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Post by mc98 on Nov 9, 2020 2:26:33 GMT 10
Is the 2014/15 school year(September 2014 - May 2015) closer to early or late 2010s culture? I'm not counting the 2016-17 school year since it has a good amount of mid 2010s left. There are certain aspects that make the year closer to either early or late.
Politics: This could be a year where people can pinpoint the culture wars that was escalated in society and continued on today. The only thing that doesn't make it closer to the late 2010s is that no Trump until he announced his candidacy in June 2015.
Technology: Everyone has smartphones at this point. Instagram and Snapchat were widely used despite Facebook. 2014-15 was the last school year before Discord came out, Skype was still being used by millions of people.
Music: This was the year trap is starting to get chart success. The only thing is that the trap then sounded from the late 2010s, which was very muddy and bassy. EDM and pop were still the dominating genres in this school year.
Fashion: Hipster kept it's popularity going after reaching it's peak in the 2013-14 school year. Fashion was getting more minimal this year despite the campy hipster stuff still floating around.
Honestly, it felt like neither. This was the peak year of the mid 2010s in it's purest form. It doesn't lean early like 2013/14 or late 10s like 2015/16.
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Post by daywatch on Nov 9, 2020 2:56:37 GMT 10
Neither. 2014-2015 was the peak of mid 2010's culture without a doubt. I'll explain why if you need me to.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 9, 2020 3:21:52 GMT 10
Is the 2014/15 school year(September 2014 - May 2015) closer to early or late 2010s culture? I'm not counting the 2016-17 school year since it has a good amount of mid 2010s left. There are certain aspects that make the year closer to either early or late. Politics: This could be a year where people can pinpoint the culture wars that was escalated in society and continued on today. The only thing that doesn't make it closer to the late 2010s is that no Trump until he announced his candidacy in June 2015. Technology: Everyone has smartphones at this point. Instagram and Snapchat were widely used despite Facebook. 2014-15 was the last school year before Discord came out, Skype was still being used by millions of people. Music: This was the year trap is starting to get chart success. The only thing is that the trap then sounded from the late 2010s, which was very muddy and bassy. EDM and pop were still the dominating genres in this school year. Fashion: Hipster kept it's popularity going after reaching it's peak in the 2013-14 school year. Fashion was getting more minimal this year despite the campy hipster stuff still floating around. I think it was an almost entirely a mid 2010s world back then but there were a number of late 10s connections established that 2013-2014 didn't really have, and many influences from around 2011- early 2013 were either more officially dying, gone or considered slightly more dated than during 2013-2014. Only thing that comes to mind is: -A few alt right figures and talking points start surfacing and a few people starting to talk about the possibility of trump running -Gaming has clear console continuation links with the late 2010s. -Minimalized or toned down version of stereotypical 2010s fashion just starting to be more visible and have more presence by late 2014 which has carried into the present -A few musical connections or influences carried into late 2010s, but almost the same as 2013-2014, maybe a bit more. -Stereotypical hipsters are just starting to seem passe, articles written about the death of hipster in first half of 2015 -Yuccie and more casual and toned down hipster looks is starting to appear yet some degree of more colorful hipsters still remaining. You still saw this subdued late hipster style in late 2016-mid 2019 (possibly today) while it was gradually fading by the year.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 9, 2020 3:38:10 GMT 10
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Post by mc98 on Nov 9, 2020 4:22:04 GMT 10
Is the 2014/15 school year(September 2014 - May 2015) closer to early or late 2010s culture? I'm not counting the 2016-17 school year since it has a good amount of mid 2010s left. There are certain aspects that make the year closer to either early or late. Politics: This could be a year where people can pinpoint the culture wars that was escalated in society and continued on today. The only thing that doesn't make it closer to the late 2010s is that no Trump until he announced his candidacy in June 2015. Technology: Everyone has smartphones at this point. Instagram and Snapchat were widely used despite Facebook. 2014-15 was the last school year before Discord came out, Skype was still being used by millions of people. Music: This was the year trap is starting to get chart success. The only thing is that the trap then sounded from the late 2010s, which was very muddy and bassy. EDM and pop were still the dominating genres in this school year. Fashion: Hipster kept it's popularity going after reaching it's peak in the 2013-14 school year. Fashion was getting more minimal this year despite the campy hipster stuff still floating around. I think it was an almost entirely a mid 2010s world back then but there were a number of late 10s connections established that 2013-2014 didn't really have, and many influences from around 2011- early 2013 were either more officially dying, gone or considered slightly more dated than during 2013-2014. Only thing that comes to mind is: -A few alt right figures and talking points start surfacing and a few people starting to talk about the possibility of trump running -Gaming has clear console continuation links with the late 2010s. -Minimalized or toned down version of stereotypical 2010s fashion just starting to be more visible and have more presence by late 2014 which has carried into the present -A few musical connections or influences carried into late 2010s, but almost the same as 2013-2014, maybe a bit more. -Stereotypical hipsters are just starting to seem passe, articles written about the death of hipster in first half of 2015 -Yuccie and more casual and toned down hipster looks is starting to appear yet some degree of more colorful hipsters still remaining. You still saw this subdued late hipster style in late 2016-mid 2019 (possibly today) while it was gradually fading by the year. Yeah, 2013-2014 still had connections with the early 2010s. 2014-2015 mostly stands on it's own not leaning strongly of the two eras.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 9, 2020 4:45:58 GMT 10
I think it was an almost entirely a mid 2010s world back then but there were a number of late 10s connections established that 2013-2014 didn't really have, and many influences from around 2011- early 2013 were either more officially dying, gone or considered slightly more dated than during 2013-2014. Only thing that comes to mind is: -A few alt right figures and talking points start surfacing and a few people starting to talk about the possibility of trump running -Gaming has clear console continuation links with the late 2010s. -Minimalized or toned down version of stereotypical 2010s fashion just starting to be more visible and have more presence by late 2014 which has carried into the present -A few musical connections or influences carried into late 2010s, but almost the same as 2013-2014, maybe a bit more. -Stereotypical hipsters are just starting to seem passe, articles written about the death of hipster in first half of 2015 -Yuccie and more casual and toned down hipster looks is starting to appear yet some degree of more colorful hipsters still remaining. You still saw this subdued late hipster style in late 2016-mid 2019 (possibly today) while it was gradually fading by the year. Yeah, 2013-2014 still had connections with the early 2010s. 2014-2015 mostly stands on it's own not leaning strongly of the two eras. I would say its leaning towards the late a bit, deserves credit for the first period to be slightly leaning towards the late 2010s. 2015-2016 is more officially leaning to the late though. Regardless t’s fair to say that that 2014-2015 is leaning to late despite being entirely a mid 2010s year in any case. I think the mid 2010s is actually a very short period but has a much longer ripple effect (late 2016 till now) Although its kind of difficult to pinpoint it exactly, the absolute purest mid 2010s could be something like around spring to autumn 2014.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 9, 2020 5:28:33 GMT 10
Yeah, 2013-2014 still had connections with the early 2010s. 2014-2015 mostly stands on it's own not leaning strongly of the two eras. I would say its leaning towards the late a bit, deserves credit for the first period to be slightly leaning towards the late 2010s. 2015-2016 is more officially leaning to the late though. Regardless t’s fair to say that that 2014-2015 is leaning to late despite being entirely a mid 2010s year in any case. I think the mid 2010s is actually a very short period but has a much longer ripple effect (late 2016 till now) Although its kind of difficult to pinpoint it exactly, the absolute purest mid 2010s could be something like around spring to autumn 2014. That's fair. Like I said, 2014-2015 school year doesn't have much early 10s influences or enough upcoming late 2010s. Yes, there were late influences coming in 2014-15 but they can be seen as short fads at the time. 2015-16 gives a clearer view of what the late 2010s will be about.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 9, 2020 5:54:33 GMT 10
I would say its leaning towards the late a bit, deserves credit for the first period to be slightly leaning towards the late 2010s. 2015-2016 is more officially leaning to the late though. Regardless t’s fair to say that that 2014-2015 is leaning to late despite being entirely a mid 2010s year in any case. I think the mid 2010s is actually a very short period but has a much longer ripple effect (late 2016 till now) Although its kind of difficult to pinpoint it exactly, the absolute purest mid 2010s could be something like around spring to autumn 2014. That's fair. Like I said, 2014-2015 school year doesn't have much early 10s influences or enough upcoming late 2010s. Yes, there were late influences coming in 2014-15 but they can be seen as short fads at the time. 2015-16 gives a clearer view of what the late 2010s will be about. I think very late 2014 to summer 2015, regardless of school year, is the first period to have some degree of incoming late 2010s connections and directions at least if not anything else, in a literally , pure mid 2010s period. I would they are starting points or minor but somewhat noticeable changes, I personally wouldn't see them as fads nor serious game changers, you could say minor shifts, until a few years later, but they literally date to this period, it find it hard to deny that they first appeared in this period. . I think both late 2014-2015 and 2015-2016 tend to be ignored for their incoming late 2010s elements. 2015-2016 especially. I find it hard to pin 2015-2016 as pure mid 2010s year but more of transitional year even if its technically mid 2010s. Literally all of late 2015-mid 2016 feels like one big transitional mid 2010s year, that actually feels deeply connected to with late 2016 early 2017 imo, thats why it was almost a bit tricky to identify the break in late 2016, it was almost artificial without trump.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 9, 2020 10:05:09 GMT 10
That's fair. Like I said, 2014-2015 school year doesn't have much early 10s influences or enough upcoming late 2010s. Yes, there were late influences coming in 2014-15 but they can be seen as short fads at the time. 2015-16 gives a clearer view of what the late 2010s will be about. I think very late 2014 to summer 2015, regardless of school year, is the first period to have some degree of incoming late 2010s connections and directions at least if not anything else, in a literally , pure mid 2010s period. I would they are starting points or minor but somewhat noticeable changes, I personally wouldn't see them as fads nor serious game changers, you could say minor shifts, until a few years later, but they literally date to this period, it find it hard to deny that they first appeared in this period. . I think both late 2014-2015 and 2015-2016 tend to be ignored for their incoming late 2010s elements. 2015-2016 especially. I find it hard to pin 2015-2016 as pure mid 2010s year but more of transitional year even if its technically mid 2010s. Literally all of late 2015-mid 2016 feels like one big transitional mid 2010s year, that actually feels deeply connected to with late 2016 early 2017 imo, thats why it was almost a bit tricky to identify the break in late 2016, it was almost artificial without trump. You have a point of 2014-2015 being the earliest connection with the late 2010s. Like I said, trap was getting chart success with acts like Fetty Wap and Rae Sremmurd. You could also argue that 2014-15 was the last school year with any sort of connections with the early 2010s, regardless if it's weak. 2015-2016 didn't really feel different from 2014-2015, it's mostly the same with just minor upgrades. Even stuff from 2013-2014 lingered into 2015-2016. I can agree fall 2015 - summer 2016 wasn't purely mid 2010s, it felt like a trailer for the late 2010s. Fall 2016 - mid 2017 really set us in the era that lasted until now, even though 2016-2017 was significantly more connected with the mid 2010s, not predominantly late 2010s imo.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 11, 2020 1:39:34 GMT 10
I think very late 2014 to summer 2015, regardless of school year, is the first period to have some degree of incoming late 2010s connections and directions at least if not anything else, in a literally , pure mid 2010s period. I would they are starting points or minor but somewhat noticeable changes, I personally wouldn't see them as fads nor serious game changers, you could say minor shifts, until a few years later, but they literally date to this period, it find it hard to deny that they first appeared in this period. . I think both late 2014-2015 and 2015-2016 tend to be ignored for their incoming late 2010s elements. 2015-2016 especially. I find it hard to pin 2015-2016 as pure mid 2010s year but more of transitional year even if its technically mid 2010s. Literally all of late 2015-mid 2016 feels like one big transitional mid 2010s year, that actually feels deeply connected to with late 2016 early 2017 imo, thats why it was almost a bit tricky to identify the break in late 2016, it was almost artificial without trump. You have a point of 2014-2015 being the earliest connection with the late 2010s. Like I said, trap was getting chart success with acts like Fetty Wap and Rae Sremmurd. You could also argue that 2014-15 was the last school year with any sort of connections with the early 2010s, regardless if it's weak. 2015-2016 didn't really feel different from 2014-2015, it's mostly the same with just minor upgrades. Even stuff from 2013-2014 lingered into 2015-2016. I can agree fall 2015 - summer 2016 wasn't purely mid 2010s, it felt like a trailer for the late 2010s. Fall 2016 - mid 2017 really set us in the era that lasted until now, even though 2016-2017 was significantly more connected with the mid 2010s, not predominantly late 2010s imo. Yeah I generally agree. But I don’t see much of difference between the second half of 2015, early, mid and late 2016 and the very start of 2017. Trump winning didn’t really shift pop culture, I can't remember anything new or distinct that made it feel different from mid 2016. Every from late 2016 was in proper effect in late winter/spring 2017. The culture from mid 2015 to the very start of 2017 was pretty much identical. Just the mid 2010s without the intensity and some more official and visible late 10s elements and transitions than 2014-2015. Tbh I felt like people gloss over how mid 2010s late 2012 to mid 2013 was. We were literally almost officially mid 2010s by early 2013. You’d be surprised at how many things from late 2012 can be identical to mid to late 2013 and early 2014. I think 2012-2013 and 2013-2014 have more in common with each other. Despite one being early but leaning mid and other being mid but leaning early to some extent.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 11, 2020 1:54:21 GMT 10
You have a point of 2014-2015 being the earliest connection with the late 2010s. Like I said, trap was getting chart success with acts like Fetty Wap and Rae Sremmurd. You could also argue that 2014-15 was the last school year with any sort of connections with the early 2010s, regardless if it's weak. 2015-2016 didn't really feel different from 2014-2015, it's mostly the same with just minor upgrades. Even stuff from 2013-2014 lingered into 2015-2016. I can agree fall 2015 - summer 2016 wasn't purely mid 2010s, it felt like a trailer for the late 2010s. Fall 2016 - mid 2017 really set us in the era that lasted until now, even though 2016-2017 was significantly more connected with the mid 2010s, not predominantly late 2010s imo. Yeah I generally agree. But I don’t see much of difference between the second half of 2015, early, mid and late 2016 and the very start of 2017. Trump winning didn’t really shift pop culture, I can't remember anything new or distinct that made it feel different from mid 2016. Every from late 2016 was in proper effect in late winter/spring 2017. The culture from mid 2015 to the very start of 2017 was pretty much identical. Just the mid 2010s without the intensity and some more official and visible late 10s elements and transitions than 2014-2015. Tbh I felt like people gloss over how mid 2010s late 2012 to mid 2013 was. We were literally almost officially mid 2010s by early 2013. You’d be surprised at how many things from late 2012 can be identical to mid to late 2013 and early 2014. I think 2012-2013 and 2013-2014 have more in common with each other. Despite one being early but leaning late and other being mid but leaning early to some extent. Tbh, 2012-2013 was leaning early 2010s and it was almost the same as late 2011-mid 2012, but there are elements of mid 2010s coming in. You are right that 2013-2014 has more in common with 2012-2013 than the following school year aesthetic-wise. 2014-2015 has a minimal vibe, you don't really see much of the over-the-top stuff you see in 2013-2014. Mid 2015 - Very early 2017 also has the same vibe. Around spring 2017 to winter 2017/18 was when the late 2010s start to take over mid 2010s.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 11, 2020 2:17:40 GMT 10
Yeah I generally agree. But I don’t see much of difference between the second half of 2015, early, mid and late 2016 and the very start of 2017. Trump winning didn’t really shift pop culture, I can't remember anything new or distinct that made it feel different from mid 2016. Every from late 2016 was in proper effect in late winter/spring 2017. The culture from mid 2015 to the very start of 2017 was pretty much identical. Just the mid 2010s without the intensity and some more official and visible late 10s elements and transitions than 2014-2015. Tbh I felt like people gloss over how mid 2010s late 2012 to mid 2013 was. We were literally almost officially mid 2010s by early 2013. You’d be surprised at how many things from late 2012 can be identical to mid to late 2013 and early 2014. I think 2012-2013 and 2013-2014 have more in common with each other. Despite one being early but leaning late and other being mid but leaning early to some extent. Tbh, 2012-2013 was leaning early 2010s and it was almost the same as late 2011-mid 2012, but there are elements of mid 2010s coming in. You are right that 2013-2014 has more in common with 2012-2013 than the following school year aesthetic-wise. 2014-2015 has a minimal vibe, you don't really see much of the over-the-top stuff you see in 2013-2014. Mid 2015 - Very early 2017 also has the same vibe. Around spring 2017 to winter 2017/18 was when the late 2010s start to take over mid 2010s. Yeah i mentioned that 2012-2013, was early but leaning mid (might have been a typo). People underestimate just how late 2012 is connected to the start of the mid 2010s. It was not this pure early 2010s world in late 2012 and early 2013 it just wasn't. I find it hard to isolate late 2012 from 2013/2014, there were far too many core and transitional aspects to that period. May 2014 to around October 2014 is probably the purest mid 2010s, where it's not leaning to either early or late enough compared to it's surroundings periods. Yeah mid 2015 pretty much set the standard for a while, you could feel the core 2010s identity was slightly refined. I would say late winter/spring 2017 to early fall of the same would be the transition or early phase of the late 2010s, and there clearer and noticeable pop cultural changes on multiple levels than mid 2016 to the start of 2017. Honestly 2018 to the present is still just diluted version of 2015, which is still almost the base, the more farther you are from that year the more diluted but still diluted not different, of course with some trends that died and some political paradigms that have changed and random shifts here and there across numerous things. I've yet to see drastic enough of reshaping of decade identity yet.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 11, 2020 2:35:35 GMT 10
