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Post by mc98 on Aug 10, 2021 4:47:56 GMT 10
The early 60s(specifically 1960-62) felt very removed from the 90s. The question is are the mid-late 60s(1964-1969) culturally closer to the 1930s or the 1990s?
Somehow closer to the 90s, even closer to it than the 1940s.
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Post by Telso on Aug 10, 2021 5:54:18 GMT 10
Closer to the 1930s imo. The technology in the 60s was quite rudimentary, while the 90s pretty much shaped the modern age with internet, GUI computers, mobile phones and (sophisticated) video games. The way movies were arranged in the 60s was pretty much pioneered in the 30s, while distinct from the CGI, blockbuster filled 90s. And while 60s rock is obviously closer to the 90s, jazz was still a huge popular genre in the 60s and most of pop was made with live instruments in contrast to the synthesized beats of the 90s. And the cold war period and the building tensions between countries of the 60s is in many ways reminiscent of the in-between war period of the 30s instead of the post-cold war period of the 90s.
Fashion is probably one aspect where the mid-late 60s are closer to the 90s.
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Post by astropoug on Aug 10, 2021 8:07:44 GMT 10
There are plenty of points of comparison to be made here. In terms of technology, though it was a lot less sophisticated than 90s digital technology, I also think there are some aspects more similar to the 90s than 30s. For one thing, TV was a major form of entertainment in the 1960s as a whole, which they weren't in the 30s. Whilst movies do have some similarities to 30s movies, the mid-late 60s proved to be a MAJOR turning point in the film industry. This was due to the revocation of the Hays Code, which allowed for more mature and darker themes to be explored in movies, action movies filled with tons of death, cruder and darker humor in comedies, and horror to really take off as a film genre once again, but much bloodier. In addition, important movies like Bonnie and Clyde, The Graduate, 2001: A Space Odyssey and Planet of the Apes helped usher in a new era of filmmaking called New Hollywood, which was very distinct from the more wholesome if cliched movies of the Golden Age. These movies were based more on the directors instead of the actors. America's dominance over technology was also receding in the 1960s, as Japanese companies like Sony were quickly innovating whilst American companies like RCA struggled to keep up. Vacuum tubes became obsolete in this era, replaced by transistors in everything from radios to televisions, and it was this innovation that led to the consumer electronics boom of the late 20th century. Rotary phones weren't obsolete yet but push-button telephones also became a thing in the mid-late 1960s that would be the norm in the 90s. Rock music was a popular genre of music in both the 60s and 90s. Cartoons were now most popular on TV instead of theatrical shorts, which certainly ties them closer to the 90s instead of the 30s. This era also saw the Civil Rights Act, which made segregation illegal. Blacks and minorities in general were starting to make their voices heard, and though acceptance wasn't anywhere near as good as it would be in the 90s, it wasn't as horrendous as it was in the 30s. Because of the counter-culture, as you said, fashion was closer to the 90s than the 30s. Top hats weren't fashionable anymore, or anything formal. The 60s in general had a casual vibe that the 30s didn't. That said, there are still some differences as well between the mid-late 60s and 90s. For one thing, the Soviet Union was a thing during this era, and I think that's what Telso was trying to get at here with the Cold War era being more similar to the interwar period compared to the post-Cold War period. We weren't at war with the Soviets in the 30s, but their mere presence does tie this era in with the 30s in contrast to the 90s. And as Telso mentioned, CGI wasn't a thing. Computers were only used by scientists and in universities, and video games weren't a thing. And whilst we did have rock in the 60s, there was no rap, and pop in general was made with live instruments instead of electronics.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Aug 10, 2021 12:49:15 GMT 10
That's a very hard question, I would say....... the 1930s.
- Geo-Politics: 1990s (due to the 2nd World War) - Society: Tie - Economy: 1990s - Shopping & Security: 1930s - Transportation: 1990s - Home Appliances: 1930s - Filming & Photography: 1930s - Audio & Radio: 1930s - Television & Video: 1990s - Video Gaming: 1930s (this one is a bit unfair lol) - Computers: 1930s - Internet: 1930s - Telecommunication: 1930s - Fashion: Tie - Movies: 1930s - TV Shows: 1990s - Music: 1930s
Note: Feel free to not count the video gaming and internet ones lol. Either way, the mid-late 1960s are still closer to the 1930s.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 10, 2021 13:11:59 GMT 10
That's a very hard question, I would say....... the 1930s. - Geo-Politics: 1990s (due to the 2nd World War) - Society: Tie - Economy: 1990s - Shopping & Security: 1930s - Transportation: 1990s - Home Appliances: 1930s - Filming & Photography: 1930s - Audio & Radio: 1930s - Television & Video: 1990s - Video Gaming: 1930s (this one is a bit unfair lol) - Computers: 1930s - Internet: 1930s - Telecommunication: 1930s - Fashion: Tie - Movies: 1930s - TV Shows: 1990s - Music: 1930sNote: Feel free to not count the video gaming and internet ones lol. Either way, the mid-late 1960s are still closer to the 1930s. There were tons of rock music in the mid-late 60s, so it would be a tie because of that.
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Post by jaydawg89 on Aug 10, 2021 16:31:51 GMT 10
That's a very hard question, I would say....... the 1930s. - Geo-Politics: 1990s (due to the 2nd World War) - Society: Tie - Economy: 1990s - Shopping & Security: 1930s - Transportation: 1990s - Home Appliances: 1930s - Filming & Photography: 1930s - Audio & Radio: 1930s - Television & Video: 1990s - Video Gaming: 1930s (this one is a bit unfair lol) - Computers: 1930s - Internet: 1930s - Telecommunication: 1930s - Fashion: Tie - Movies: 1930s - TV Shows: 1990s - Music: 1930sNote: Feel free to not count the video gaming and internet ones lol. Either way, the mid-late 1960s are still closer to the 1930s. There were tons of rock music in the mid-late 60s, so it would be a tie because of that. The main reasons why I put it closer to the 30s is because, electronics/computers weren't commonly used in music and Hip Hop wasn't a thing at all yet.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 10, 2021 16:42:09 GMT 10
There were tons of rock music in the mid-late 60s, so it would be a tie because of that. The main reasons why I put it closer to the 30s is because, electronics/computers weren't commonly used in music and Hip Hop wasn't a thing at all yet. I see but 60s rock is closer to the 90s by default.
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Post by slashpop on Aug 10, 2021 20:53:08 GMT 10
That's a very hard question, I would say....... the 1930s.
- Geo-Politics: 1990s - Society: 1990s (liberal culture, pill, free love, casual drug use, social activism etc) - Economy: 1990s - Shopping & Security: 1930s - Transportation: 1990s - Home Appliances: 1990s (many people were still using 60s/70s appliances in until 1997/1998) - Filming & Photography: 1930s - Audio & Radio: Neither nor - Television & Video: 1990s - Video Gaming: Neither nor (peak electro-mechanical arcade games by sega and other gaming giants, and early supercomputer games before they go mainstream) - Computers: Neither nor (closer and closer to 70s computer tech changes) - Internet: Neither nor (Earliest mass use of modems in universities and computer centers etc) - Telecommunication: 1930s - Fashion: 1990s (60s revival in the 90s) - Movies: 1990s - TV Shows: 1930s (still quite conservative) - Music: 1990s (way more in common with 90s rock music)
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