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Post by John Titor on Jul 2, 2021 12:09:18 GMT 10
I will go with the 1990s. according to statistics they peaked in traffic in 2005
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Post by John Titor on Jul 2, 2021 12:09:52 GMT 10
2005 had the most mall traffic of any year of the 90s,2000s or 2010s, I will have to find my source
but it is something someone showed at a Ted Talks type thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2021 12:16:46 GMT 10
Roughly from the early 90s to the early 2000s. The 80s are still the golden age of the mall. Malls really only collapsed following the 2008 recession. They started to show signs that maybe the worst was over in the mid to late 2010s, but then the Trump depression hit and they resumed their freefall.
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Post by John Titor on Jul 2, 2021 14:02:31 GMT 10
Roughly from the early 90s to the early 2000s. The 80s are still the golden age of the mall. Malls really only collapsed following the 2008 recession. They started to show signs that maybe the worst was over in the mid to late 2010s, but then the Trump depression hit and they resumed their freefall. Yupp!!!
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Post by John Titor on Jul 2, 2021 14:46:10 GMT 10
In your September 2016 atmosphere thread, you might have mentioned how malls were packed that month, maybe not as packed as 2005. In your November 2016 atmosphere thread, I think you mentioned how malls got replenished with pricy facelifts. they did, Simon Malls made them all white with brown wood panels, some of this happened in the early 2010s but for the most part 2016 was Simon's roll out of new mall designs. The design didn't make the malls itself get packed tho it was more the Fall/xmas season for 2016 spending went up.
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Post by slashpop on Jul 2, 2021 15:46:16 GMT 10
2005 had the most mall traffic of any year of the 90s,2000s or 2010s, I will have to find my source but it is something someone showed at a Ted Talks type thing. That is interesting. 2005, 2006, maybe 2007 is definitely still in the heyday of malls for sure. I do believe 2007 or 2008 is when malls started going down hill which is why I did not pick the 2000s. There may have been traffic in at some point in 2005 but between 2005-2006 to 2008 malls were progressively becoming a staler experience, with sometimes less diverse shops compared to early 2000s and two decades before them
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Post by slashpop on Jul 2, 2021 15:48:03 GMT 10
Malls these days may be gentrified and lacking character but I kind of prefer them to the malls of mid to late 2000s
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Post by 10slover on Jul 2, 2021 18:37:37 GMT 10
Definitely the 2000s. One of the defining tropes of the 2000s is the ubiquity of mall culture in media
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Post by John Titor on Jul 3, 2021 0:24:54 GMT 10
Definitely the 2000s. One of the defining tropes of the 2000s is the ubiquity of mall culture in media 2005 literally is the peak of mall traffic from data so 2005 is the answer watch the Dead Mall documentry he talks about it in it
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Post by slashpop on Jul 3, 2021 1:30:50 GMT 10
Malls these days may be gentrified and lacking character but I kind of prefer them to the malls of mid to late 2000s I think malls now are trying to diversify with housing, entertainment, office and dining options. They do lack character compared to the 1980s-early 2000s. Malls had unique themes back then. Now they are trying to be as monochromatic, high-tech and futuristic as possible. Many big anchors have closed mall locations in exodus since the late 2010s. Yeah but malls still aren’t dead and bigger in size than ever they just lack soul and character and mall culture
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Post by longaotian on Jul 6, 2021 11:24:23 GMT 10
The 2000s - the first half in particular.
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Post by al on Jul 9, 2021 7:39:16 GMT 10
Culturally, the 90's. Maybe around the release of Mallrats. That's not to say they were in decline immediately after, but they began losing their sustainability. Focus grew to be too much about revenues and ignoring their position as a community "hang out". The mid 2000's particularly featured some bad decisions that were slowly contributing to their demise, such as the overuse of kiosks with aggressive sales people, overabundant fragrances/sensory overload in general, and the elimination of common areas (though it took until the recession years for some to begin really seeing this).
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Post by John Titor on Aug 2, 2021 4:53:17 GMT 10
The 2000s - the first half in particular. 2005, Dan Bell host of Youtubes Dead Malls youtube confirmed it, altho 2004 did have MEGA traffic
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Post by slashpop on Aug 2, 2021 22:23:36 GMT 10
Malls keep getting bigger. Adolescent mall culture lasted until the mid to late 2000s and a bit in the early 2010s but was best from the 70s to the early 2000s.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 9:02:45 GMT 10
I remember Hot Topic was seen as this cool, edgy and dark store with emo teens standing out during the 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 academic years. Now some or most people see Hot Topic as a joke. Disney stores were really epic in the 1990s with their animatronics. Too bad they adapted a minimalistic Steve Jobs Apple store design in the 2010s which I think killed them more. They were already struggling and closing stores in the 2000s. The Disney Renaissance was over by then. Disney did not own their stores from 2004 to 2008, Children’s Place did. Disney stores along with Warner Bros Studio stores grew too quickly and became just another generic mall store. Specialty stores are struggling.
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