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Post by slashpop on Sept 17, 2020 19:24:52 GMT 10
I think summer 99 a very unique vibe of its own. Here are some things that immediately pop out. Please JohnTitor and others please contribute with pics or things if you want. Biggest proper rock festival of the Y2K era and full of classic alternative bands and energy of the core 90s, something like this would be impossible to conceive at any point later. :format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-5390415-1392537850-2524.jpeg.jpg)  :no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/65049744/GettyImages_51066411.0.jpg) Collectible South park doll at carnivals and gadget stores across north america. These dolls are iconic in the same way the simpsons dolls were when they first came out. First time you would see south park merch so at many places and including those for kids and young children.  Near the end point of colorful and funky rave/house music subculture associated with the core 90s. From June 1999:     Pokemon mania at its peak. Every mall is full of people grabbing toys.     Singles with that represent the summer of 1999 and also by chance a feel as almost midpoint between the early Y2k/very late 90s and pure Y2K era. Movies: South Park the Movie American Pie Star Wars Episode 1 Mystery Men The Spy Who Shagged Me
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Post by John Titor on Sept 18, 2020 2:07:45 GMT 10
Summer 99 I was watching Nickelodeon , I hated Rocket power when it debuted, I was gearing up Sega Dreamcast's release which had me hype AF.
Everyone and their dog was watching Pokemon, and Dragon Ball Z was super popular now that it was on Toonami.
Summer 99 , there was Woodstock 99 and the 12 dollar water bottles lol StarWars Episode I took over the summer along with Austin Powers II.
Music that was in every CVS you walked into that summer, BSB larger then life, Len Sunshine, Smash mouth (ugh that was way overplayed)
98 degrees as well
Oh and who can forget WWF Smackdown! debuting this summer, The Rock pretty much became a household name as well as the phrase
lay the Smackdown
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Post by y2kbaby on Sept 18, 2020 5:40:03 GMT 10
I was only a few months old during that summer. Unfortunately, I have zero memories of that time, but it seems very fun. The people that vividly remember 1999 and the turn of the millennium are so lucky. The movies was on a whole other level. This was also around the time where Teen Pop was getting popular with the help of TRL. Come to think about it, I think the summer of 99 was when we were finally entered the Y2K Era.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 18, 2020 18:57:05 GMT 10
I was only a few month old during that summer. Unfortunately, I have zero memories of that time, but it seems very fun. The people that vividly remember 1999 and the turn of the millennium are so lucky. The movies was on a whole other level. This was also around the time where Teen Pop was getting popular with the help of TRL. Come to think about it, I think the summer of 99 was when we were finally entered the Y2K Era. The more I think about it the first half of the y2k and the summer 99 seem more 90s than remembered. At the time I thought it was more y2k than it was in retrospect. That Backstreet Boys song is definitely the most 90s pop song I’ve heard in the y2k era. Britney song would pass in mid 1998 There were definitely some strong minor core 90s traces left that didn’t make it past the summer of 99 imo. Even though 99/00 still had some of vibe unlike later years. You could feel it.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 18, 2020 22:16:11 GMT 10
Recently my opinion on 1999 has really changed, mainly on how 00s and 90s it really was. 1999 doesn't seem very 00s at all. Atleast 2000 has some stuff that I can confidently call 2000s but, 1999 on the otherhand really doesn't. Overall, 1999 is really a year of its own identity, it was quite different from 1998 (which still had plently of core 90s culture) and 2001 (which was already very early 2000s and definitely more 00s than 90s).
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Post by y2kbaby on Sept 19, 2020 1:42:52 GMT 10
Do you agree with me that the last months of 1999 and the first 2 months of the year 2000, was the peak of the Y2K Era? I want to say once we entered March of 2000, things started to shift in pop culture and the atmosphere. This was also around the time when the Dot Com Bubble started to burst, and the Y2K vibe was now transitioning into the forthcoming early 2000s. The later half of 2000 did felt very different from the first half of 1999.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 19, 2020 2:18:55 GMT 10
Do you agree with me that the last months of 1999 and the first 2 months of the year 2000, was the peak of the Y2K Era? I want to say once we entered March of 2000, things started to shift in pop culture and the atmosphere. This was also around the time when the Dot Com Bubble started to burst, and the Y2K vibe was now transitioning into the forthcoming early 2000s. The later half of 2000 did felt very different from the first half of 1999. Yes exactly I totally agree. Everyone forgets it but there were solid divisions in that overall era. September/October 1999 to February/March 2000 and to some extent April 2000 was a period of its own. To be fair spring and some portion of summer were slightly pointing to that era and somewhat the very last vibe of that period but it was starting to transition from then. Some can stretch it fall but it’s very little left. I actually think the proper early 2000s began in very late 2000 and were more commonly felt by Spring/Summer 2001. It’s fair to say the transitional early 2000s or transitional era was mid 2000 to early 2001 with May to July 2000 having the very last traces of pure y2k era.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 19, 2020 4:19:52 GMT 10
Do you agree with me that the last months of 1999 and the first 2 months of the year 2000, was the peak of the Y2K Era? I want to say once we entered March of 2000, things started to shift in pop culture and the atmosphere. This was also around the time when the Dot Com Bubble started to burst, and the Y2K vibe was now transitioning into the forthcoming early 2000s. The later half of 2000 did felt very different from the first half of 1999. Yes exactly I totally agree. Everyone forgets it but there were solid divisions in that overall era. September/October 1999 to February/March 2000 and to some extent April 2000 was a period of its own. To be fair spring and some portion of summer were slightly pointing to that era and somewhat the very last vibe of that period but it was starting to transition from then. Some can stretch it fall but it’s very little left. I actually think the proper early 2000s began in very late 2000 and were more commonly felt by Spring/Summer 2001.It’s fair to say the transitional early 2000s or transitional era was mid 2000 to early 2001 with May to July 2000 having the very last traces of pure y2k era. Summer Camp 2001 or as I call it the PRE early 2000s shadow 9/11 mini era where Teen pop was falling off a cliff, the most boring summer of them all !
