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Post by Cassie on Jan 5, 2019 5:51:41 GMT 10
Do you guys have any visions of what the 2020s will be like? I have some: Technology will take huge steps, and the advances will feel futuristic 2000s nostalgia will hit it's peak around the mid-2010s and start to rise in the early 2020s EDM and trap will fall from grace
Greedy game developers like EA and Activision will lose millions
That's all I can think of
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 5, 2019 14:47:00 GMT 10
Nice idea for a thread.  It will be interesting to look back on this thread in another two or three years and see how accurate we were. Here are a few things I have in mind: 2020:* Kanye West will run for Presidency in 2020 as a member of the Republican Party. I know he announced on Twitter that he wouldn't run for Presidency until 2024, but I think his recent visit to the White House will only encourage him to pursue it sooner. * The Imagine Dragons will have their last big hit in 2020. * Top-40 music will become more pop-rock/country influenced. I'm not sure why, but I just get the sense that Top-40 music is shifting more in a direction of songs such as "Shallow", "In My Blood" and "Meant To Be". I think music will generally be more minimalist and not as flamboyant and homogeneous as what 2010s music has been. I also think that there will be a bit more variety on the charts and real instruments (e.g guitars, drums) will become more prominent in pop releases. * "Fast and Furious 9" will be one of the Top-5 best-performing movies at the box office in 2020, as will "Godzilla vs Kong", "Wonder Woman 1984", "Top Gun: Maverick" and "Avatar 2". * North Korea and South Korea will compete as "Korea" at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. * The Democrats will win the 2020 US Election. * Mid 2000's nostalgia will become more prominent. People will be expressing their fondness for things like Green Day's American Idiot album, Kim Possible, Emo and "Mean Girls". I think Mid 2000s pop culture will be referenced in some new pop releases next year as well. As for the decade in general: 2020s:* Technology won't accelerate in development until around 2025 or 2026. I think the Early 2020s will largely be defined by forms of technology which already exist today, the only real differences being foldable smartphones and 5G. * Self-driving cars won't start to become commonplace until the Late 2020s (i'm thinking around 2028). * The pop-culture of the 2020s will be more "earthy" and minimalist, while also being sleek and futuristic. * One Direction will reunite sometime in the 2020s and will release a new single. I hope not, but if The Backstreet Boys have done it (twice)... I'll think of more predictions later.
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Post by al on Jan 18, 2019 13:12:43 GMT 10
I've been really seeing maximalism and reduced formality in design coming for a while, and I thought it was interesting to find it stated as a trend. blog.etsy.com/en/2019-trends/ I think as life has become more "staged" in some respects, a la social media, we will in reverse continue to see things get more casual offline. Things like making the bed, having matching towels, etc. will matter less with an increased focus on authenticity. This sort of attitude lends itself to other areas of life, particularly with clothing and in personal style, as I'm predicting "rules" to become increasingly passè. With an open archive, the idea of what is fashionable or acceptable will continue to expand. Diversity in product lines, how the products are sold, and in who represents them will be important. With everything so accessible, there will be no excuse other than monetary to settle for less when it comes to goods and services. Retail will thrive and shutter at once. More once iconic brands will die. Those who cannot adapt to consumer desires nor innovate quickly enough and take risks will be out of business. The economy will likely have a good period and people will be ready to spend, but they will have become very picky. With obesity and other health issues on the rise, food quality will become more of a public concern. Soda sales will slump and fast food chains will close locations. Rebranding will not work because they have lost the public's trust. More government "secrets" will come out. Technology will stall. Urban areas will continue to gentrify and even aid in food production as the suburbs decay. Advertising will be everywhere. More "a la carte" structured pricing. Cheaper prices but no extras. The Greatest Generation will stick around. A few of them. 100 will be the new 80.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 18, 2019 22:38:56 GMT 10
I've been really seeing maximalism and reduced formality in design coming for a while, and I thought it was interesting to find it stated as a trend. blog.etsy.com/en/2019-trends/ I think as life has become more "staged" in some respects, a la social media, we will in reverse continue to see things get more casual offline. Things like making the bed, having matching towels, etc. will matter less with an increased focus on authenticity. This sort of attitude lends itself to other areas of life, particularly with clothing and in personal style, as I'm predicting "rules" to become increasingly passè. With an open archive, the idea of what is fashionable or acceptable will continue to expand. Diversity in product lines, how the products are sold, and in who represents them will be important. I think the political correctness that we've witnessed over the past few years is only the beginning of the changes that are likely to occur in the not too distant future, but it will inevitably have a shelf life. As technology continues to make common household chores redundant, it will also render residual, archaic gender stereotypes from previous decades obsolete, such as the