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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2021 4:12:34 GMT 10
From 2000 -2009 what year was the best ?
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Post by slashpop on Mar 19, 2021 5:05:36 GMT 10
From 2000 -2009 what year was the best ? Early 2000 is the peak year for core 90s/Y2K style internet. Basically the internet of 1994-1998 taken to its full potential with small websites, personal homepages, novelty sites with funky intro pages and early online ordering having the most variety compared to years prior. 2003 peak for msn, a lot more message boards and chat rooms, internet starting to become more reliable for looking things up, ordering online, becoming much more common, more file sharing options and less stigma around it ( less legal cases, limited range music and companies shutting down) compared to 99-02 and variety of humor videos. 2006 peak year for early social media, blogs, wikipedia becoming something you regularly rely on, and decent variety of flash animations, meaningful early YouTube videos and more variety of pixelated video content in general ( torrents and random sites) compared to 04 and 05) 2008-2009 most complete internet feeling ( enough YouTube clips and tv/movies in good quality, you can download or look up almost any album out there really easily, Facebook is more more developed and massive, MySpace still hanging, Wikipedia is richer, Twitter is big.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2021 7:18:37 GMT 10
From 2000 -2009 what year was the best ? Early 2000 is the peak year for core 90s/Y2K style internet. Basically the internet of 1994-1998 taken to its full potential with small websites, personal homepages, novelty sites with funky intro pages and early online ordering having the most variety compared to years prior. 2003 peak for msn, a lot more message boards and chat rooms, internet starting to become more reliable for looking things up, ordering online, becoming much more common, more file sharing options and less stigma around it ( less legal cases, limited range music and companies shutting down) compared to 99-02 and variety of humor videos. 2006 peak year for early social media, blogs, wikipedia becoming something you regularly rely on, and decent variety of flash animations, meaningful early YouTube videos and more variety of pixelated video content in general ( torrents and random sites) compared to 04 and 05) 2008-2009 most complete internet feeling ( enough YouTube clips and tv/movies in good quality, you can download or look up almost any album out there really easily, Facebook is more more developed and massive, MySpace still hanging, Wikipedia is richer, Twitter is big. I picked 2006, myspace the most visited website in the USA, youtube popping off and even making Times Magazine cover, Wikipedia was VERY useful for school lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 7:22:52 GMT 10
I vote 2006 because it was early social media, early YouTube, pre-iPhone, less toxic internet environment without the politically correct cancel culture & SJW vs Alt Right war garbage of today. 2006 internet had a unique charm or mystery with the right balance & somewhat of a Wild West feeling.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2021 7:24:16 GMT 10
I vote 2006 because it was early social media, early YouTube, pre-iPhone, less toxic internet environment without the politically correct cancel culture & SJW vs Alt Right war garbage of today. 2006 internet had a unique charm or mystery with the right balance & somewhat of a Wild West feeling. youtube was the wild west, there were movies on there the day they dropped on DVD in full HQ
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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2021 7:35:57 GMT 10
youtube was the wild west, there were movies on there the day they dropped on DVD in full HQ I’m sure they got away with doing that. Lucky because people could view movies 4 free. I wonder if that played a part in killing Blockbuster’s & Hollywood Video’s sales.
The rise of DVDs
It wasn't just that DVDs were lighter less costly to manufacture and mail. It's that studios priced them lower -- making it not much more expensive to buy a DVD than to rent one at Blockbuster.
Massive debt
In 1994, Viacom purchased Blockbuster, and as Unglesbee puts it. Ten years later, Blockbuster spun off, but had to take out a $905 million loan to pay a special dividend to Viacom shareholders for the privilege.
If not for that debt, a former analyst suggests to Unglesbee, "it probably would have survived a lot longer."
Too-fast growth
Author Josh Greenberg, who wrote a book called From Betamax to Blockbuster, tells Unglesbee that super-fast growth was built into Blockbuster's early DNA:
The Blockbuster strategy was simple -- pump as much money as possible into buying local and regional chains while keeping centralized control over the look and feel of individual stores," Greenberg writes. The company got so efficient at opening new stores, he notes, that it could pack everything needed to open a store into a tractor-trailer, in the order it would be needed.