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Post by John Titor on Sept 19, 2020 4:22:47 GMT 10
Do you agree with me that the last months of 1999 and the first 2 months of the year 2000, was the peak of the Y2K Era? I want to say once we entered March of 2000, things started to shift in pop culture and the atmosphere. This was also around the time when the Dot Com Bubble started to burst, and the Y2K vibe was now transitioning into the forthcoming early 2000s. The later half of 2000 did felt very different from the first half of 1999. By Fall 2000 things associated with the y2k era were waning as well - Pokemon Silver had come out, and the Tv show was getting decreased ratings - Playstation 2 had come out - ps1 and n64 SERIOUS fatigue - Teen pop fatigue already setting in - Dot com bubble effects - Recession looming -WWF ratings start decreasing around Survior Series 2000 - WCW not out of business but a few months away - Sega already having problems and mere months away from console closure - Clinton about to leave soon the wheels were already in motion by Fall 2000 but as Slashpop and I have both explained it was not until Spring/Summer 2001 the echo boom effect happened.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 19, 2020 13:25:24 GMT 10
Do you agree with me that the last months of 1999 and the first 2 months of the year 2000, was the peak of the Y2K Era? I want to say once we entered March of 2000, things started to shift in pop culture and the atmosphere. This was also around the time when the Dot Com Bubble started to burst, and the Y2K vibe was now transitioning into the forthcoming early 2000s. The later half of 2000 did felt very different from the first half of 1999. I agree with this, I would say July 1999 to the first few months of 2000 is what I would truly consider the Y2K era. On the otherhand, I think that very late 2000 - early 2004 was culturally the early 2000s.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 19, 2020 13:37:25 GMT 10
Do you agree with me that the last months of 1999 and the first 2 months of the year 2000, was the peak of the Y2K Era? I want to say once we entered March of 2000, things started to shift in pop culture and the atmosphere. This was also around the time when the Dot Com Bubble started to burst, and the Y2K vibe was now transitioning into the forthcoming early 2000s. The later half of 2000 did felt very different from the first half of 1999. By Fall 2000 things associated with the y2k era were waning as well - Pokemon Silver had come out, and the Tv show was getting decreased ratings - Playstation 2 had come out - ps1 and n64 SERIOUS fatigue - Teen pop fatigue already setting in - Dot com bubble effects - Recession looming -WWF ratings start decreasing around Survior Series 2000 - WCW not out of business but a few months away - Sega already having problems and mere months away from console closure - Clinton about to leave soon the wheels were already in motion by Fall 2000 but as Slashpop and I have both explained it was not until Spring/Summer 2001 the echo boom effect happened. The PS1/N64 fatigue was so real, especially the Nintendo 64. The Nintendo 64 peaked in 1997 but, it remained strong into 1999 and early 2000. Pokémon Stadium was the last Nintendo 64 game to be HUGE and that was in February 2000 but, after that I don't remember there being much fuss about the Nintendo 64 at all. Pokémon Stadium was also the last Nintendo 64 game I got until I lost all interest in the system too. On the otherhand, I feel like the Playstation still had a bit more steam to it (despite the PS2 coming out), the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater series was singlehandedly keeping the PS1 relevant come to think of it.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 19, 2020 14:24:17 GMT 10
By Fall 2000 things associated with the y2k era were waning as well - Pokemon Silver had come out, and the Tv show was getting decreased ratings - Playstation 2 had come out - ps1 and n64 SERIOUS fatigue - Teen pop fatigue already setting in - Dot com bubble effects - Recession looming -WWF ratings start decreasing around Survior Series 2000 - WCW not out of business but a few months away - Sega already having problems and mere months away from console closure - Clinton about to leave soon the wheels were already in motion by Fall 2000 but as Slashpop and I have both explained it was not until Spring/Summer 2001 the echo boom effect happened. The PS1/N64 fatigue was so real, especially the Nintendo 64. The Nintendo 64 peaked in 1997 but, it remained strong into 1999 and early 2000. Pokémon Stadium was the last Nintendo 64 game to be HUGE and that was in February 2000 but, after that I don't remember there being much fuss about the Nintendo 64 at all. Pokémon Stadium was also the last Nintendo 64 game I got until I lost all interest in the system too. On the otherhand, I feel like the Playstation still had a bit more steam to it (despite the PS2 coming out), the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater series was singlehandedly keeping the PS1 relevant come to think of it. if it was not for No Mercy, Tony Hawk 2 I am not sure N64 would be alive during that time lmao , ps1 def had more steam in the 2000-2001 school year, Smackdown 2, tony hawk 2, new Megaman X6 game , Final Fantasy 9, Dino Crisis 2 etc etc, when ps2 first came no one even had the system until Fall 2001 due to shortages, but yeah that 5th generation fatigue was real during this time. I actually hated n64 despite having every system at that time, too many long gaps waiting for games. N64 did have hype when it first came out but then slowly ps1 started beating its ass.