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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 12, 2018 17:31:51 GMT 10
It wouldn't be unreasonable for someone to come to the natural conclusion that the 2010s will age better, since they are obviously more recent than the 2000s. However, I personally don't think the answer to the question is clear-cut and I believe you could make a strong case for either decade as aging better than the other. What is your opinion on this? Do you think the 2000s will age better or the 2010s?
Even though I personally think the 2010s will one day be remembered as being a very "cheesy" decade (much in the vein of the 1980s), I think the 2010s will generally age a lot better than the 2000s. I actually think the 2000s will, in about 50 years time, be remembered as being the decade which bridged the 20th Century with the 21st Century. Here are a few reasons as to why I believe that will be the case:
* As of 2018, the 2000s were the last decade in which rock was a significant cultural force in the mainstream. * High-definition and widescreen picture format only became standard at the end of the decade, and even then, there were still music videos and television shows being filmed in 4:3 ratio in 2009. * People still largely relied on physical media (e.g CDs, DVDs) to consume entertainment. * At the beginning of the decade, just 31% of the developed world had access to the internet. This accelerated to 63% in 2009.
That mindset will only make the 2000s seem more antiqued and aesthetically outdated, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 2:23:56 GMT 10
No clear idea on this, Shark, as I am too old for pop culture and it goes straight over my head!
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Post by longaotian on Oct 13, 2018 8:27:11 GMT 10
Its kind of hard to explain but while theres no doubt that the 2000s will seem older in the future, I feel like they will age better with time than the 2010s if that makes any sense.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 13, 2018 13:26:11 GMT 10
Its kind of hard to explain but while theres no doubt that the 2000s will seem older in the future, I feel like they will age better with time than the 2010s if that makes any sense. Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm interested to know, why do you think the 2010s will age worse than the 2000s?
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Post by longaotian on Oct 13, 2018 15:16:01 GMT 10
Its kind of hard to explain but while theres no doubt that the 2000s will seem older in the future, I feel like they will age better with time than the 2010s if that makes any sense. Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm interested to know, why do you think the 2010s will age worse than the 2000s? I don't really know to be honest, I feel like alot of 2010s trends really are going to be unique to the decade. Like the 10s kind of reflect the 1980s in a way. For some reason the pop culture of those decades seem really flashy, materialistic and based off short lived trends, whereas the 2000s (while they were still materialistic), seemed alot more toned down overall (90s aswell). Internet trends like the running man or In my feelings challenge, dog snapchat filters, over saturated and repetitve edm and trap music, fashion trends like the man bun, teen dystopian and superhero movies everywhere, slang like lit, bae and on fleek, app crazes like flappy bird and Pokemon go, Trumps total dominance in the media...Its just not gonna go down well in 2028. I could be wrong but.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 13, 2018 16:31:57 GMT 10
I don't really know to be honest, I feel like alot of 2010s trends really are going to be unique to the decade. Like the 10s kind of reflect the 1980s in a way. For some reason the pop culture of those decades seem really flashy, materialistic and based off short lived trends, whereas the 2000s (while they were still materialistic), seemed alot more toned down overall (90s aswell). Internet trends like the running man or In my feelings challenge, dog snapchat filters, over saturated and repetitve edm and trap music, fashion trends like the man bun, teen dystopian and superhero movies everywhere, slang like lit, bae and on fleek, app crazes like flappy bird and Pokemon go, Trumps total dominance in the media...Its just not gonna go down well in 2028. I could be wrong but. That's a fair point. I can definitely see your point of view and I do agree that the 2010s will likely be perceived in the same way that the 1980s are perceived now. The only reason as to why I lean more towards the 2010s generally aging better, is because the 2000s arguably had far more ties with the 20th Century decades (e.g rock's popularity in the mainstream) and I believe those connections/ties will become more apparent as time goes on. It may even be viewed as being like a 20th Century decade in the next fifty years or so. Even though the majority of the fads/trends of the 2010s will likely be phased out as the decade comes to a close, I can see things like EDM, Superhero movies (particularly the MCU) and social media trends continuing on well into the 2020s and possibly even the 2030s. EDM will likely continue on in the mainstream and mold into something else, IMO. If that is to be the case, it will make the 2010s seem much more relatable and identifiable to the present time. It's hard to say what could happen.
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Post by longaotian on Oct 13, 2018 18:23:36 GMT 10
I don't really know to be honest, I feel like alot of 2010s trends really are going to be unique to the decade. Like the 10s kind of reflect the 1980s in a way. For some reason the pop culture of those decades seem really flashy, materialistic and based off short lived trends, whereas the 2000s (while they were still materialistic), seemed alot more toned down overall (90s aswell). Internet trends like the running man or In my feelings challenge, dog snapchat filters, over saturated and repetitve edm and trap music, fashion trends like the man bun, teen dystopian and superhero movies everywhere, slang like lit, bae and on fleek, app crazes like flappy bird and Pokemon go, Trumps total dominance in the media...Its just not gonna go down well in 2028. I could be wrong but. That's a fair point. I can definitely see your point of view and I do agree that the 2010s will likely be perceived in the same way that the 1980s are perceived now. The only reason as to why I lean more towards the 2010s generally aging better, is because the 2000s arguably had far more ties with the 20th Century decades (e.g rock's popularity in the mainstream) and I believe those connections/ties will become more apparent as time goes on. It may even be viewed as being like a 20th Century decade in the next fifty years or so. Oh yeah for sure. As you pointed out, things like the continued popularity of rock music and use of physical media will almost certainly give the 2000s a sort of late 20th century look as we move on. I think you could even make the argument that 2008/9 were the first years we had truly entered the 21st century.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 23, 2018 17:27:51 GMT 10
I'm surprised by the results, to be honest. I would have thought that more people would vote for the 2010s.