Late fees
This was the scourge of Blockbuster: return a movie, go back to rent another one, and find out that you owed $20 in late fees. In fact, Netflix founder Reed Hastings later claimed that he started Netflix because he'd owed $40 in late fees on the movie Apollo 13.
That was a "convenient fiction," a Netflix executive later admitted, but it plugged into how much people hated them. And Blockbuster found they were an albatross: a bad part of their business model, even though ultimately dropping them didn't lead to more rentals.
Walmart, Target and Best Buy
These other big retailers got into the video rental market -- but were ultimately able to price it all far lower, because they could use DVDs as a loss leader just to get customers in the stores.
Other video chains
The threat wasn't just from Netflix and technology and big chains. There were also other smaller video chains, like Hollywood Video.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Mar 19, 2021 8:00:47 GMT 10
2007 IMO
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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2021 8:58:40 GMT 10
www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/people-think-netflix-killed-blockbuster-now-a-brand-new-report-says-these-7-other-things-mattered-more.html
The rise of DVDs
It wasn't just that DVDs were lighter less costly to manufacture and mail. It's that studios priced them lower -- making it not much more expensive to buy a DVD than to rent one at Blockbuster.
Massive debt
In 1994, Viacom purchased Blockbuster, and as Unglesbee puts it. Ten years later, Blockbuster spun off, but had to take out a $905 million loan to pay a special dividend to Viacom shareholders for the privilege.
If not for that debt, a former analyst suggests to Unglesbee, "it probably would have survived a lot longer."
Too-fast growth
Author Josh Greenberg, who wrote a book called From Betamax to Blockbuster, tells Unglesbee that super-fast growth was built into Blockbuster's early DNA:
The Blockbuster strategy was simple -- pump as much money as possible into buying local and regional chains while keeping centralized control over the look and feel of individual stores," Greenberg writes. The company got so efficient at opening new stores, he notes, that it could pack everything needed to open a store into a tractor-trailer, in the order it would be needed.
Late fees
This was the scourge of Blockbuster: return a movie, go back to rent another one, and find out that you owed $20 in late fees. In fact, Netflix founder Reed Hastings later claimed that he started Netflix because he'd owed $40 in late fees on the movie Apollo 13.
That was a "convenient fiction," a Netflix executive later admitted, but it plugged into how much people hated them. And Blockbuster found they were an albatross: a bad part of their business model, even though ultimately dropping them didn't lead to more rentals.
Walmart, Target and Best Buy
These other big retailers got into the video rental market -- but were ultimately able to price it all far lower, because they could use DVDs as a loss leader just to get customers in the stores.
Other video chains
The threat wasn't just from Netflix and technology and big chains. There were also other smaller video chains, like Hollywood Video. Wow interesting! So Blockbuster also played a part in their demise. I remember seeing video rental machines outside Walgreens around 2006. I recall Target, Walmart & Best Buy getting into that 2. Didn’t Blockbuster refuse 2 partner up with Netflix when they had an offer? yes they did refuse which was one the dumbest moves ever
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Post by kev2000sfan on Mar 19, 2021 11:29:24 GMT 10
2007 was a really special year for the 2000s, I kid you not. It felt like everything was in the right place.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 19, 2021 12:03:33 GMT 10
2007 was a really special year for the 2000s, I kid you not. It felt like everything was in the right place. dark and digitalllllll
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 20:55:37 GMT 10
Just one word: Caturday.
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Post by astropoug on May 19, 2022 11:27:55 GMT 10
I would go with 2007. MySpace was at its peak, YouTube was blowing up, NigaHiga just started making videos, Smosh was in their prime (they were the biggest YouTuber of the time), YouTube Poops were popular, Newgrounds and YTMND were still popular, Facebook was not popular (important because I fucking hate Facebook), and Flash games were in their prime.
