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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 6, 2021 8:16:47 GMT 10
This was something I was thinking about the other day. If you were to be teleported back to 2013, pandemic aside of course, the world wouldn't actually be that different.
By that point, Snapchat and Instagram had both rose in popularity to become the most popular social media sites, selfies had become a huge fad by March/April of that year and continue to remain popular to this day, #hashtags had become totally mainstream etc. The technology that we use today generally isn't any different to what was around back then. Also, both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were released in 2013, which meant that the gaming world had already fully transitioned to the 8th generation of consoles. "GTA V" was one of the best-selling video games of 2013, as it was seven years later in 2020.
To me, 2012 feels further removed from the world of today than what 2013 does, despite it only being a one year difference. During my first few months of high school in early 2012, smartphones were still a bit of a novelty and kids on the bus would compare each other's smartphones. Scene was still relevant; there were a couple of kids in my grade who sported the emo swoop. Things like electropop, dubstep and the "Hunger Games" were hugely popular. Overall, 2012 was still very much a Millennial cultural world, whereas 2013 was arguably the first year of the transition between Millennial and Gen Z culture. That in itself is part of the reason as for why 2013 seems more 'relatable'.
Considering the fact that 2013 is now eight years ago, it has aged very well. In comparison, 2008 felt very outdated and had little in common with the world of 2016 when the former was eight years ago. Of course, there have been changes in pop culture and society in general since 2013, however it hasn't been anything drastic (with the exception of the pandemic).
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Post by bestmvp29 on Feb 6, 2021 9:27:22 GMT 10
This was something I was thinking about the other day. If you were to be teleported back to 2013, pandemic aside of course, the world wouldn't actually be that different. By that point, Snapchat and Instagram had both rose in popularity to become the most popular social media sites, selfies had become a huge fad by March/April of that year and continue to remain popular to this day, #hashtags had become totally mainstream etc. The technology that we use today generally isn't any different to what was around back then. Also, both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were released in 2013, which meant that the gaming world had already fully transitioned to the 8th generation of consoles. "GTA V" was one of the best-selling video games of 2013, as it was seven years later in 2020. To me, 2012 feels further removed from the world of today than what 2013 does, despite it only being a one year difference. During my first few months of high school in early 2012, smartphones were still a bit of a novelty and kids on the bus would compare each other's smartphones. Scene was still relevant; there were a couple of kids in my grade who sported the emo swoop. Things like electropop, dubstep and the "Hunger Games" were hugely popular. Overall, 2012 was still very much a Millennial cultural world, whereas 2013 was arguably the first year of the transition between Millennial and Gen Z culture. That in itself is part of the reason as for why 2013 seems more 'relatable'. Considering the fact that 2013 is now eight years ago, it has aged very well. In comparison, 2008 felt very outdated and had little in common with the world of 2016 when the former was eight years ago. Of course, there have been changes in pop culture and society in general since 2013, however it hasn't been anything drastic (with the exception of the pandemic). I agree. 2013 is the very earliest year that has any cultural relevance to 2021. You made good points for this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 11:19:18 GMT 10
This was something I was thinking about the other day. If you were to be teleported back to 2013, pandemic aside of course, the world wouldn't actually be that different. By that point, Snapchat and Instagram had both rose in popularity to become the most popular social media sites, selfies had become a huge fad by March/April of that year and continue to remain popular to this day, #hashtags had become totally mainstream etc. The technology that we use today generally isn't any different to what was around back then. Also, both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were released in 2013, which meant that the gaming world had already fully transitioned to the 8th generation of consoles. "GTA V" was one of the best-selling video games of 2013, as it was seven years later in 2020. To me, 2012 feels further removed from the world of today than what 2013 does, despite it only being a one year difference. During my first few months of high school in early 2012, smartphones were still a bit of a novelty and kids on the bus would compare each other's smartphones. Scene was still relevant; there were a couple of kids in my grade who sported the emo swoop. Things like electropop, dubstep and the "Hunger Games" were hugely popular. Overall, 2012 was still very much a Millennial cultural world, whereas 2013 was arguably the first year of the transition between Millennial and Gen Z culture. That in itself is part of the reason as for why 2013 seems more 'relatable'. Considering the fact that 2013 is now eight years ago, it has aged very well. In comparison, 2008 felt very outdated and had little in common with the world of 2016 when the former was eight years ago. Of course, there have been changes in pop culture and society in general since 2013, however it hasn't been anything drastic (with the exception of the pandemic). Interesting topic. I don't think there's a lot of cultural similarities, but I get where you are coming from though. 2013 was a pretty stark departure from 2008-2012. I also think the pandemic has changed the world so much that it's hard to compare now with any time before March 2020. Life before March 2020 literally seems like a dream. Almost unreal. I don't think a movie like 'The Hunger Games' or other similar movies depicting dark, dystopian future timelines would be hits today because we are literally living that kind of future. The mid 2010s were dominated by these kinds of movies. I associate 'The Hunger Games' more with the mid '10s than the late '00s/early '10s. I had to stop watching 'A Handmaid's Tale' because it just became too realistic, and that was before the pandemic. Others I know said the same thing about the show during it's third season. Elisabeth Moss' acting is amazing in the way that you can really see the pain and heartbreak in her emotions in regards to the situation. But, it's just too real, especially in light of 2020-21. Hipster culture was probably at it's peak between 2013 and 2015. Hipster culture was on a slow decline throughout the late '10s but the pandemic massacred everything that was left and buried all remains. I'd say the strongest ties to 2013 with 2021 is probably music. EDM aside, I'd say we are still in the same musical era for the most part especially in regards to trap.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 6, 2021 15:21:35 GMT 10
Interesting topic. I don't think there's a lot of cultural similarities, but I get where you are coming from though. 2013 was a pretty stark departure from 2008-2012. I also think the pandemic has changed the world so much that it's hard to compare now with any time before March 2020. Life before March 2020 literally seems like a dream. Almost unreal. I don't think a movie like 'The Hunger Games' or other similar movies depicting dark, dystopian future timelines would be hits today because we are literally living that kind of future. The mid 2010s were dominated by these kinds of movies. I associate 'The Hunger Games' more with the mid '10s than the late '00s/early '10s. I had to stop watching 'A Handmaid's Tale' because it just became too realistic, and that was before the pandemic. Others I know said the same thing about the show during it's third season. Elisabeth Moss' acting is amazing in the way that you can really see the pain and heartbreak in her emotions in regards to the situation. But, it's just too real, especially in light of 2020-21. Hipster culture was probably at it's peak between 2013 and 2015. Hipster culture was on a slow decline throughout the late '10s but the pandemic massacred everything that was left and buried all remains. I'd say the strongest ties to 2013 with 2021 is probably music. EDM aside, I'd say we are still in the same musical era for the most part especially in regards to trap. I do agree that the pandemic has significantly changed the world as we know it, however that's only one aspect (while still an important one) in which 2021 is truly different from the world of 2013. I really don't think we're that far removed from 2013 in the grand scheme of things. That isn't to undermine just how life-changing and significant the COVID-19 pandemic has been of course, but with all due respect, it isn't the "be all and end all" of our society. The Top-40 music charts still exist, as do new film releases, new technology devices, new television shows etc. Life still goes on and there are other areas of pop culture and society in which many similarities could be drawn between 2013 and 2020/21. Covid aside, people still go about their lives the same as they did back then and social attitudes have largely remained the same over the past 8 years. I can see the argument for dystopian movies falling out of favour. I'm not sure though if we can really say for certain that the demand for those movies have declined since the pandemic, especially seeing as how the entire film industry has essentially been 'put on hold' and it is not performing as well financially due to people not being able to go to cinemas.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 6, 2021 16:08:05 GMT 10
This was something I was thinking about the other day. If you were to be teleported back to 2013, pandemic aside of course, the world wouldn't actually be that different. By that point, Snapchat and Instagram had both rose in popularity to become the most popular social media sites, selfies had become a huge fad by March/April of that year and continue to remain popular to this day, #hashtags had become totally mainstream etc. The technology that we use today generally isn't any different to what was around back then. Also, both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were released in 2013, which meant that the gaming world had already fully transitioned to the 8th generation of consoles. "GTA V" was one of the best-selling video games of 2013, as it was seven years later in 2020. To me, 2012 feels further removed from the world of today than what 2013 does, despite it only being a one year difference. During my first few months of high school in early 2012, smartphones were still a bit of a novelty and kids on the bus would compare each other's smartphones. Scene was still relevant; there were a couple of kids in my grade who sported the emo swoop. Things like electropop, dubstep and the "Hunger Games" were hugely popular. Overall, 2012 was still very much a Millennial cultural world, whereas 2013 was arguably the first year of the transition between Millennial and Gen Z culture. That in itself is part of the reason as for why 2013 seems more 'relatable'. Considering the fact that 2013 is now eight years ago, it has aged very well. In comparison, 2008 felt very outdated and had little in common with the world of 2016 when the former was eight years ago. Of course, there have been changes in pop culture and society in general since 2013, however it hasn't been anything drastic (with the exception of the pandemic). Interesting topic. I don't think there's a lot of cultural similarities, but I get where you are coming from though. 2013 was a pretty stark departure from 2008-2012. I also think the pandemic has changed the world so much that it's hard to compare now with any time before March 2020. Life before March 2020 literally seems like a dream. Almost unreal. I don't think a movie like 'The Hunger Games' or other similar movies depicting dark, dystopian future timelines would be hits today because we are literally living that kind of future. The mid 2010s were dominated by these kinds of movies. I associate 'The Hunger Games' more with the mid '10s than the late '00s/early '10s. I had to stop watching 'A Handmaid's Tale' because it just became too realistic, and that was before the pandemic. Others I know said the same thing about the show during it's third season. Elisabeth Moss' acting is amazing in the way that you can really see the pain and heartbreak in her emotions in regards to the situation. But, it's just too real, especially in light of 2020-21. Hipster culture was probably at it's peak between 2013 and 2015. Hipster culture was on a slow decline throughout the late '10s but the pandemic massacred everything that was left and buried all remains. I'd say the strongest ties to 2013 with 2021 is probably music. EDM aside, I'd say we are still in the same musical era for the most part especially in regards to trap. I associate hipster culture just as much with 2012. It just felt there were more normies dressing like hipsters and growing beards in 2013.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 21:57:20 GMT 10
2013 is the infancy of today’s culture such as the start of 8th gen gaming, iOS 7 influence on smartphone interfaces, GTA V, “Lorde” sound in music, smartphones everywhere, dumb/slider phones dead, physical media buried, Blockbusters closed, streaming, “Vine” culture, selfies, hashtags, twerking, trap, Snapchat & Instagram popularity. 2012 feels removed from today & has more in common with the late 2000s than today. I consider 2012 a part of the ElectroPop era along with late 2008-2011. 2012 had some lingering late 2000s influences that 2013 no longer had. I c 2013 as the 1st full core 2010s year & completely removed from the 2000s. I wasn’t a fan of 2013 due 2 my personal life, but I c it as the year that greatly established mid-late 2010s zeitgeist or culture.
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Post by Cassie on Feb 7, 2021 1:55:14 GMT 10
You're right and took the words right out of my mouth. While definitely more like 2010 than 2021, it still has some ties to our current year and there's undeniable evidence of it.
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Post by rainbow on Feb 7, 2021 3:53:41 GMT 10
2013 is definitely dated by today's standards, but it still has a lot of culture ties with today. It was the year smartphones surpassed feature phones, and it was the year the Black Lives Matter movement was founded You also saw the explosion of Vine, which was basically the Zillennial version of TikTok. 2013 definitely felt more like 2016 than 2010 IMO.
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Post by Cassie on Feb 7, 2021 5:15:38 GMT 10
2013 is definitely dated by today's standards, but it still has a lot of culture ties with today. It was the year smartphones surpassed feature phones, and it was the year the Black Lives Matter movement was founded You also saw the explosion of Vine, which was basically the Zillennial version of TikTok. 2013 definitely felt more like 2016 than 2010 IMO. I agree with the last statement, honestly. 13' may have had 7th gen gaming and it was pre-PC but it definitely had a different vibe to 2010
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Post by slashpop on Feb 7, 2021 6:57:27 GMT 10
2012 has almost just as many ties. 2010 and 2011 moreso are 95 percent there.
I’m tired of the narrative that everything drastically changed overnight in 2013.
I’ve always felt the shift was mid to late 2012 and everything was mostly already there by late 2009. 2013 was mostly an upgrade and a slight change.
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Post by y2kbaby on Feb 7, 2021 7:42:57 GMT 10
2013 to me is starting to feel almost like a different time. I agree, 2013 did kicked off a new feel and became the blueprint for the years succeeded. There are some songs from 2013 that would not be successful now in 2021. 2013 music and 2020/21 music have in common are retro 1970s/1980s pop. 2013 music had electropop and edm music. 2020/21 has trap music.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 7, 2021 22:47:03 GMT 10
2012 has almost just as many ties. 2010 and 2011 moreso are 95 percent there. I’m tired of the narrative that everything drastically changed overnight in 2013. Things didn't change overnight, however the world in which we live in today was more or less established by 2013. The Boston Bombings ushered in the rise of lone-wolf terrorist attacks and far-right extremists, all forms of physical media had been rendered obsolete, 1080p resolution had become standardised by that point etc. Of course, you can pinpoint certain trends and forms of technology as having existed well before 2013 (eg. smartphones), however 2012 was still very much apart of that cultural and societal transition that defined the period between 2008-2013.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 7, 2021 23:00:06 GMT 10
2012 has almost just as many ties. 2010 and 2011 moreso are 95 percent there. I’m tired of the narrative that everything drastically changed overnight in 2013. Things didn't change overnight, however the world in which we live in today was more or less established by 2013. The Boston Bombings ushered in the rise of lone-wolf terrorist attacks and far-right extremists, all forms of physical media had been rendered obsolete, 1080p resolution had become standardised by that point etc. Of course, you can pinpoint certain trends and forms of technology as having existed well before 2013 (eg. smartphones), however 2012 was still very much apart of that cultural and societal transition that defined the period between 2008-2013. Way I see it is the latter half of 2012 was strongly infused with elements of 2013 and leaning to the year and almost the same if not nearly identical. 2013 effects throughout that year seem like a few small yet solid changes of already pre existing 2010s culture that was mostly there. Most of the core 2010s identity was set throughout late 09-late 11. 2008 to mid 2009 was mostly a solid late 2000s year with some core 2000s left and a few incoming hints and starting points of 2010s culture.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 8, 2021 9:26:54 GMT 10
Things didn't change overnight, however the world in which we live in today was more or less established by 2013. The Boston Bombings ushered in the rise of lone-wolf terrorist attacks and far-right extremists, all forms of physical media had been rendered obsolete, 1080p resolution had become standardised by that point etc. Of course, you can pinpoint certain trends and forms of technology as having existed well before 2013 (eg. smartphones), however 2012 was still very much apart of that cultural and societal transition that defined the period between 2008-2013. Way I see it is the latter half of 2012 was strongly infused with elements of 2013 and leaning to the year and almost the same if not nearly identical. 2013 effects throughout that year seem like a few small yet solid changes of already pre existing 2010s culture that was mostly there. Most of the core 2010s identity was set throughout late 09-late 11. 2008 to mid 2009 was mostly a solid late 2000s year with some core 2000s left and a few incoming hints and starting points of 2010s culture. I'm not sure if it's so much the case of whether a year was truly core 2010s or not. It's more about how our lives and society as a whole have largely remained the same since about 2013. In 2012, selfie and #hashtag cultures weren't a mainstream thing yet, just 50% of the population here in Australian actually owned a smartphone device and digital downloads counted for only 37% of all album purchases in the United States. Sure, there are some cultural similarities between the world of today and 2010-2012, however the way in which we go about our lives and consume pop culture has noticeably changed since then.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 8, 2021 15:01:34 GMT 10
Way I see it is the latter half of 2012 was strongly infused with elements of 2013 and leaning to the year and almost the same if not nearly identical. 2013 effects throughout that year seem like a few small yet solid changes of already pre existing 2010s culture that was mostly there. Most of the core 2010s identity was set throughout late 09-late 11. 2008 to mid 2009 was mostly a solid late 2000s year with some core 2000s left and a few incoming hints and starting points of 2010s culture. I'm not sure if it's so much the case of whether a year was truly core 2010s or not. It's more about how our lives and society as a whole have largely remained the same since about 2013. In 2012, selfie and #hashtag cultures weren't a mainstream thing yet, just 50% of the population here in Australian actually owned a smartphone device and digital downloads counted for only 37% of all album purchases in the United States. Sure, there are some cultural similarities between the world of today and 2010-2012, however the way in which we go about our lives and consume pop culture has noticeably changed since then. I think it’s a matter of location. By the second half 2012 everyone I knew mostly had smartphones with the exception of a few people. Selfies were already a thing throughout early 2010s especially 2011 onwards and to lesser extent to the mid to late 2000s. Apps and iPads were already quite massive by 2010-2011 and digital downloads may not been fully documented due to illegal downloads but gradually increasing since the early to mid 2000s and use of iTunes since then and a massive increase in 2011 onwards with apps. It may have not showed up as much since it was a relatively new format and it depends on the country Dvds started to feel a bit more dated and less useful maybe between 2011-2012, and rental stores starting shutting down in 2012, Netflix and streaming was just starting to get big and 1080 and HD was mostly standard by the second half/end of 2012. Here’s the South Park episode about rental stores shutting down m.imdb.com/title/tt2128140/Hastags were also popular outside of their earlier functional use by 2012 and to some extent 2011 you started to seem them being used in more creative and stereotypical 2010s ways, also major advertising brands were also utilizing this trend and using them to engage with millions of people through social media activations. Top 10 hashtags of 2012 www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/12/the-15-most-memorable-hashtags-of-2012/chief-keef-makes-music-forSocial media campaigns by big agencies: econsultancy.com/10-of-the-best-social-media-campaigns-from-2012/What I meant by core 2010s identity is that stereotypical fashion, tech and graphic design and general aesthetics that lasted for the rest of the decade including today were mostly set by early 2010s, obviously not everything. I do believe 2013 slightly took things up a notch and offered a few notable changes that solidified the mid 2010s identity etc but it just wasn’t another planet or all that different from 2012 imo.
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