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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 6:01:47 GMT 10
Ridiculous hypothesis, I know. But have you noticed lately the interesting young (notably, Gen Z) artists that are springing out into the limelight as a result? It’s most noticeable in the realm of bedroom pop, such as Clairo, Rex Orange County, Snail Mail, Mac DeMarco, boy pablo and others. But even in localized music markets like Australian pop punk (acts like Yours Truly and Stand Atlantic), it seems to me that these artists are achieving renown thanks to happy coincidence through being picked up by the algorithm.
And I think it affords us a useful opportunity to see what musical trends of the 2020s *might* look like (obviously I won’t say definitely; these are still relatively obscure acts, after all). I would wager that as Gen Z develops and makes their voice known in pop culture, bedroom pop and pop punk could be among the trends that overtake trap.
Thoughts?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 20, 2019 13:12:09 GMT 10
I honestly can't say that I have, but I have never really been one for closely following the latest internet/social media fads. Interesting to hear about though. I do believe that the next big genres in music will most likely come from sub-scenes which are popular on YouTube/Soundcloud now. We are likely already engaging in the next "big thing" in music in some form or another, but we're just not aware of it yet.
I know next to nothing about what 'bedroom pop' is (so I couldn't tell you if I think it will become successful), however I do believe there is a slim possibility for pop-punk to one day return to the Top-40 mainstream. For whatever reason, pop-punk seems to be the only genre of rock that truly resonates with the youth of today. YUNGBLUD has been making headwaves in the underground over the past couple of years and he even achieved a Top-40 hit when he collaborated with "11 Minutes" earlier this year. There seems to still be a lot of interest in the genre, so it definitely isn't out of the realm of possibility.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 20:50:55 GMT 10
I honestly can't say that I have, but I have never really been one for closely following the latest internet/social media fads. Interesting to hear about though. I do believe that the next big genres in music will most likely come from sub-scenes which are popular on YouTube/Soundcloud now. We are likely already engaging in the next "big thing" in music in some form or another, but we're just not aware of it yet. I know next to nothing about what 'bedroom pop' is (so I couldn't tell you if I think it will become successful), however I do believe there is a slim possibility for pop-punk to one day return to the Top-40 mainstream. For whatever reason, pop-punk seems to be the only genre of rock that truly resonates with the youth of today. YUNGBLUD has been making headwaves in the underground over the past couple of years and he even achieved a Top-40 hit when he collaborated with "11 Minutes" earlier this year. There seems to still be a lot of interest in the genre, so it definitely isn't out of the realm of possibility. Yeah, sure, so here is a small sampling of bedroom pop artists, some of whom have had radio hits: I think it is primarily a U.S. trend, though it clearly has garnered some international attention (for example, boy pablo is from Norway). The Australian pop punk thing, I thought would be more to your interest, especially because it too is catching fire internationally: Only time will tell of course - incidentally, YouTube appears to push a lot of Midwest emo and math rock too, and even those have followings, but since those genres "have been," I'm not sure how far they'll go in the coming decade. But each of these artists appear to have faithful followings which might translate into actual sales down the road. Sales turn into radio play, and then we might have an actual revolution on our hands, all thanks to an internet algorithm that recommends videos to YouTube users.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 20, 2019 21:18:43 GMT 10
Only time will tell of course - incidentally, YouTube appears to push a lot of Midwest emo and math rock too, and even those have followings, but since those genres "have been," I'm not sure how far they'll go in the coming decade. But each of these artists appear to have faithful followings which might translate into actual sales down the road. Sales turn into radio play, and then we might have an actual revolution on our hands, all thanks to an internet algorithm that recommends videos to YouTube users. Thanks for sharing those. I'll check out some of the songs when I get a chance. Honestly, i'm surprised to hear about the Australian pop-punk scene garnering international attention, because the only local scenes which I had been aware were doing well overseas were the indie and psychedelic-rock scenes (e.g Courtney Barnett, Tame Impala etc.) The fact that pop-punk is now gaining ground is perhaps even more of an indication that music is shifting away from the 2010s. In any case, pop-punk definitely hasn't made a dent in the mainstream here, at least not yet anyway. I have my doubts though that Midwest emo (or any form of emo rock) will ever breakthrough into the Top-40 again. Trap has essentially filled the void that Emo left in the Early 2010s and I can see the emo aesthetic falling out of favour once Trap loses it's relevance sometime in the next few years. It's a case of right place, wrong time. Pop-punk I think stands a much better chance, as it's songs are typically centred around lyrical themes which are not found in emo and it will likely do well if it exists in the form of a backlash against the 2010s. I haven't listened to math-rock before so I can't make a judgement on that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 22:45:04 GMT 10
And on the note of Australian rock bands opening to international appeal, I don’t know how, I don’t know why a silly Aussie punk band making fun of bogans is getting this much play, but they are. Millions of views for their videos:
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 22, 2019 21:54:24 GMT 10
And on the note of Australian rock bands opening to international appeal, I don’t know how, I don’t know why a silly Aussie punk band making fun of bogans is getting this much play, but they are. Millions of views for their videos: Ah yes, I've heard of "The Chats" before actually. I'm personally not a fan of their music, tbh. I've listened to a couple of their songs before and I just don't see the appeal in them. I think the only reason why they are achieving success overseas is that their approach to music is very 'Strayan and people overseas seem to like hearing stereotypical Aussie accents (as i'm sure it probably comes across as being a complete novelty). I mean, that's mainly the reason as to how Crocodille Dundee and the late-great Steve Irwin developed followings in the US as well; they presented themselves in a very bogany, Aussie manner; even though it isn't actually a true reflection of what Australians are generally like.
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Post by Telso on Sept 11, 2019 22:56:17 GMT 10
My face when Post Malone hopped on the Clairo-type Bedroom Pop bandwagon ! This actually might be a very faisible direction now that I look at it.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 11, 2019 23:04:44 GMT 10
My face when Post Malone hopped on the Clairo-type Bedroom Pop bandwagon ! This actually might be a very faisible direction now that I look at it. It's definitely the direction he needs to further pursue on future releases. I've always got the impression that his true passion for music lies with rock rather than hip-hop. Before he became famous, he was actually a member of a heavy metal band and he has toured with quite a number of established rock bands over the past couple of years as well. His voice is just more suited to indie/rock than Trap, IMO. Speaking of Post, have you listened to his new collaboration with Ozzy Osbourne?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 22:53:31 GMT 10
Oh whoa, I was not expecting to be so on point with this. Hey, go me!
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