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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 9, 2021 20:45:46 GMT 10
In light of the news that a member of the British Royal Family reportedly had concerns about the 'colour' of Harry & Meghan's child, I thought now might be a good time to create a topic based on this.
Who are some examples of celebrities you can think of, in which their public images are different from how they are reported to act 'out of the spotlight'? Can you think of any celebrities who have political beliefs or viewpoints which don't exactly 'compliment' how they make themselves out to be in public? As an example, Ellen DeGenerous has faced accusations of bullying from people who work on her show, but you'd never believe that to be the case if you were to watch her show. Which celebrities don't live up to their 'public image'?
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 9, 2021 20:50:06 GMT 10
Here's an example I can think of: I've always been a big nu-metal fan, so I've read up on the history behind certain bands and how the genre managed to grow in popularity during the second-half of the '90s. However, one thing that did take me by surprise was learning that Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit has left-leaning political beliefs, and that's despite his 'douchey', tough-guy public persona and the fact that the members of Limp Bizkit come from northern Florida. Take this lyric from "Rollin'" for example: I think it's kind of amusing that such an inclusive, pro-trans lyric (that has no context with the rest of the song) is randomly included in a nu-metal song dating back to 2000. You couldn't possibly come up with a more bizarre paradox. It's definitely no coincidence either. Fred Durst even chose to take part in a charity song in 2001 to raise awareness of AIDS. Also, "N 2 Gether Now" contains this verse by rapper Method Man: It definitely reaffirms my belief that Fred Durst the "artist" is different from Fred Durst the person. That persona he puts on is all an act. He also made this tweet to Trump back in 2018 urging him to "stop the manipulation":
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Post by slashpop on Mar 9, 2021 21:23:42 GMT 10
Here's an example I can think of: I've always been a big nu-metal fan, so I've read up on the history behind certain bands and how the genre managed to grow in popularity during the second-half of the '90s. However, one thing that did take me by surprise was learning that Fred Durst of Limp Bizkit has left-leaning political beliefs, and that's despite his 'douchey', tough-guy public persona and the fact that the members of Limp Bizkit come from northern Florida. Take this lyric from "Rollin'" for example: I think it's kind of amusing that such an inclusive, pro-trans lyric (that has no context with the rest of the song) is randomly included in a nu-metal song dating back to 2000. You couldn't possibly come up with a more bizarre paradox. It's definitely no coincidence either. Fred Durst even chose to take part in a charity song in 2001 to raise awareness of AIDS. Also, "N 2 Gether Now" contains this verse by rapper Method Man: It definitely reaffirms my belief that Fred Durst the "artist" is different from Fred Durst the person. That persona he puts on is all an act. He also made this tweet to Trump back in 2018 urging him to "stop the manipulation": Fred durst has had instances of douchey behavior though that don’t come across as a tough guy stage persona. Examples that come to mind are Wes Borlands annoyances with Fred’s behavior in the band for years on end behind the scenes, instigating a riot in Woodstock 99, and douchey clashes with other celebrities like Trent Reznor that don’t come across as persona but a side to his character. He could have had a good side but he also had a macho side and a persona on top. The latter two have changed with time for sure though. I always thought limp bizkits first album was raw nu metal and fred in 1997 didn’t give off this frat boy image more like goofy hip hop guy that slowly changed across 1998-99 onwards possibly to appeal more marketable but also a change of personality. I find the significant other and hot dog completely unlistenable and really barely anything to do with nu metal of 1994-1998 just y2k top 40 beach party corporate rock
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Post by John Titor on Mar 10, 2021 0:10:01 GMT 10
PM me for that info lol
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 10, 2021 10:19:56 GMT 10
Fred durst has had instances of douchey behavior though that don’t come across as a tough guy stage persona. Examples that come to mind are Wes Borlands annoyances with Fred’s behavior in the band for years on end behind the scenes, instigating a riot in Woodstock 99, and douchey clashes with other celebrities like Trent Reznor that don’t come across as persona but a side to his character. He could have had a good side but he also had a macho side and a persona on top. The latter two have changed with time for sure though. That's what makes his left-leaning political views all the more surprising, they don't seem to 'match' with who he seems to be as a person. I do think many of his antics and public 'outbursts' were pre-planned to an extent though. That isn't too suggest that he is a 'saint' by any means or to make light of how he has treated others, but it makes me wonder how much of it was just him playing his 'character'. He is the head of a record label that is a division of Geffen Records (one of the biggest record labels in the US). If anyone knows how to market themselves in the music industry and generate buzz, it would be him.