mindset of women being responsible for the cooking, cleaning etc. That disparity among the two genders will no longer exist as technology will complete those tasks without any human intervention... ...and I believe that will extend to other day to day tasks in life as well, such as the examples you gave. It will definitely change the way in which companies market and perceive the products in which they are trying to sell, because the prejudice between genders will no longer exist. In regards to clothing and personal style, who knows, it's quite possible that cross-dressing may even become a social norm in the long-term. Not that i'm advocating for it or anything, but with the way in which PC-warriors are trying to break down the differences between the two genres, i'm expecting it to happen at some point. General aesthetics and designs will almost certainly become more neutral as time goes on. There will always be differences in viewpoints among people and conservatism will likely still prevail despite the social progressiveness that has already or is yet to occur, although the political correctness that we're witnessing now will ultimately break down the last remaining archaic ways of thinking which are holding us back and result in future generations having a completely different set of values in terms of perceiving things which are currently taboo. I personally think we've been in a technological slump for at least the past five years or so and I believe this trend will likely continue on for most of the 2020s. There just isn't anything on the horizon that will change the way people go about their lives, IMO. I mean, I know 5G technology is expected to be rolled out in the next 12-24 months, but I have my doubts that it will be the so-called "revolution" that tech companies are promising, at least not initially. I think forms of technology which are already in existence will go onto define the 2020s, with the only major differences being foldable smartphones, a "9th Generation" of video-game consoles and faster internet speeds. I'm not sure what your thoughts are on this, but I don't really think that there will be any new significant developments in technology until about the Late 2020s, which is when I predict self-driving cars will start to be released into the market and further progress will be made in developing virtual reality. Until about say, 2028 or 2029, I think we will just see revisions of current forms of technology, such as new and improved smartphones (perhaps with new design interfaces). I doubt that we will be able to communicate via hologram projections anytime soon.  Yep. I actually think urban agriculture will really start to take off in the next 5-10 years. It's still in it's early stages at the moment, but more people are beginning to realise the benefits that urban agriculture would bring. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if skyscrapers in places like New York City and Los Angeles are fitted with roof-top farms and vegetable gardens by the end of the 2020s. I agree with this. For instance, today is actually Betty White's birthday and she has just turned 97 years old. Yet, despite this, she is still in very good health and regularly stars in new Hollywood productions. I actually think the perception of aging has changed significantly since the 2000s, to be honest. A decade ago, someone making it into their '90s was considered to be really rare and the '80s were generally thought of as being the age bracket where most people pass on. Nowadays, however, someone living into their '90s is almost to be expected. I think attitudes towards aging will change again in the 2020s.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 0:25:16 GMT 10
Prediction #1 for the 2020s: That nostalgia will be a big thing in Sydney for at least the first few years of the new decade.
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Post by al on Jan 19, 2019 13:10:55 GMT 10
I think the political correctness that we've witnessed over the past few years is only the beginning of the changes that are likely to occur in the not too distant future, but it will inevitably have a shelf life. As technology continues to make common household chores redundant, it will also render residual, archaic gender stereotypes from previous decades obsolete, such as the mindset of women being responsible for the cooking, cleaning etc. That disparity among the two genders will no longer exist as technology will complete those tasks without any human intervention... ...and I believe that will extend to other day to day tasks in life as well, such as the examples you gave. It will definitely change the way in which companies market and perceive the products in which they are trying to sell, because the prejudice between genders will no longer exist. In regards to clothing and personal style, who knows, it's quite possible that cross-dressing may even become a social norm in the long-term. Not that i'm advocating for it or anything, but with the way in which PC-warriors are trying to break down the differences between the two genres, i'm expecting it to happen at some point. General aesthetics and designs will almost certainly become more neutral as time goes on. There will always be differences in viewpoints among people and conservatism will likely still prevail despite the social progressiveness that has already or is yet to occur, although the political correctness that we're witnessing now will ultimately break down the last remaining archaic ways of thinking which are holding us back and result in future generations having a completely different set of values in terms of perceiving things which are currently taboo. I don't know if I ever see the concept of "conservatism" going away and I don't think that's inherently bad. But it will change with the times, just as liberalism does. A century ago, it was still controversial for women