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Post by John Titor on Dec 8, 2020 11:37:00 GMT 10
I know some people are going to have different opinions. Those of us who were there @slowpoke slashpop jaydawg89 and myself might have similiar vibes in saying it died in the 90s. For me it had to been from Late 96/1997. We could now play 3d arcade games in our home with the MEGA Power HOUSE Playstation being the home to fighters. We were already seeing almost arcade ports in 95 and 96 with early Sega Saturn and ps1 fighters but by 97 ps1 kind of became a staple. By 1995 Mortal Kombat 3 was almost arcade perfect on 4th generation systems so all we needed was a reason for 3d to come. I remember walking into the arcade and seeing TEKKEN 3 and Mortal Kombat 4 in 1997 and thinking......... These are coming to ps1 in a few weeks why would anyone come here!
Around 1999 DDR kind of revitalized the arcade in a way because they were close to be extinct.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 8, 2020 18:49:35 GMT 10
I know some people are going to have different opinions. Those of us who were there @slowpoke slashpop jaydawg89 and myself might have similiar vibes in saying it died in the 90s. For me it had to been from Late 96/1997. We could now play 3d arcade games in our home with the MEGA Power HOUSE Playstation being the home to fighters. We were already seeing almost arcade ports in 95 and 96 with early Sega Saturn and ps1 fighters but by 97 ps1 kind of became a staple. By 1995 Mortal Kombat 3 was almost arcade perfect on 4th generation systems so all we needed was a reason for 3d to come. I remember walking into the arcade and seeing TEKKEN 3 and Mortal Kombat 4 in 1997 and thinking......... These are coming to ps1 in a few weeks why would anyone come here!
Around 1999 DDR kind of revitalized the arcade in a way because they were close to be extinct.
Tekken 3 came out a year later on the ps1 though ! Mortal Kombat 4 the same I think. I remember house of the dead, crusin world, die hard arcade, metal slug, dead or alive 2, rampage world tour, king of fighters 97, tekken 3 were still massive arcade games and arcade culture still big then with way way better graphics than the ps1, n64 and pc. I would by late 97-98 you could feel a slight loss, the arcade culture and variety was clearly declining a bit but still hanging and really popular in late 1998 to early 2000. I think arcades lost their allure between 2000-2001 and 2001-2002 when you had enough systems ( ps2, Xbox, GameCube) near identical graphics and less seriously notable titles like in the 80s and 90s.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 6:00:44 GMT 10
I think they peaked in the late 1970s/early 1980s and then gradually declined from there.
I wouldn't say they were dead in the 2000s since DDR was such a big force in the mid-late 2000s. There were others too, mainly Time Crisis and some Resident Evil game I can't remember the full name of. There was a Mario Kart in early 2010s.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 9, 2020 7:37:29 GMT 10
I think they peaked in the late 1970s/early 1980s and then gradually declined from there. I wouldn't say they were dead in the 2000s since DDR was such a big force in the mid-late 2000s. There were others too, mainly Time Crisis and some Resident Evil game I can't remember the full name of. There was a Mario Kart in early 2010s. Apparently the narrative is by some point in 1984 arcades were dying and their was a strong dip in popularity , as they were deemed uncool due to bring linked to the video game crash of 1983. But I find this to be quite strange because arcades had groundbreaking hits that set the stage for the next decade around that time with punch out, 1942 marble madness, gradius, commando, ghost n goblins etc I guess it just wasn’t as big as before, but still big, and atari games were out. I don’t think arcades were dead in the 2000s just less popular and essential to visit like earlier and not having the same 80s/90s social culture.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Dec 9, 2020 8:38:55 GMT 10
They definitely had a huge drop off around 1996/1997, when the fighting game hysteria started to rub off and everyone started buying 3D game consoles.
The arcades were really packed in 1995 going by memory and I remember a lot of my peers always went there. Meanwhile, I only knew very few people that actually went to the arcades in 1998, to add, my friends and I were pretty big gamers too.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 9, 2020 8:52:18 GMT 10
They definitely had a huge drop off around 1996/1997, when the fighting game hysteria started to rub off and everyone started buying 3D game consoles. The arcades were really packed in 1995 going by memory and I remember a lot of my peers always went there. Meanwhile, I only knew very few people that actually went to the arcades in 1998, to add, my friends and I were pretty big gamers too. yupp that is what I thought. I remember my eyeballs popping out of my head seeing MK 4........ I didn't even see it in the magazine ! It just appeared in the arcade without warning in 97! As soon as Tekken starting popping off people were like F this I am getting a Playstation. I call it fighter mania. If you were into fighters you HAD to get playstation.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 9, 2020 14:20:39 GMT 10
They definitely had a huge drop off around 1996/1997, when the fighting game hysteria started to rub off and everyone started buying 3D game consoles. The arcades were really packed in 1995 going by memory and I remember a lot of my peers always went there. Meanwhile, I only knew very few people that actually went to the arcades in 1998, to add, my friends and I were pretty big gamers too. There were some pretty solid games though around then, I personally wouldn’t call it “huge drop” or much of drop. Games like house of the dead, killer instinct 2, die hard trilogy, metal slug and tekken 3 were strong enough to draw people in, at least for a while, and quite refreshing experience compared to 95/96. A number a games boasted graphics comparable or better than the Dreamcast, and were definitely better than what the consoles offered, which people were just beginning to adopt. If anything the golden age of 90s arcade gaming lasted from 1989-1990 to 1994/1995. I don’t see much of difference between 95/96 and 96/97, even if 95/96 was slightly leaning more to the latter. Infact I remember a stale feeling in 1995/1996, and wanted more 3d games like wipeout. I remember noticing a change in 1997-1998 if anything, I was a frequent sega city palladium user around then infact earlier. I was older around this time and have beaten some games with a few quarters.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 9, 2020 14:54:28 GMT 10
They definitely had a huge drop off around 1996/1997, when the fighting game hysteria started to rub off and everyone started buying 3D game consoles. The arcades were really packed in 1995 going by memory and I remember a lot of my peers always went there. Meanwhile, I only knew very few people that actually went to the arcades in 1998, to add, my friends and I were pretty big gamers too. There were some pretty solid games though around then, I personally wouldn’t call it “huge drop” or much of drop. Games like house of the dead, killer instinct 2, die hard trilogy, metal slug and tekken 3 were strong enough to draw people in, at least for a while, and quite refreshing experience compared to 95/96. A number a games boasted graphics comparable or better than the Dreamcast, and were definitely better than what the consoles offered, which people were just beginning to adopt. If anything the golden age of 90s arcade gaming lasted from 1989-1990 to 1994/1995. I don’t see much of difference between 95/96 and 96/97, even if 95/96 was slightly leaning more to the latter. Infact I remember a stale feeling in 1995/1996, and wanted more 3d games like wipeout. I remember noticing a change in 1997-1998 if anything, I was a frequent sega city palladium user around then infact earlier. I was older around this time and have beaten some games with a few quarters. I few arcades around Jersey closed in 1997 ironically , I think that week I played MK 4 was the last week
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Post by slashpop on Dec 9, 2020 15:06:45 GMT 10
There were some pretty solid games though around then, I personally wouldn’t call it “huge drop” or much of drop. Games like house of the dead, killer instinct 2, die hard trilogy, metal slug and tekken 3 were strong enough to draw people in, at least for a while, and quite refreshing experience compared to 95/96. A number a games boasted graphics comparable or better than the Dreamcast, and were definitely better than what the consoles offered, which people were just beginning to adopt. If anything the golden age of 90s arcade gaming lasted from 1989-1990 to 1994/1995. I don’t see much of difference between 95/96 and 96/97, even if 95/96 was slightly leaning more to the latter. Infact I remember a stale feeling in 1995/1996, and wanted more 3d games like wipeout. I remember noticing a change in 1997-1998 if anything, I was a frequent sega city palladium user around then infact earlier. I was older around this time and have beaten some games with a few quarters. I few arcades around Jersey closed in 1997 ironically , I think that week I played MK 4 was the last week 1997-1998 I would understand maybe it just closed down.. lol. 1996-1997 in addition to casual gamers still experiencing 3d for the first time or getting a rush out of it in the arcades, there was a big difference between new consoles and arcade and a few really good games that held people in for a while. I was an early teen and visiting arcades weekly throughout 1995 to 1997. I remember visiting Albany in NY and other parts of New York by bus back then, it’s just a few hours away, and going to a few malls and arcades during spring 1997. Places were still packed as Toronto.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 0:45:41 GMT 10
I don't know that they ever did. Until COVID-19 hit, arcades were actually experiencing a pretty significant resurgence thanks to chains like Dave & Busters.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 27, 2020 1:24:52 GMT 10
I don't know that they ever did. Until COVID-19 hit, arcades were actually experiencing a pretty significant resurgence thanks to chains like Dave & Busters. They definitely felt different, less populated and less of place to hang out and check out games by 1998. By 2003 the older era was mostly gone if not entirely dead, arcades games with a few exceptions, like dance dance revolution, start to lose that coming back for more feeling, they feel like kids birthday party spots than arcades. 2008-2015 machines felt cheaper and more focused on cheaper quality quick games and ticket oriented machines for kids. Around 2015-2017 to present before covid you see a rise of a few more interesting titles, enjoyable immersive VR games and surge of new retro arcade bars and pinball places and a lot more people restoring old stuff from the 1970s to the early 2000s which is good imo.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 14:33:17 GMT 10
I don't know that they ever did. Until COVID-19 hit, arcades were actually experiencing a pretty significant resurgence thanks to chains like Dave & Busters. Okay I thought the last time I went to an arcade was in 2010 but now that you mention it I have been to a few barcades as an adult. Most the games were vintage though.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 27, 2020 20:00:21 GMT 10
I don't know that they ever did. Until COVID-19 hit, arcades were actually experiencing a pretty significant resurgence thanks to chains like Dave & Busters. Okay I thought the last time I went to an arcade was in 2010 but now that you mention it I have been to a few barcades as an adult. Most the games were vintage though. I wish this happened 10 or 15 years ago. There were like at least 3-4 places in Toronto last year when I went back. It's the coolest thing ever to play your favorite games from 2001, 1995, 1989 on the original cabinet for nothing or for the cost of beer without coins. I remember playing the original punch out and altered beast in one of the places, forget which one.
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Post by astropoug on Jul 7, 2021 8:39:51 GMT 10
I think Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance was the final nail in the coffin for arcades, as the game was ONLY released for home consoles. Contrast that with the old-school Mortal Kombat games like 1 and 2 where it was just better on arcades.
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Post by John Titor on Jul 8, 2021 1:24:35 GMT 10
Small drop off around 1996 (around the time n64 and ps1 were becoming the focus of peoples homes ) people still played SNES tho
Massive Drop off around the time Tekken 3 and MK 4 came out, kind of sustained itself with DDR as years went on but it was never the same, of course
there is Dave N Busters and stuff but you know what I mean, like the mall arcade.
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