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Post by John Titor on May 19, 2022 12:11:13 GMT 10
I would go with 2007. MySpace was at its peak, YouTube was blowing up, NigaHiga just started making videos, Smosh was in their prime (they were the biggest YouTuber of the time), YouTube Poops were popular, Newgrounds and YTMND were still popular, Facebook was not popular (important because I fucking hate Facebook), and Flash games were in their prime. that is not true at all, Facebook blew up in Q1 2007, infact if you look at many peoples sign up dates for Facebook they all point to Q1 2007. During the January 2007 Iphone unveiling even Steve Jobs talks about Facebook working in Safari. ( Mind u this was Q1 2007) Also here is Wired talking about how Facebook is very popular in 2007 www.wired.com/2007/09/ff-facebook/Myspace was still king mind you at this time, even in 2008 Myspace was still king until Facebook kept chipping away more and more until it finally dethroned Myspace in Summer 2009, but Facebook when it was getting buzz was very popular. Once again I repeat it was not #1 social media in 2007 but it was very very very very popular. I was a senior in Hs when Facebook popped off.
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Post by astropoug on May 19, 2022 12:23:32 GMT 10
I would go with 2007. MySpace was at its peak, YouTube was blowing up, NigaHiga just started making videos, Smosh was in their prime (they were the biggest YouTuber of the time), YouTube Poops were popular, Newgrounds and YTMND were still popular, Facebook was not popular (important because I fucking hate Facebook), and Flash games were in their prime. that is not true at all, Facebook blew up in Q1 2007, infact if you look at many peoples sign up dates for Facebook they all point to Q1 2007. During the January 2007 Iphone unveiling even Steve Jobs talks about Facebook working in Safari. ( Mind u this was Q1 2007) Also here is Wired talking about how Facebook is very popular in 2007 www.wired.com/2007/09/ff-facebook/Myspace was still king mind you at this time, even in 2008 Myspace was still king until Facebook kept chipping away more and more until it finally dethroned Myspace in Summer 2009, but Facebook when it was getting buzz was very popular. Once again I repeat it was not #1 social media in 2007 but it was very very very very popular. I was a senior in Hs when Facebook popped off. It was gaining attention, but it wasn't anywhere near as popular as it would later become. We all still used MySpace, and the internet still had a Wild West vibe. By 2009, Facebook became the biggest social media platform. This is also when bullshit like Farmville and VEVO started. So I do think the internet started going downhill in 2009. I think 2008 was still a great year for the internet, but Facebook was starting to really catch on, and Fred (who I hated) blew up in popularity. 2007 still had that edgy MySpace/Newgrounds kinda vibe. Which I miss.
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Post by John Titor on May 19, 2022 12:33:04 GMT 10
that is not true at all, Facebook blew up in Q1 2007, infact if you look at many peoples sign up dates for Facebook they all point to Q1 2007. During the January 2007 Iphone unveiling even Steve Jobs talks about Facebook working in Safari. ( Mind u this was Q1 2007) Also here is Wired talking about how Facebook is very popular in 2007 www.wired.com/2007/09/ff-facebook/Myspace was still king mind you at this time, even in 2008 Myspace was still king until Facebook kept chipping away more and more until it finally dethroned Myspace in Summer 2009, but Facebook when it was getting buzz was very popular. Once again I repeat it was not #1 social media in 2007 but it was very very very very popular. I was a senior in Hs when Facebook popped off. It was gaining attention, but it wasn't anywhere near as popular as it would later become. We all still used MySpace, and the internet still had a Wild West vibe. By 2009, Facebook became the biggest social media platform. This is also when bullshit like Farmville and VEVO started. So I do think the internet started going downhill in 2009. I think 2008 was still a great year for the internet, but Facebook was starting to really catch on, and Fred (who I hated) blew up in popularity. 2007 still had that edgy MySpace/Newgrounds kinda vibe. Which I miss. it was the #3 in the pecking order of most "social" websites with 1 being Myspace 2 being Youtube and 3 being Facebook. The Internet in general got more users as every year of the 2000s went by so thats not really a fair assessment of it. In the internet age we were in for 2000s standards in 2007,Facbook was mega popular. Like I said before, Steve Jobs showed a demo of Facebook working on a Iphone in the January 2007 keynote, that should show u how much buzz this website had, also Obama shouted out Facebook several times during his late 07 campaign speeches. Also I do remember TRL and 106 & Park shouting out their respective Facebook pages during this time. It's just like comparing Myspace in 2005 to Tik Tok in 2022, you really can't and Tik Tok is obv going to have more users due to everyone having the internet. Back in 07 not everyone still used it. A good huge majority did, but not everyone. 2009 is def when the internet started losing it's luster a bit, I was not happy with some of the changes I saw. 2007 still had somewhat of a wild west feel.
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