or poc to vote. Today, gay marriage seems to be tolerated by the bulk of religious and political conservatives in the US, when it really wasn't even just in the 00's. As individuals and a society at large, we get used to things gradually as we see and hear about them. By that point, most stop having such a strong opinion about them, at least when they're not directly involved. Right now we're in an exposure phase when it comes to gender, but I think we will ultimately stop hearing about it once the public has accepted the "new rules" enough. Will necessarily everybody ever like them? No. But sexism and its counterparts will likely become thenew taboo, that along with racism, you just don't touch with a ten foot pole. That said, I think the general consensus for the public will be that they just doesn't care. About what people wear, how they want to represent themselves, their family dynamic, what they do, etc. Yeah people will always meddle with those in their personal lives. But randoms? Who has time for that? And that's the biggest reason why. Not necessarily out of love and tolerance, rather self -absorption. There's enough to occupy people otherwise, and it's getting too easy to get caught. Nevermind we see too much, little is novel or surprising anymore. What's so funny anymore about a person's outfit when you see far more outlandish online? Who cares that the family down the street has two dads when so do the most popular sitcoms? Who notices a plus size girl at the beach in a bikini when someone her size advertises them? Hopefully we'll at least have some benefits to reap from the madness that can be PC. I have to agree on this. I think we're in the midst of an "era" right now that isn't close to ending, and marketers are really reaching for a repeat of 09-12. VR, self-driving cars, 5G, etc., are all very "fetch" for me at the moment. Not that they're "not happening", rather that few are particularly excited nor even trusting of them. And particularly in the case of the cars, we absolutely need to have the technology improved and appropriate infrastructure installed before we dare roll out anything this revolutionary and potentially dangerous. It's not the same as releasing a half-assed crummy smartphone circa 2008. Speaking of which, I recently heard on the news that Apple's new phone releases underperformed. For perhaps the first time ever? I know a few of us have been discussing this, that the phones are just not enough of an upgrade to justify their high price tag. They've reached their maturity stage and phasing the older models out is imo their most successful strategy at the moment. I don't see Apple remaining so untouchable into the next decade. They'll be fine, I'm sure, but I think other companies are going to sneak up on them. Where we're at, in terms of technology, is that overall we need to work out the bugs of what we've already got. Capabilities and ease of use still has a long way to go before I realistically see another revolution. We're still adjusting to how our lifestyles have changed, and businesses are still trying to adapt to that. I think bartering will be back. I also see more government involvement and regulation, unfortunately mostly in form of fees and taxation. Attitudes on aging are gonna start changing rapid fire I think. The true "geriatrics" are going to be the 90+ crowd unless their health is otherwise compromised. And the 70's will be seen as an active decade. "Old people taste" as a concept will die as long as enough aspects of boomer culture remain en vogue (and I think they will). "Grandma" already likely doesn't mean for kids born today what it did even for recent generations.
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Post by Telso on Jan 21, 2019 8:30:23 GMT 10
I don't think technology has stagnated in the last few years. Since the mid-2010s AIs have been in every aspect of daily life in the developed world, appearing in everything from search engines, to speech recognition, stock trading, real estate transactions, movie suggestions, control systems, etc. This all occurred thanks to renewed interest/research in Artificial Neural Networks in the early 2010s, and the massive increases in computing power that occurred over the decade. It's just that we don't have pretty visuals to emphasize it like shining new designs when like it comes to smartphones.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Jan 29, 2019 18:46:57 GMT 10
I don't know if I ever see the concept of "conservatism" going away and I don't think that's inherently bad. But it will change with the times, just as liberalism does. A century ago, it was still controversial for women or poc to vote. Today, gay marriage seems to be tolerated by the bulk of religious and political conservatives in the US, when it really wasn't even just in the 00's. As individuals and a society at large, we get used to things gradually as we see and hear about them. By that point, most stop having such a strong opinion about them, at least when they're not directly involved. Right now we're in an exposure phase when it comes to gender, but I think we will ultimately stop hearing about it once the public has accepted the "new rules" enough. Will necessarily everybody ever like them? No. But sexism and its counterparts will likely become thenew taboo, that along with racism, you just don't touch with a ten foot pole. That said, I think the general consensus for the public will be that they just doesn't care. About what people wear, how they want to represent themselves, their family dynamic, what they do, etc. Yeah people will always meddle with those in their personal lives. But randoms? Who has time for that? And that's the biggest reason why. Not necessarily out of love and tolerance, rather self -absorption. There's enough to occupy people otherwise, and it's getting too easy to get caught. Nevermind we see too much, little is novel or surprising anymore. What's so funny anymore about a person's outfit when you see far more outlandish online? Who cares that the family down the street has two dads when so do the most popular sitcoms? Who notices a plus size girl at the beach in a bikini when someone her size advertises them? Hopefully we'll at least have some benefits to reap from the madness that can be PC. Sorry for the delayed response. I was going to respond to your post a few days ago, but I just didn't get around to doing so.  