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Post by Telso on Oct 20, 2020 3:26:44 GMT 10
Admittedly, the very suburban white-centric view of the history of disco, which again admittedly is the only viewpoint of disco's history that I know, was that Saturday Night Fever is what set the fire for mainstream America in terms of disco. Once John Travolta was seen dancing in the discotheque in New York, so was the high school girl in Bloomfield, Michigan. The Saturday Night Fever phenomenon was more of the peak of disco rather than it "becoming popular".
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Post by sman12 on Oct 20, 2020 5:52:16 GMT 10
The 80s had synthpop, new wave, perm hair, VHS tapes, and Reagan-era politics throughout the decade, so I would go with the 80s.
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Post by Telso on Oct 20, 2020 6:14:10 GMT 10
The 80s had synthpop, new wave, perm hair, VHS tapes, and Reagan-era politics throughout the decade, so I would go with the 80s. They didn't tho? Synthpop and new wave weren't the main charting genres after 1985, instead it was freestyle, arena rock/pop, adult contemporary and general dance-pop from there on. Heavily permed hair was nowhere near dominant in the early 1980s than after (heck it was way bigger in the early 1990s than 10 years before). VHS was indeed around the whole decade, but that's scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit? It's like saying the 1990s were consistent because you had CDs the whole decade. Plus the early part of the 1980s had Betamax still being relevant, which were dead by the end of it.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Oct 20, 2020 9:44:21 GMT 10
The 80s had synthpop, new wave, perm hair, VHS tapes, and Reagan-era politics throughout the decade, so I would go with the 80s. They didn't tho? Synthpop and new wave weren't the main charting genres after 1985, instead it was freestyle, arena rock/pop, adult contemporary and general dance-pop from there on. Heavily permed hair was nowhere near dominant in the early 1980s than after (heck it was way bigger in the early 1990s than 10 years before). VHS was indeed around the whole decade, but that's scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit? It's like saying the 1990s were consistent because you had CDs the whole decade. Plus the early part of the 1980s had Betamax still being relevant, which were dead by the end of it. People overrate the popularity of VHS in the 80s, the home adoption rate for VCRs never took off until 1985. Even according to my parents and older relatives, VHS was only popular in the latter half of the 80s, they didn't even know anyone with a VCR in the early 80s. VHS is actually more definitive for the 1990s.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 10:35:48 GMT 10
The 80s had synthpop, new wave, perm hair, VHS tapes, and Reagan-era politics throughout the decade, so I would go with the 80s. They didn't tho? Synthpop and new wave weren't the main charting genres after 1985, instead it was freestyle, arena rock/pop, adult contemporary and general dance-pop from there on. Heavily permed hair was nowhere near dominant in the early 1980s than after (heck it was way bigger in the early 1990s than 10 years before). VHS was indeed around the whole decade, but that's scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit? It's like saying the 1990s were consistent because you had CDs the whole decade. Plus the early part of the 1980s had Betamax still being relevant, which were dead by the end of it. Yeah, new wave was very much a Reagan Pt. I phenom, along with hardcore punk.
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Post by sman12 on Oct 21, 2020 0:27:34 GMT 10
So what's exactly consistent about the 80s that I don't know about?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 12:27:32 GMT 10
So what's exactly consistent about the 80s that I don't know about? The music was fairly consistent. While there were differences between the early '80s and the late '80s, there is a distinct '80s sound' that's hard to describe, but is present as early as 1980 and didn't completely fade out until around 1993. This sound was present across genres, so while genres may have came and went, the '80s-identifying sound was still there. I was in diapers in the 80s and my image of it is that of a very consistent decade. However, people who were adults during them might have a different opinion. The '80s stereotypes were at their peak in the second half of the decade into the very early 1990s.
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Post by Cassie on Oct 28, 2020 2:18:52 GMT 10
How are the 2010s 2nd? They were very inconsistent culturally and ESPECIALLY politically. Early 2010s vs Late 2010s are a huge difference to me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 8:25:06 GMT 10
How are the 2010s 2nd? They were very inconsistent culturally and ESPECIALLY politically. Early 2010s vs Late 2010s are a huge difference to me. It was consistent from 2009-2016 or so. I agree late 2010s was a bit different, but it had a "zombie 2010s" vibe rather than pushing the envelope in any way.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Oct 28, 2020 13:02:10 GMT 10
How are the 2010s 2nd? They were very inconsistent culturally and ESPECIALLY politically. Early 2010s vs Late 2010s are a huge difference to me. It was consistent from 2009-2016 or so. I agree late 2010s was a bit different, but it had a "zombie 2010s" vibe rather than pushing the envelope in any way. I would change that consistent range more to 2012 - 2016, 2009 still had a lot of 2000s culture and was far too transitional/inconsistent as a year of its own. 2010 and early 2011 still had 2000s leftovers too but, to a much MUCH lesser extent though. Overall, I definitely agree with your stance on the late 2010s being the "zombie 2010s" lol. The late 2010s is just a culturally watered down and politically backwards version of the mid 2010s.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Oct 28, 2020 13:06:44 GMT 10
So what's exactly consistent about the 80s that I don't know about? The music was fairly consistent. While there were differences between the early '80s and the late '80s, there is a distinct '80s sound' that's hard to describe, but is present as early as 1980 and didn't completely fade out until around 1993. This sound was present across genres, so while genres may have came and went, the '80s-identifying sound was still there. I was in diapers in the 80s and my image of it is that of a very consistent decade. However, people who were adults during them might have a different opinion. The '80s stereotypes were at their peak in the second half of the decade into the very early 1990s. With the 80s, I feel like 1983 - 1987 was when the 80s were at their most consistent. On the otherhand, the early 80s and the last couple years of the 80s actually seem quite different/inconsistent.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2020 13:38:22 GMT 10
It was consistent from 2009-2016 or so. I agree late 2010s was a bit different, but it had a "zombie 2010s" vibe rather than pushing the envelope in any way. I would change that consistent range more to 2012 - 2016, 2009 still had a lot of 2000s culture and was far too transitional/inconsistent as a year of its own. 2010 and early 2011 still had 2000s leftovers too but, to a much MUCH lesser extent though. Overall, I definitely agree with your stance on the late 2010s being the "zombie 2010s" lol. The late 2010s is just a culturally watered down and politically backwards version of the mid 2010s. The late 2010s are 2010s but without a soul. I was okay with it as it was ongoing but now I can't ish with it lol. Here are some things consistent about the 2010s: Game of Thrones (2011-2019) Living with the Kardashians (2007-2020) Electronic music (2007/8- ) Hipsters (2008-2017) Obama (2009-2016) Adventure Time (2010-2016) iPhones (2007-) Android (2009-) iPads (2010-) Facebook (2007-) Twitter (2009-) YouTube (2006-) Instagram (2011/12-) Tumblr (2008-2017) Reddit (2008-) Justin Bieber (2009-) Taylor Swift (2006/2009-) Drake (2009-) Adele (2011-2016? not sure about this one) Call of Duty Modern Warfare (2007-) Minecraft (2009-) Steam (2008-) Escape Rooms (2009-) Big butt obsession (2010-- as opposed to the 2000s breast implant obsession) Gluten free fad (2010-) Orgabic food/anti-GMO (2006-) Anti-vaxx (2008-) Anti-nuclear (2011-) US Tea Party/far right (2010-) Modern LGBTQ+ movement (2008-, using the Prop-8 referendum as a start date) Chrome browser (2008-) Superhero movies obsession (2008-) Comic book obsession (2009?- not sure when to start or end this) 4G LTE (2011-) Netflix (2007-) Spotify (2010-) Craft beer (2010-) Starbucks free WiFi and it going from a hangout spot to work on your laptop and browse your phone spot (2010-) I'll stop there. I listed things as they came to mind. I don't mean for this to be an objective list, it's just from my perspective.
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Post by TheUser98 on Oct 28, 2020 13:47:22 GMT 10
Though not an option, I think the most consistent decade absolutely is the 1930s. The decade was culturally defined and influenced by the Great Depression, which lasted right from the start to the end of the decade.
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Post by Telso on Oct 29, 2020 9:38:20 GMT 10
So what's exactly consistent about the 80s that I don't know about? The music was fairly consistent. Sure, I really can't tell which hit songs belong to 1980 and 1989 for instance.
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Post by mc98 on Oct 29, 2020 10:25:57 GMT 10
Here's how I rank the consistency of each decades from most to least:
1970s
2010s
2000s
1990s
1980s
1960s
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