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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 15, 2020 12:52:30 GMT 10
...and to think the doors are still wide open to/from the US even though quite a significant amount of the cases are coming from over there. Hmmm.... NZ has the right ideas (yet again). I wouldn't be at all surprised if all schools aren't closed before the end of next week, with everything else in the coming weeks. Really quite amazed to actually see how things have escalated in just a short period of time. No I didn't but I caught pieces of it elsewhere later on. All that really did was once again put on full display the lack of proper leadership from this lot. Absolutely no substance and all about him and his colleagues. I don't normally wish ill, but sucked in to Peter Dutton. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person!  Yep, completely agree on all points. Now all we need is for ScoMo to become infected.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 15, 2020 12:57:28 GMT 10
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2020 13:13:55 GMT 10
I don't normally wish ill, but sucked in to Peter Dutton. Couldn't have happened to a nicer person! Now all we need is for ScoMo to become infected. Look, I don't have a particularly high opinion of either Peter Dutton or Scott Morrison. The descriptive words I'd want to use for them are most likely inappropriate for a public forum. But at the same time, it's just as wrong to wish ill on Dutton & Morrison as it would to say similar about Anthony Albanese or whoever the Labor equivalent of Dutton currently is.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 16, 2020 14:45:01 GMT 10
It's a sad decision, but it's unfortunately the right one. The sad prospect though is that some of the veterans may no longer be with us when the next ANZAC services are held in just over 12 months time: Also, my home region has just had it's first confirmed case: 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2020 22:01:02 GMT 10
I saw useful information from Ottawa Public Health about social distancing and self-isolation: Social distancing involves taking steps to limit the number of people you come into close contact with. This will help to limit the spread of COVID-19 in the community.
Please note: that these guidelines are not meant to say “you must stay in your home!”
You can still go outside to take a walk, go to the park, or walk your dog. If you need groceries, go to the store. We simply recommend that while outside you make sure to avoid crowds and maintain a distance of 1-2 metres (3-6 feet) from those around you. AND Self-isolation is when you have been instructed to separate yourself from others, with the purpose of preventing the spread of the virus, including those within your home. If you are ill, you should be separated from others in your household to the greatest extent possible.
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Post by Telso on Mar 17, 2020 1:07:16 GMT 10
Spain and Italy are two countries already in full lockdown, and France is rumored to follow suit.
The situation here in Europe is really disastrous.
Stay safe, y'all.
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Post by Telso on Mar 17, 2020 6:31:02 GMT 10
France is officially also in full lockdown and all EU/Shengen borders are closed off until further notice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 8:09:44 GMT 10
A return to the days of autarky, huh? That can’t possibly end poorly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 8:12:33 GMT 10
Canada shut the country to foreigners (except Americans, for now).
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Post by Telso on Mar 17, 2020 8:54:05 GMT 10
Denmark apparently only allows to test people with severe symptoms of the disease which is a mind-blowingly bad decision.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 12:23:56 GMT 10
Denmark apparently only allows to test people with severe symptoms of the disease which is a mind-blowingly bad decision. Maybe they don't have enough testing kits for everyone and/or enough labs/people to mass analyze every test. I take that back.Their testing per million people isn't that bad compared to some other countries: 
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 13:39:26 GMT 10
Denmark apparently only allows to test people with severe symptoms of the disease which is a mind-blowingly bad decision. Scandinavia in general is performing horribly in this crisis. Sweden isn't even encouraging social distancing and is also only testing at-risk groups. Norway has one of the biggest outbreaks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 13:46:31 GMT 10
Denmark apparently only allows to test people with severe symptoms of the disease which is a mind-blowingly bad decision. Maybe they don't have enough testing kits for everyone and/or enough labs/people to mass analyze every test. I take that back.Their testing per million people isn't that bad compared to some other countries: "per million" biases it towards small countries. Coronavirus doesn't care how small your population is, its spread is more a function of how long the disease has already been spreading within a population. The best way to show if a country is doing extensive testing is actually to check how many tests came back positive as percentage of total tests taken. If only 3% come back positive and 97% come back negative (which I read somewhere is roughly the number in South Korea) that means a broad section of the population is being testing. I read a similar statistic in the US is 30% of tests came back positive, which either means criteria in the US is a lot stricter and you're less likely to get tested if you have symptoms, or the disease is more widespread (at this stage the former is more likely).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 15:24:25 GMT 10
The UK only realised "in the last few days" that attempts to "mitigate" the impact of the coronavirus pandemic would not work, and that it needed to shift to a strategy to "suppress" the outbreak, according to a report by a team of experts who have been advising the government.
The report, published by the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team on Monday night, found that the strategy previously being pursued by the government — dubbed "mitigation" and involving home isolation of suspect cases and their family members but not including restrictions on wider society — would "likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths and health systems (most notably intensive care units) being overwhelmed many times over".
The mitigation strategy "focuses on slowing but not necessarily stopping epidemic spread — reducing peak healthcare demand while protecting those most at risk of severe disease from infection", the report said, reflecting the UK strategy that was outlined last week by Boris Johnson and the chief scientific adviser Patrick Vallance.
But the approach was found to be unworkable. "Our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over," perhaps by as much as eight times, the report said.
In this scenario, the Imperial College team predicted as many as 250,000 deaths in Britain.
"In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days," the report explained, due to new data on likely intensive care unit demand based on the experience of Italy and Britain so far.
"We were expecting herd immunity to build. We now realise it’s not possible to cope with that," professor Azra Ghani, chair of infectious diseases epidemiology at Imperial, told journalists at a briefing on Monday night.
As a result, the report — which its authors said had "informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in the last weeks" — said: "We therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time."
A suppression strategy, along the lines of the approach adopted by the Chinese authorities, "aims to reverse epidemic growth, reducing case numbers to low levels and maintaining that situation indefinitely".
It requires "a combination of social distancing of the entire population, home isolation of cases and household quarantine of their family members", and "may need to be supplemented by school and university closures".
An "intensive intervention package" will have to be "maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more)", the report said, painting an extraordinary picture of what life could be like in the UK for the next year and a half.
On Monday afternoon, the prime minister drastically tightened the measures imposed on the British public — signalling the UK's move to a suppression strategy.
Everyone in the UK should now stop "non-essential contact" with other people and avoid pubs, clubs, cinemas, and theatres to slow the spread of the coronavirus, Johnson announced.
Families have also been urged to stay at home together for 14 days if any member is showing symptoms of the virus — a new, continuous cough or a fever.
Johnson said that anyone in isolation should avoid leaving the house "even to buy food or essentials" and should exercise outside the house only at a safe distance from others.
A government spokesperson said: “This is a very fast-moving situation. In order to give the most robust scientific advice SAGE [the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies] draws upon and considers a range of evidence and views to reach its recommendations. Part of this evidence includes the latest modelling data from a number of experts. All SAGE recommendations are in line with the best current evidence. We will be publishing further evidence shortly.”Link: Source articleLink: Imperial College report
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 17, 2020 16:54:46 GMT 10
Spain and Italy are two countries already in full lockdown, and France is rumored to follow suit. The situation here in Europe is really disastrous. Stay safe, y'all. What's the situation like in Belgium at the moment? I really feel for all of you in Europe, I couldn't even begin to imagine how difficult life must be.
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