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Post by longaotian on Oct 24, 2018 9:02:52 GMT 10
I'm surprised by the results, to be honest. I would have thought that more people would vote for the 2010s. Well ive already pointed out as to why I think the 2000s will age better
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Post by #Infinity on Oct 24, 2018 9:38:57 GMT 10
I feel like the over-the-top attitudes, rancid politics, distinct fashion, and generally narrower culture of the 2010s will look like something of a bygone era by the time the decade has faded enough from memory. The 2000s, on the other hand, were much more cosmopolitan and laid back, not to mention the fashion was not really as obviously defined aside from bushy hair being common with guys. In generally, periods with less intense politics and a greater acceptance of diverse taste and style tend to age much better than those that are more collective. Sure, the digital aesthetics of the 2000s look old today due to HD video not being standard and interfaces relying much more on metallic and bevel effects, but for the most part, the decade's culture still feels very fresh today.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Oct 24, 2018 10:19:19 GMT 10
but for the most part, the decade's culture still feels very fresh today. Maybe my perception of the decade's relevance can simply be as a result of my age, but personally, I would actually have to say the opposite. I personally think the pop culture of the naughties feels noticeably dated, for the most part. Most of the trends that went onto define the decade have been out of the limelight for several years now, such as the Emo scene, certain fashion trends (e.g frosted tips, baggy jeans), many of the decade's most popular television shows, as well as obsolete forms of technology (e.g MP3's, flip phones).
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Post by mwalker96 on Nov 12, 2018 7:58:05 GMT 10
but for the most part, the decade's culture still feels very fresh today. Maybe my perception of the decade's relevance can simply be as a result of my age, but personally, I would actually have to say the opposite. I personally think the pop culture of the naughties feels noticeably dated, for the most part. Most of the trends that went onto define the decade have been out of the limelight for several years now, such as the Emo scene, certain fashion trends (e.g frosted tips, baggy jeans), many of the decade's most popular television shows, as well as obsolete forms of technology (e.g MP3's, flip phones). I kinda agree with you on this one @sharksfan99. The 00s has so much ties with the 20th country were as the 10s is trying to remove all things that were popular in the later half of the 20th country (e.g television, physical media, phonebooks, landlines). That's why it makes me so mad when people mix the 00s with the 10s because people are far more tech-savvy in the 10s then they were in the 00s. Back in the 2000s most people over 40 were clueless on modern technology nowadays you have 60 year olds who are well-versed in technology. Parents today are more likely to have grown up playing video games and listened to rap music than they were in the 00s since most parents rasing kids are Gen xers while in the 00s bombers were the main generation of parents. Everyone has a quality camera nowadays thanks to smartphones, It's more cool now to be a nerd than ever before, being famous no longer requires gatekeepets which makes this decade different from the previous.
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Post by Telso on Nov 12, 2018 23:23:11 GMT 10
I kinda agree with you on this one @sharksfan99. The 00s has so much ties with the 20th country were as the 10s is trying to remove all things that were popular in the later half of the 20th country (e.g television, physical media, phonebooks, landlines). That's why it makes me so mad when people mix the 00s with the 10s because people are far more tech-savvy in the 10s then they were in the 00s. Back in the 2000s most people over 40 were clueless on modern technology nowadays you have 60 year olds who are well-versed in technology. Parents today are more likely to have grown up playing video games and listened to rap music than they were in the 00s since most parents rasing kids are Gen xers while in the 00s bombers were the main generation of parents. Everyone has a quality camera nowadays thanks to smartphones, It's more cool now to be a nerd than ever before, being famous no longer requires gatekeepets which makes this decade different from the previous. You keep repeating about that 20th country, looks like a nice place to the travel to
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 16, 2018 16:05:10 GMT 10
I kinda agree with you on this one @sharksfan99. The 00s has so much ties with the 20th country were as the 10s is trying to remove all things that were popular in the later half of the 20th country (e.g television, physical media, phonebooks, landlines). That's why it makes me so mad when people mix the 00s with the 10s because people are far more tech-savvy in the 10s then they were in the 00s. Back in the 2000s most people over 40 were clueless on modern technology nowadays you have 60 year olds who are well-versed in technology. Parents today are more likely to have grown up playing video games and listened to rap music than they were in the 00s since most parents rasing kids are Gen xers while in the 00s bombers were the main generation of parents. Everyone has a quality camera nowadays thanks to smartphones, It's more cool now to be a nerd than ever before, being famous no longer requires gatekeepets which makes this decade different from the previous. I agree. For some reason, most people seem to recognise the 2000s and 2010s as being one big, collective era, rather than two separate decades with their own unique identities. It's unusual that it is the case. I mean, it has been almost 19 years since the year 2000, it's not as if we have only just entered the new millennium. I don't get it. Can't say that I've heard of the Bomber generation before. They must be a very violent group of people.
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Post by Telso on Nov 16, 2018 21:21:12 GMT 10
I agree. For some reason, most people seem to recognise the 2000s and 2010s as being one big, collective era, rather than two separate decades with their own unique identities. It's unusual that it is the case. I mean, it has been almost 19 years since the year 2000, it's not as if we have only just entered the new millennium. I don't get it. Was the case in like 2013-14, but I honestly rarely see people doing that nowadays. I always see people calling it "the thousands", the noughties or even the "early 2000s" referring actually to the whole decade (weird, but it's better than nothing). I heard those terms plenty of times in class or on tv, so it's not just an online thing In fact, I'm pretty sure most people at this point would agree to call the early 2000s retro and the mid-late 2000s a bygone era.
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