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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 3:45:46 GMT 10
Shape of You and Like a G6 come to mind.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 15, 2018 14:43:42 GMT 10
Shape of You and Like a G6 come to mind. I'm not a fan of "Shape of You" either, although i'm not sure if I would personally regard it as being one of the worst songs of the decade. There are plenty of other songs which would be in that category. What do you think of Ed Sheeran's other songs? As for "Like a G6", i'm not familiar with that song, but since it was released in the 2010s, i'm just going to presume that it's crap anyway.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 15, 2018 15:26:01 GMT 10
Shape of You and Like a G6 come to mind. I'm not a fan of "Shape of You" either, although i'm not sure if I would personally regard it as being one of the worst songs of the decade. There are plenty of other songs which would be in that category. What do you think of Ed Sheeran's other songs? As for "Like a G6", i'm not familiar with that song, but since it was released in the 2010s, i'm just going to presume that it's crap anyway. How do you not know that song!? It was a big hit around late 2010. Its definitely a guilty pleasure for me .
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 15, 2018 19:44:51 GMT 10
How do you not know that song!? It was a big hit around late 2010. Its definitely a guilty pleasure for me . Oh, that song. I never knew what the name of it was.
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 29, 2019 3:26:32 GMT 10
Even though I considered Kesha a fun breath of fresh air when she became popular at the turn of the decade, this song specifically has always bothered me. In hindsight, it’s pretty much a perfect representation of everything I can’t stand about the millennial generation and the 2010s in general. To begin with, the title is shameless queerbaiting; even though Kesha herself is bisexual, there’s absolutely nothing LGBT-related beyond the song’s name as I came in expecting; hell, she even specifically refers to hitting on boys. Beyond that, the lyrics are lazy, repetitious, lowbrow, and self-congratulatory, while even the composition itself feels like it’s putting up a facade of vulnerability to hide its sleazy core. There’s just this really shallow vibe about this song, that it epitomizes how 2010s millennials headline themselves as progressive free spirits when in actuality they’re just a bunch of vindictive cool kids who look for every cheap excuse to claim some sort of moral high ground.
Surprisingly, I actually don’t mind the much more despised “Blah Blah Blah”, as I feel that there’s a sort of light-hearted beauty to all its madness. All those bleepity synths and drunken, auto-tuned vocals fit the song, even though it isn’t really aimed for somebody like me specifically. It’s no less reckless than “We R Who We R”, but it’s also much more candid and doesn’t come across as a musical equivalent to some deceptive Buzzfeed article.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 29, 2019 8:46:42 GMT 10
Even though I considered Kesha a fun breath of fresh air when she became popular at the turn of the decade, this song specifically has always bothered me. In hindsight, it’s pretty much a perfect representation of everything I can’t stand about the millennial generation and the 2010s in general. To begin with, the title is shameless queerbaiting; even though Kesha herself is bisexual, there’s absolutely nothing LGBT-related beyond the song’s name as I came in expecting; hell, she even specifically refers to hitting on boys. Beyond that, the lyrics are lazy, repetitious, lowbrow, and self-congratulatory, while even the composition itself feels like it’s putting up a facade of vulnerability to hide its sleazy core. There’s just this really shallow vibe about this song, that it epitomizes how 2010s millennials headline themselves as progressive free spirits when in actuality they’re just a bunch of vindictive cool kids who look for every cheap excuse to claim some sort of moral high ground. Surprisingly, I actually don’t mind the much more despised “Blah Blah Blah”, as I feel that there’s a sort of light-hearted beauty to all its madness. All those bleepity synths and drunken, auto-tuned vocals fit the song, even though it isn’t really aimed for somebody like me specifically. It’s no less reckless than “We R Who We R”, but it’s also much more candid and doesn’t come across as a musical equivalent to some deceptive Buzzfeed article. Yep. It's hard to know who is truly responsible for the song's development, because I know that Kesha had creative differences with the record label that she was signed to at the time and the label had a lot of control over her music output. For instance, I can remember reading that Kesha wanted to include a rock song onto her Warrior album, but the record label rejected it as it wasn't deemed marketable. Kesha may have genuinely wanted "We R Who We R" to have been an empowerment anthem for the LGBTI community, however the record label might have changed the lyrics and the overall nature of the song to suit their liking.