Anyhow, I agree with the points you raised and the idea that conservatism will evolve with the times. It will be interesting to see if conservatism will continue to remain prominent in the media over the next couple of decades, or if it will start to exist purely as something that is subdued in the background and not given the light of day. I actually think that the rise of Neo-Nazis in recent years is partially in the form of a response to the momentum that liberalism has been gaining over the past decade (i.e same-sex marriage, Barrack Obama becoming President). It's as if the right-wing extremists realise that once liberalism takes over the media and governance of the world, their right-wing views will not be able to keep up with the pace of technology and social progress (which I tend to think will happen). It's a retaliation. Yep, that's what I believe will happen as well. I think you will still get a small minority who will hold onto the values of the past and judge people for their differing interests/tastes, but the vast majority of the public won't batten an eyelid over the thought of a child having same-sex parents, a man wearing women's clothing etc. There will always be some lowlifes who find joy out of putting others down, and despite a social climate that will condone that type of behaviour, it will unfortunately still manifest in some communications in day-to-day life. However, at least one positive aspect about that scenario is that the people responsible for the behaviour will be less likely to get away with it. With all that said, I personally tend to think that we are several decades off from achieving that reality. We will most likely see further progress in the evolution of social values during the 2020s, but honestly, it probably won't be until at least the 2050s or 2060s when we will live in a world where those core values are a reality. I think it's because there is a growing consensus among the public that the forms of technology which exist today are adequate in serving all of our needs and we don't need any further advancements. I know that there has even been somewhat of a backlash developing against social media over the past couple of years, because campaigns advocating for people to "switch off" have become more prevalent in the media and some sites have reported a decrease in the number of people using their platform. I just think it's hard for people to hold much enthusiasm for 5G and the roll-out of self-driving cars, when the social and mental impacts smartphone technology have had on us have yet to really be addressed. I agree that the infrastructure and technology used for developing self-driving cars needs to be perfected before they are made available to the public. I hope i'm proven wrong over this, but I worry that the initial roll-out of self-driving cars will be a complete disaster. There's no guarantee that these cars will have no mishaps or faults when they are first being sold in car dealerships. There could very well be many fatalities during those first few weeks/months. Like I said, I really hope that my prediction doesn't turn out true, but I do have my skepticism about it.  Yep. It wouldn't surprise me if Hauwei remained as the 2nd-best seller of smartphone devices for most of the 2020s. Who knows, maybe Apple will make some sort of a comeback and become the best selling brand again, however it's not looking likely at the moment. I don't think technology has stagnated in the last few years. Since the mid-2010s AIs have been in every aspect of daily life in the developed world, appearing in everything from search engines, to speech recognition, stock trading, real estate transactions, movie suggestions, control systems, etc. This all occurred thanks to renewed interest/research in Artificial Neural Networks in the early 2010s, and the massive increases in computing power that occurred over the decade. It's just that we don't have pretty visuals to emphasize it like shining new designs when like it comes to smartphones. Is the way in which people go about their lives really all that different from 2013 though? In 2013, smartphone app culture and social media were firmly established, streaming services were around, smartphone devices had made feature phones obsolete, and things such as "selfies" and #hashtags were common activities in day-to-day life. The difference between 2013 and 2019 is nowhere near as extreme as 2003-2009, for instance. If I were to travel back to 2013 and take note of the technology that was around at the time, I personally wouldn't get a shock from it. In fact, it would just be like living in the present time. I still think AI technology is in it's infancy at this point in time. It may already be having an impact on the administration and financial sectors, but it hasn't yet become widely embraced by the general population. Most people don't own a Google Home device, nor do they have an AI personal assistant to complete household tasks. The technology is on track to influence every aspect of daily life, sure, however I don't think we will start to see the true influence of artificial intelligence for at least another 5-10 years. It's still early stages at the moment.
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It will be interesting to look back on this thread in another two or three years and see how accurate we were. Here are a few things I have in mind:
