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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 9:38:58 GMT 10
I believe the COVID-19 pandemic is a once-per-century event that has and will continue to alter the course of history and the direction of culture. This pandemic is such a high-end event that in the US, I would say the only other comparisons are the impact of the Great Depression/WWII and the U.S. Civil War.
A few years from now people will no longer look at 2020 as simply an extension of the late 2010s. 2020 has been a seismic shift and everything before is history at this point. Yes, music is lagging but I think in a few years it will be unrecognizable compared to today. Day to day life in general will be unrecognizable in 2030 compared to how it was in 2019. We will all divide our lives into "before 2020" and "after 2020."
The pre-1929 world never came back after WWII. The same will be for whatever comes after the Covid-Trumpocalypse era. I don't think the economy will come back until the mid 2030s at best. If Trump manages to stay in power despite losing the election, which is something that seems to be becoming more and more likely by the day, we're going to see some extremely unprecedented times and not any of it is good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2020 12:51:05 GMT 10
I agree that the world has been changed forever, by the pandemic but also by the cataclysmic events that took place in its midst (George Floyd protests, 2020 election etc.)
However, I'm certain the economy will rebound quickly. The main industries impacted are restaurants, bars, tourism etc. There's every reason to believe people will crowd into these spaces when the pandemic ends, and if not, it won't be because of lack of money but because lifestyles have changed (more WFH), so I don't see any permanent damage.
I also disagree that this is the last pandemic. They're going to become more common and perhaps even more severe (COVID-19 is a Category 1 pandemic on the WHO's pandemic severity scale; the weakest kind). This is because China is continuing to keep live animals in unsanitary, crowded conditions. These diseases used to remain just in China, but in this more globalized economy it puts the entire world at risk. Not just China but also the industrialization of animal farms that has been accelerating since 1970 globally. Cows, chicken, pigs are kept in indoor barns in very unsanitary, crowded and inhumane conditions which is virus heaven, they are pandemics in-waiting. I predict another pandemic in less than 20 years time tbh.
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Post by sman12 on Nov 20, 2020 13:56:21 GMT 10
This is definitely an event people will not forget in their lifetimes. The 2009 swine flu, as widespread as that disease was, didn't radically upset life like this one did. In fact, I think 2020 will go down as one of the most significant turning point years in human history with not just the pandemic, but the Floyd protests and this election as well.
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Post by slashpop on Nov 20, 2020 20:52:49 GMT 10
I don't see 2020 as anything more than a staler version of 2019, with a bit less stereotypical 2010s elements, devoid of substantial new pop culture, meaningful shifts and interesting tech.
I don't think politics and COVID have changed pop culture other than keeping it stagnant this year. Nothing has really changed anything in terms of pop culture with the exception of possiblity of Biden changing things in 2021 and a possibility that a vaccine that can end this era and we can go back to normal.
While politics, economics, disasters and epidemics can have a influence in popular culture, especially with extremes, I don't see them as ever being the entire centerpoint of it with a few exceptions, I feel like a lot of people get confused with that and attribute things like dot com bubble bursting, 2008 crisis, and 9/11 with wayy to have WAYYY more pop culture influence than deserved. I think pop culture centers on music, fashion, technology entertainment, collective generational attitudes. Sure the left, right influence from the obama, bush or trump era or a particular event can all have a ripple effect in influencing and shaping things to a degree, but I won't give them more credit than deserved.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 11:33:45 GMT 10
I agree that the world has been changed forever, by the pandemic but also by the cataclysmic events that took place in its midst (George Floyd protests, 2020 election etc.) However, I'm certain the economy will rebound quickly. The main industries impacted are restaurants, bars, tourism etc. There's every reason to believe people will crowd into these spaces when the pandemic ends, and if not, it won't be because of lack of money but because lifestyles have changed (more WFH), so I don't see any permanent damage. I also disagree that this is the last pandemic. They're going to become more common and perhaps even more severe (COVID-19 is a Category 1 pandemic on the WHO's pandemic severity scale; the weakest kind). This is because China is continuing to keep live animals in unsanitary, crowded conditions. These diseases used to remain just in China, but in this more globalized economy it puts the entire world at risk. Not just China but also the industrialization of animal farms that has been accelerating since 1970 globally. Cows, chicken, pigs are kept in indoor barns in very unsanitary, crowded and inhumane conditions which is virus heaven, they are pandemics in-waiting. I predict another pandemic in less than 20 years time tbh. And with climate change, the return of viruses that have been dormant for millions of years, hooray!
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