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 29, 2019 11:02:11 GMT 10
Even though I considered Kesha a fun breath of fresh air when she became popular at the turn of the decade, this song specifically has always bothered me. In hindsight, it’s pretty much a perfect representation of everything I can’t stand about the millennial generation and the 2010s in general. To begin with, the title is shameless queerbaiting; even though Kesha herself is bisexual, there’s absolutely nothing LGBT-related beyond the song’s name as I came in expecting; hell, she even specifically refers to hitting on boys. Beyond that, the lyrics are lazy, repetitious, lowbrow, and self-congratulatory, while even the composition itself feels like it’s putting up a facade of vulnerability to hide its sleazy core. There’s just this really shallow vibe about this song, that it epitomizes how 2010s millennials headline themselves as progressive free spirits when in actuality they’re just a bunch of vindictive cool kids who look for every cheap excuse to claim some sort of moral high ground. Surprisingly, I actually don’t mind the much more despised “Blah Blah Blah”, as I feel that there’s a sort of light-hearted beauty to all its madness. All those bleepity synths and drunken, auto-tuned vocals fit the song, even though it isn’t really aimed for somebody like me specifically. It’s no less reckless than “We R Who We R”, but it’s also much more candid and doesn’t come across as a musical equivalent to some deceptive Buzzfeed article. Yep. It's hard to know who is truly responsible for the song's development, because I know that Kesha had creative differences with the record label that she was signed to at the time and the label had a lot of control over her music output. For instance, I can remember reading that Kesha wanted to include a rock song onto her Warrior album, but the record label rejected it as it wasn't deemed marketable. Kesha may have genuinely wanted "We R Who We R" to have been an empowerment anthem for the LGBTI community, however the record label might have changed the lyrics and the overall nature of the song to suit their liking. Indeed. It's very evident Kesha is actually a very deep and layered person, but as I've personally experienced in the eurobeat industry, the shot-callers of the music world can put some serious restrictions over what gets approved and promoted versus what gets spat aside. The company Avex, which pretty much monopolizes the eurobeat market right now, sets very narrow standards over how they want their eurobeat songs to sound, and they've told the Italian labels they hire several rules that basically stifle the creativity diversity of the genre. Among the boundaries they've laid down, songs have to be in a minor key, they have to have a high-pitched/airy synth hook, they have to follow a specific structure, they have to be roughly 140-150 bpm, and apparently the female vocalists they want are primarily sopranos (like Ariana Grande), while lower-ranged contraltos such as Dua Lipa, myself, and Rachel Stevens don't fit the style they want. It's all shamelessly calculated, based on the arbitrarily formulas laid out by Avex's primary marketers, resulting in stale, predictable material.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 29, 2019 11:21:33 GMT 10
Indeed. It's very evident Kesha is actually a very deep and layered person, but as I've personally experienced in the eurobeat industry, the shot-callers of the music world can put some serious restrictions over what gets approved and promoted versus what gets spat aside. The company Avex, which pretty much monopolizes the eurobeat market right now, sets very narrow standards over how they want their eurobeat songs to sound, and they've told the Italian labels they hire several rules that basically stifle the creativity diversity of the genre. Among the boundaries they've laid down, songs have to be in a minor key, they have to have a high-pitched/airy synth hook, they have to follow a specific structure, they have to be roughly 140-150 bpm, and apparently the female vocalists they want are primarily sopranos (like Ariana Grande), while lower-ranged contraltos such as Dua Lipa, myself, and Rachel Stevens apparently don't fit the style they want. It's all shamelessly calculated, based on the arbitrarily formulas laid out by Avex's primary markers, resulting in stale, predictable material. Which is ridiculous, IMO. I don't understand why record labels outside of the Top-40 mainstream circle would want to enforce such tough restrictions on their contracted talent. I know that the label's image/reputation is at stake if an artist releases material that sparks considerable controversy within a music scene, but by denying someone the chance to compose music on their own terms (and not what the record label determines to be satisfactory), it can destroy their artistic integrity and have greater implications for all parties involved. You need to allow artists/bands a chance to experiment and compose music that they are comfortable being associated with. The fact that Avex sets very narrow standards just doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, if a Eurobeat artist releases an album which is critically acclaimed and defies expectations, it's only going to benefit the record label in the long-run. Not only would it result in both the artist and the record label earning a bigger profit, but it would attract up-and-coming artists/bands to sign with the label as well. Really, in an age where the average Joe can upload/release a track on streaming services such as Spotify and become hugely successful, record labels should be trying to "stand out from the crowd" as much as they possibly can.