Tbh, 2012-2013 was leaning early 2010s and it was almost the same as late 2011-mid 2012, but there are elements of mid 2010s coming in. You are right that 2013-2014 has more in common with 2012-2013 than the following school year aesthetic-wise. 2014-2015 has a minimal vibe, you don't really see much of the over-the-top stuff you see in 2013-2014. Mid 2015 - Very early 2017 also has the same vibe. Around spring 2017 to winter 2017/18 was when the late 2010s start to take over mid 2010s. Yeah i mentioned that 2012-2013, was early but leaning mid (might have been a typo). People underestimate just how late 2012 is connected to the start of the mid 2010s. It was not this pure early 2010s world in late 2012 and early 2013 it just wasn't. I find it hard to isolate late 2012 from 2013/2014, there were far too many core and transitional aspects to that period. May 2014 to around October 2014 is probably the purest mid 2010s, where it's not leaning to either early or late enough compared to it's surroundings periods. Yeah mid 2015 pretty much set the standard for a while, you could feel the core 2010s identity was slightly refined. I would say late winter/spring 2017 to early fall of the same would be the transition or early phase of the late 2010s, and there clearer and noticeable pop cultural changes on multiple levels than mid 2016 to the start of 2017. Honestly 2018 to the present is still just diluted version of 2015, which is still almost the base, the more farther you are from that year the more diluted but still diluted not different, of course with some trends that died and some political paradigms that have changed and random shifts here and there across numerous things. I've yet to see drastic enough of reshaping of decade identity yet. There are things that differentiate 2018 from 2015. Sure, it's not two different worlds and still has something in common but you can spot the difference without squinting your eyes. What period do you see is the purest early 2010s not leaning late 2000s or mid 2010s? I would say around winter 2010/11 - summer 2011 or fall 2011-summer 2012 depending on what you lean towards.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 11, 2020 2:43:05 GMT 10
Yeah i mentioned that 2012-2013, was early but leaning mid (might have been a typo). People underestimate just how late 2012 is connected to the start of the mid 2010s. It was not this pure early 2010s world in late 2012 and early 2013 it just wasn't. I find it hard to isolate late 2012 from 2013/2014, there were far too many core and transitional aspects to that period. May 2014 to around October 2014 is probably the purest mid 2010s, where it's not leaning to either early or late enough compared to it's surroundings periods. Yeah mid 2015 pretty much set the standard for a while, you could feel the core 2010s identity was slightly refined. I would say late winter/spring 2017 to early fall of the same would be the transition or early phase of the late 2010s, and there clearer and noticeable pop cultural changes on multiple levels than mid 2016 to the start of 2017. Honestly 2018 to the present is still just diluted version of 2015, which is still almost the base, the more farther you are from that year the more diluted but still diluted not different, of course with some trends that died and some political paradigms that have changed and random shifts here and there across numerous things. I've yet to see drastic enough of reshaping of decade identity yet. There are things that differentiate 2018 from 2015. Sure, it's not two different worlds and still has something in common but you can spot the difference without squinting your eyes. What period so you see is the purest early 2010s not leaning late 2000s or mid 2010s? I would say around Spring 2011 - Summer 2012. Oh of course there are clear differences I’m talking about the most basic identity. Purest early 2010s would be spring 2010 to first half of 2012. late 2009 to very early 2010 was fully 10s but there were a few more noticeable late 00s things. Most of the second half of 2012 was transitional or close to it.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 11, 2020 2:56:28 GMT 10
There are things that differentiate 2018 from 2015. Sure, it's not two different worlds and still has something in common but you can spot the difference without squinting your eyes. What period so you see is the purest early 2010s not leaning late 2000s or mid 2010s? I would say around Spring 2011 - Summer 2012. Oh of course there are clear differences I’m talking about the most basic identity. Purest early 2010s would be spring 2010 to first half of 2012. late 2009 to very early 2010 was fully 10s but there were a few more noticeable late 00s things. Most of the second half of 2012 was transitional or close to it. Late 2009 - March 2010 still has a visible late 00s atmosphere lingering on despite leaning early 2010s. A lot of people still had scene/flashy looks. Things were getting a bit more relaxed in mid-late 2010 aesthetically. I feel like around spring-summer 2010 was when you are really sure the early 2010s arrived.
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