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Post by slashpop on Mar 10, 2021 11:56:51 GMT 10
Fred durst has had instances of douchey behavior though that don’t come across as a tough guy stage persona. Examples that come to mind are Wes Borlands annoyances with Fred’s behavior in the band for years on end behind the scenes, instigating a riot in Woodstock 99, and douchey clashes with other celebrities like Trent Reznor that don’t come across as persona but a side to his character. He could have had a good side but he also had a macho side and a persona on top. The latter two have changed with time for sure though. That's what makes his left-leaning political views all the more surprising, they don't seem to 'match' with who he seems to be as a person. I do think many of his antics and public 'outbursts' were pre-planned to an extent though. That isn't too suggest that he is a 'saint' by any means or to make light of how he has treated others, but it makes me wonder how much of it was just him playing his 'character'. He is the head of a record label that is a division of Geffen Records (one of the biggest record labels in the US). If anyone knows how to market themselves in the music industry and generate buzz, it would be him. I do think he’s used that to cover up his talent. While a few tracks on significant other have some redeemable qualities reflecting the good vibes of summer 1999, and some interesting production and guitar work and effects including a collaboration with the singer of stone temple pilots, however a lot of it just hasn’t aged well especially since 00-01 period exhausted the formula associated with this wave of nu metal. When this album first came out it wasn’t as bad but there were still bad and cheesy parts. I find chocolate starfish and the hotdog flavored water to be the most asinine rock album ever recorded. A big chunk of the lyrics have to be some of the the most poorly thought out, dumbed down and rushed lyrics I’ve ever seen. I think even a group of 12 year olds could write better lyrics. Also if you there in 2000-2001 songs like rollin and my way were played on MTV 3-7 times a day, yes it was that bad, it was an assault on your ears. Maybe just as many times on the radio. You have to understand that for 7 or so years prior to this era we were used to having some amount of quality music and balance via MTV and radio to choose from. When this happened not only was it frustrating and depressing to see such low quality music being shoved in your face non stop but you didn’t have everything uploaded to Kazaa or Napster, record stores and cds were just starting to take a hit and the internet didn’t have Wikipedia and enough information like 2005 onwards it was kind of frustrating time if you didn’t like mainstream music. Luckily I was exposed earlier in the 90s to stuff outside the mainstream but the quality that even existed as late as late 98 to early 2000 on MTV was mostly gone with a few exceptions and however there was an improvement later around 2002.
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Post by daywatch on Apr 1, 2021 3:38:12 GMT 10
Jackie Chan:
He has the image of being a cute grandpa, but after I found out about who he really was 2 years ago, my heart was in pain, I used to love him when I was a kid. He's a CCP supporter, cheater, and a terrible parent.
From a recent article regarding his unpopularity in Hong Kong:
“I’m not sure if it’s good to have freedom or not,” he said at a conference in 2009. “I’m gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we’re not being controlled, we’ll just do what we want.”
From his book,"Never Grow Up":
“When [my son Jaycee] was still young, I hit him once and was very heavy-handed — directly lifting him and throwing him onto the sofa. That time I really scared him and his mother to death, and I myself was very regretful.”
Explains why he is very hated and unpopular in his home country.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 5:58:47 GMT 10
Pretty much all of them, with a few (and it is a few indeed) honourable exceptions.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2021 6:50:51 GMT 10
Aubrey get in here lol
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