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 19, 2020 16:02:49 GMT 10
The PS1/N64 fatigue was so real, especially the Nintendo 64. The Nintendo 64 peaked in 1997 but, it remained strong into 1999 and early 2000. Pokémon Stadium was the last Nintendo 64 game to be HUGE and that was in February 2000 but, after that I don't remember there being much fuss about the Nintendo 64 at all. Pokémon Stadium was also the last Nintendo 64 game I got until I lost all interest in the system too. On the otherhand, I feel like the Playstation still had a bit more steam to it (despite the PS2 coming out), the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater series was singlehandedly keeping the PS1 relevant come to think of it. if it was not for No Mercy, Tony Hawk 2 I am not sure N64 would be alive during that time lmao , ps1 def had more steam in the 2000-2001 school year, Smackdown 2, tony hawk 2, new Megaman X6 game , Final Fantasy 9, Dino Crisis 2 etc etc, when ps2 first came no one even had the system until Fall 2001 due to shortages, but yeah that 5th generation fatigue was real during this time. I actually hated n64 despite having every system at that time, too many long gaps waiting for games. N64 did have hype when it first came out but then slowly ps1 started beating its ass. PS1 absolutely destroyed the N64 in terms of sales. Like 1996 - 1997, the N64 was about just as popular if not more than the PS1 but, by 1998, Playstation was clearly king. My dad actually got a PS1 a year after getting the N64 because, back in the late 90s, he would walk into any store to get games and there were TONS of PS1 games but, Nintendo 64 games only took like a small corner lmao.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 19, 2020 16:12:41 GMT 10
if it was not for No Mercy, Tony Hawk 2 I am not sure N64 would be alive during that time lmao , ps1 def had more steam in the 2000-2001 school year, Smackdown 2, tony hawk 2, new Megaman X6 game , Final Fantasy 9, Dino Crisis 2 etc etc, when ps2 first came no one even had the system until Fall 2001 due to shortages, but yeah that 5th generation fatigue was real during this time. I actually hated n64 despite having every system at that time, too many long gaps waiting for games. N64 did have hype when it first came out but then slowly ps1 started beating its ass. PS1 absolutely destroyed the N64 in terms of sales. Like 1996 - 1997, the N64 was about just as popular if not more than the PS1 but, by 1998, Playstation was clearly king. My dad actually got a PS1 a year after getting the N64 because, back in the late 90s, he would walk into any store to get games and there were TONS of PS1 games but, Nintendo 64 games only took like a small corner lmao. by Fall 1997 it was ps1 country, I am trying to remember my mindset back that but I asked for ps1 before getting a n64 later that year and I must of asked for ps1 first because it was the superior machine in my mind. Those FF7 commercials even tho fraudulent lol Sold me on getting the system. Also the demo disc in stores made it look better it was just bad ass
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Post by jaydawg89 on Sept 19, 2020 16:49:40 GMT 10
PS1 absolutely destroyed the N64 in terms of sales. Like 1996 - 1997, the N64 was about just as popular if not more than the PS1 but, by 1998, Playstation was clearly king. My dad actually got a PS1 a year after getting the N64 because, back in the late 90s, he would walk into any store to get games and there were TONS of PS1 games but, Nintendo 64 games only took like a small corner lmao. by Fall 1997 it was ps1 country, I am trying to remember my mindset back that but I asked for ps1 before getting a n64 later that year and I must of asked for ps1 first because it was the superior machine in my mind. Those FF7 commercials even tho fraudulent lol Sold me on getting the system. Also the demo disc in stores made it look better it was just bad ass The PS1 just seemed like the 'cooler' system too. Using cartridges was one of Nintendo's biggest mistakes, I heard you would need like 21 N64 cartridges to store Final Fantasy VII, and that would cost roughly $1,260 (if my maths serves me right lol).
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