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Post by #Infinity on Mar 29, 2019 12:45:04 GMT 10
Indeed. It's very evident Kesha is actually a very deep and layered person, but as I've personally experienced in the eurobeat industry, the shot-callers of the music world can put some serious restrictions over what gets approved and promoted versus what gets spat aside. The company Avex, which pretty much monopolizes the eurobeat market right now, sets very narrow standards over how they want their eurobeat songs to sound, and they've told the Italian labels they hire several rules that basically stifle the creativity diversity of the genre. Among the boundaries they've laid down, songs have to be in a minor key, they have to have a high-pitched/airy synth hook, they have to follow a specific structure, they have to be roughly 140-150 bpm, and apparently the female vocalists they want are primarily sopranos (like Ariana Grande), while lower-ranged contraltos such as Dua Lipa, myself, and Rachel Stevens apparently don't fit the style they want. It's all shamelessly calculated, based on the arbitrarily formulas laid out by Avex's primary markers, resulting in stale, predictable material. Which is ridiculous, IMO. I don't understand why record labels outside of the Top-40 mainstream circle would want to enforce such tough restrictions on their contracted talent. I know that the label's image/reputation is at stake if an artist releases material that sparks considerable controversy within a music scene, but by denying someone the chance to compose music on their own terms (and not what the record label determines to be satisfactory), it can destroy their artistic integrity and have greater implications for all parties involved. You need to allow artists/bands a chance to experiment and compose music that they are comfortable being associated with. The fact that Avex sets very narrow standards just doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, if a Eurobeat artist releases an album which is critically acclaimed and defies expectations, it's only going to benefit the record label in the long-run. Not only would it result in both the artist and the record label earning a bigger profit, but it would attract up-and-coming artists/bands to sign with the label as well. Really, in an age where the average Joe can upload/release a track on streaming services such as Spotify and become hugely successful, record labels should be trying to "stand out from the crowd" as much as they possibly can. Everything you just said is pretty much exactly my own motto with Carlsbeat. As a super niche genre, eurobeat should be a safe space for outcasts who want to produce whatever they want while taking respectful cues from its long tradition. That's just not happening nowadays, so the industry is stuck in a paradox, being much more obscure than even the most avant-garde pockets of the music world, yet simultaneously more controlled and restrained even than the mainstream pop industry, which at the very least allows for a decent gamut of subject matter (just look at Ariana's most recent work) and female singers who have lower, more sultry ranges like Dua Lipa and Jess Glynne and still achieve mega-success. I think the reason Avex is so tyrannical about the eurobeat industry is because how how vast its legacy is in the eurobeat industry. Avex itself is one of the biggest music companies in all of Japan, famous for a lot more than just eurobeat, and during its existence, the Super Eurobeat series lasted 250 albums and was once successful enough that a single installment or spinoff could sell in the sextuple digits, a huge feat for a Japan-only record. Artists from the Italian labels like Dave Rodgers, Domino, and Niko/DeJo have huge resumés in the industry and are thus much more attractive for Avex to promote, as they want to bank on previous successes and familiarity. They're all super talented and have released many great songs in the past, but everything the veterans come out with now is just a shallower rehash of their older work, and usually gets forgotten within weeks. With eurobeat having fallen out of favour over the past several years, Avex has been leaning so desperately on nostalgia that they've compromised the creative flexibility that once existed under their watch. With how much of a mess the eurobeat industry is in right now, it's likely that I will ultimately start my own genre, as opposed to producing straight eurobeat. The "carlsbeat" genre is basically heavily influenced by all the things I love about eurobeat, but isn't shackled by the restrictions on tempo, structure, lyrical content, vocal stylings, or rhythm that plague the eurobeat industry right now. Not to mention, Carlsbeat won't have to be so indelibly associated with anime and Japan the way eurobeat is; as much as I respect eurobeat's heritage, I dislike seeing it almost exclusively tied to such limited subcultures, when I always appreciated the genre just as anything else. You can I guess consider "Feel the Music" a basic example of the carlsbeat genre, but I plan on being even more flexible with my productions down the road.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 29, 2019 15:10:56 GMT 10
