on where you live, Disco was still a movement until the end of the year. I personally don't think the '80s truly established themselves until at least 1982.
The 2010s are hard to judge, because I remember Late 2009 - Early 2011 as being somewhat of a cultural era in it's own right. I think Early/Mid 2011 was when the 2010s truly established themselves and 2000s influences were predominantly phased out.
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Post by #Infinity on Apr 10, 2018 12:52:08 GMT 10
I think the only decades which you could make a strong case for culturally starting on time are the 1920s and 1940s. I would definitely add the 1930s to that list because with the Great Depression starting in October 1929, the effects became truly widespread beginning in 1930, and also, sound films overtook silent movies as standard in Hollywood in 1930 after their late '20s introduction. I definitely agree with those points, however if you lived in the UK in particular, I think the case is actually much stronger that the '80s started on time. Synthpop, new wave, second-wave ska, and post-disco all took off quite rapidly there in late 1979, with the watered-down '70s-style music being less prominent than in America or Australia. Not to mention, Fawlty Towers concluded around the same time, even though Yes Minister and Only Fools and Horses didn't premiere until a bit later. Furthermore, Margaret Thatcher became the Prime Minister in May 1979, beginning an uninterrupted 18-year streak of Tory control of Parliament and also shaping the' 80s political zeitgeist sooner than in the US. It's actually easy to argue that the '80s started slightly early in the UK, but there's enough of a balance of elements that on-time is an intuitive enough definition. Yeah, a lot of that culture looks much more retro today than I thought it would have initially. It seemed like the 2010s had established a distinct identity pretty quickly at the time, just because of how much of a shock things like Obama's election, the Great Recession, and Lady Gaga felt back then, but in hindsight, the 2010s as a whole have been more firmly established by things that took off more in 2010 and 2011, like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, touchscreen phones and tablet devices, live action fairytale blockbuster reboots (i.e., Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland), trap music, Netflix, and Game of Thrones.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Apr 10, 2018 22:30:08 GMT 10
I would definitely add the 1930s to that list because with the Great Depression starting in October 1929, the effects became truly widespread beginning in 1930, and also, sound films overtook silent movies as standard in Hollywood in 1930 after their late '20s introduction. I agree. Admittedly, I didn't really give the 1930s much of a thought when I made my earlier post. You're right though, the 1930s could definitely be added to the list of decades that culturally started right on time. Yep, I agree that the 1980s culturally started on time in the UK. I guess that is also one aspect to consider when discussing this topic, considering the fact that the way in which decades establish themselves varies from country to country. I think it's telling that the world of 2010 is quite distinguishable from the present time, despite the fact that many people regard the former as being very similar (if not, identical) to the pop culture of today. It's interesting to read your perception of the era at the time, because I didn't feel as though we had entered into a new decade until about Early/Mid 2011. In retrospect, the world of 2010 really wasn't all that different from the Late 2000s, particularly the later part. Smartphones didn't truly explode in popularity until Mid 2011 (at least in my area), meaning that many people still relied on Nokia phones, Blackberrys and slider phones during 2010. Digital cameras were still widely used to take photos, rather than mobile phone devices. Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead may have premiered in 2010, but they were not critically acclaimed or influential as soon as they went on the air. Popular Top-40 artists at the time, such as The Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, P!nk and Beyonce, were all successful for quite a number of years during the 2000s. While I would agree that 2010 was predominantly geared more towards 2010s culture than it was with the 2000s, I would be reluctant in regarding it as being a sole 2010s cultural year. As you touched upon, there were a lot of definitive elements of 2010s pop culture which had either yet to emerge or were still developing at the time.
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Post by mwalker96 on Apr 11, 2018 0:06:38 GMT 10
I guess it varies from country to country. In the US smartphones were pretty big in 2010. A lot of kids at my school were getting touchscreen phones. It was in 2010 when 4G became widely available with the release of the Sprint Evo (I still remember seeing the commercial for that phone like it was yesterday), but Blackberries were still big which makes 2010 automatically dated. Blackberries were big until late 2011, by 2012 it was all android and ios.
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