Everything you just said is pretty much exactly my own motto with Carlsbeat. As a super niche genre, eurobeat should be a safe space for outcasts who want to produce whatever they want while taking respectful cues from its long tradition. That's just not happening nowadays, so the industry is stuck in a paradox, being much more obscure than even the most avant-garde pockets of the music world, yet simultaneously more controlled and restrained even than the mainstream pop industry, which at the very least allows for a decent gamut of subject matter (just look at Ariana's most recent work) and female singers who have lower, more sultry ranges like Dua Lipa and Jess Glynne and still achieve mega-success. I think the reason Avex is so tyrannical about the eurobeat industry is because how how vast its legacy is in the eurobeat industry. Avex itself is one of the biggest music companies in all of Japan, famous for a lot more than just eurobeat, and during its existence, the Super Eurobeat series lasted 250 albums and was once successful enough that a single installment or spinoff could sell in the sextuple digits, a huge feat for a Japan-only record. Artists from the Italian labels like Dave Rodgers, Domino, and Niko/DeJo have huge resumés in the industry and are thus much more attractive for Avex to promote, as they want to bank on previous successes and familiarity. They're all super talented and have released many great songs in the past, but everything the veterans come out with now is just a shallower rehash of their older work, and usually gets forgotten within weeks. With eurobeat having fallen out of favour over the past several years, Avex has been leaning so desperately on nostalgia that they've compromised the creative flexibility that once existed under their watch. With how much of a mess the eurobeat industry is in right now, it's likely that I will ultimately start my own genre, as opposed to producing straight eurobeat. The "carlsbeat" genre is basically heavily influenced by all the things I love about eurobeat, but isn't shackled by the restrictions on tempo, structure, lyrical content, vocal stylings, or rhythm that plague the eurobeat industry right now. Not to mention, Carlsbeat won't have to be so indelibly associated with anime and Japan the way eurobeat is; as much as I respect eurobeat's heritage, I dislike seeing it almost exclusively tied to such limited subcultures, when I always appreciated the genre just as anything else. You can I guess consider "Feel the Music" a basic example of the carlsbeat genre, but I plan on being even more flexible with my productions down the road. Do you think the reason for that is due to the growth of social media? I know you mentioned that Avex have a legacy to protect and that is understandable, but in terms of how the Eurobeat industry is imposing restrictions on it's artists as a whole, would you say that it has been in the form of a reaction against social media's increasing prominence or something else entirely? Starting your own genre with Carlsbeat wouldn't be a bad idea. You could always incorporate additional influences into your music if you ever wanted to and it should hopefully grow your audience as well.
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Post by SharksFan99 on May 19, 2019 10:29:03 GMT 10
This would definitely have to be up there as being one of the worst songs from this decade.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 1, 2019 20:23:48 GMT 10
I heard this piece of garbage on the radio a few days ago. IMO, it would have to be one of my least favourite songs of the Late 2010s. I can't stand the vocals in particular.
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Post by broadstreet223 on Sept 1, 2019 23:44:20 GMT 10
Every mumble rap song
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 1, 2019 23:47:07 GMT 10
You're definitely right about that! I can't stand Trap.
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Post by ItsMichael on Sept 2, 2019 2:29:15 GMT 10
This is the first guy that comes to mind every time I hear those two words...
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