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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 13:14:35 GMT 10
We are getting ready to see the end of abortion rights in the USA. Same-sex marriage will likely be rolled back as well within the next few years. A lot of people think the Christian Right is going to go after the pill next and try to get more contraceptives banned. There will be no progress on legalizing marijuana federally because the Christian Right says it's a threat to the moral fabric of society. Plus, that means that a more authoritarian POTUS could simply order the justice department to shut down legal marijuana in states where it has been legalized. We are headed into an era when religion dominates and where people are going to be forced into their place within a social hierarchy that heavily revolves around race, religion, class, sexual orientation, and marital status. White evangelical Christian heterosexual men will be at the top.
The Republican Party is currently favored to win both houses of congress in 2022 and the White House in 2024. Donald Trump could very likely return to power in 2025. This is the future that people, mostly boomers, want. The next couple of decades are going to be hell for anyone who doesn't want to live in a 1950's WASP-oriented culture.
I think the 2020s will be to the '10s what the 1930s were to the 1920s. Difficult economic times bring a more conservative culture and I think that's what we are seeing now.
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Post by slashpop on Sept 3, 2021 17:19:36 GMT 10
There is no way to be certain trump will win again. I can’t see how evangelical men will be at the top. alt right and moderate libertarian right leaning influence in the mainstream has been slowly toning down and fading since 2019-2020, boomer conservativism and religious right influence in the mainstream has been slowly dying for over a decade now.
I honestly think the direction of metoo and cancel culture, hedonistic and corporate LBGT culture and other things are regressive in many ways and use right wing tatics and to be honest needs a change. Trendy liberalism has barely done anything really changeful in recent years. If anything we need a new and more evolved left.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 0:30:47 GMT 10
There is no way to be certain trump will win again. I can’t see how evangelical men will be at the top. alt right and moderate libertarian right leaning influence in the mainstream has been slowly toning down and fading since 2019-2020, boomer conservativism and religious right influence in the mainstream has been slowly dying for over a decade now. I honestly think the direction of metoo and cancel culture, hedonistic and corporate LBGT culture and other things are regressive in many ways and use right wing tatics and to be honest needs a change. Trendy liberalism has barely done anything really changeful in recent years. If anything we need a new and more evolved left. I think boomer conservatism and the religious right is currently at peak power. You are right that the approach of left-wing groups like BLM, MeToo, etc have been very unsuccessful largely because of the backlash they've induced from the religious right. However, what is the solution? Sometimes the left is extreme simply because it has to be to counter the right. The religious right in our society is like a rabid animal that everyone must tiptoe around because if you offend them, there's no limit on how much damage they will do or how much they will destroy. The right will say the same about the left, but let's look at what the left is angry about. The left is angry about Christian fundamentalists attempting to impose their religious rules on all of society, while the right is angry that people are allowed to exist without following their rules and that so much has changed since 'Leave it to Beaver' was on the air.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 4, 2021 2:19:00 GMT 10
There is no way to be certain trump will win again. I can’t see how evangelical men will be at the top. alt right and moderate libertarian right leaning influence in the mainstream has been slowly toning down and fading since 2019-2020, boomer conservativism and religious right influence in the mainstream has been slowly dying for over a decade now. I honestly think the direction of metoo and cancel culture, hedonistic and corporate LBGT culture and other things are regressive in many ways and use right wing tatics and to be honest needs a change. Trendy liberalism has barely done anything really changeful in recent years. If anything we need a new and more evolved left. I think boomer conservatism and the religious right is currently at peak power. You are right that the approach of left-wing groups like BLM, MeToo, etc have been very unsuccessful largely because of the backlash they've induced from the religious right. However, what is the solution? Sometimes the left is extreme simply because it has to be to counter the right. The religious right in our society is like a rabid animal that everyone must tiptoe around because if you offend them, there's no limit on how much damage they will do or how much they will destroy. The right will say the same about the left, but let's look at what the left is angry about. The left is angry about Christian fundamentalists attempting to impose their religious rules on all of society, while the right is angry that people are allowed to exist without following their rules and that so much has changed since 'Leave it to Beaver' was on the air.
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Post by rainbow on Sept 4, 2021 5:40:27 GMT 10
We still don’t even know what the rest of the early 2020’s are gonna be like, let alone the mid and late 2020’s.
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Post by John Titor on Sept 4, 2021 5:49:17 GMT 10
We still don’t even know what the rest of the early 2020’s are gonna be like, let alone the mid and late 2020’s. for fashion we do, for movie slates we do for politics we don't
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 6:52:06 GMT 10
We still don’t even know what the rest of the early 2020’s are gonna be like, let alone the mid and late 2020’s. I'm going to make a prediction that it's going to be more of the past two years; i.e. society held hostage by angry pearl-clutching boomers. A pandemic that will never end because those boomers refuse to be vaccinated. Great Depression-like economic conditions for the foreseeable future. More and more natural disasters and more people sticking their head in the sand and just screaming that Jesus is coming back. It's going to be more and more religion in politics and bolder attempts by the government to force a narrow, rigid version of Christianity on everyone. The 2024 election is literally going to determine if 'A Handmaid's Tale' is a blueprint for our future.
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Post by TheUser98 on Sept 4, 2021 10:45:59 GMT 10
Dear @bchris02, this is you
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Post by 10slover on Sept 4, 2021 11:37:30 GMT 10
We don't know, i think you're being pessimistic and expecting the worst possible outcome.
Trump might kick the bucket by then lol
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Post by sman12 on Sept 6, 2021 4:12:50 GMT 10
I'm not sure, although with the Afghanistan debacle, it's actually looking quite good for Republicans in 2022 to take the House and Senate. But of course, anything is subject to change.
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Post by xamo on Sept 6, 2021 19:24:24 GMT 10
Doubt it, demographically conservatism isn't making rounds with younger generations. What is considered conservative now would be considered moderate 15-30 years ago. Republicans are just being extra loud because they know they're demographically doomed. For some homogenous/closed off countries like Poland or Hungary conservatism may be rising, but the US is too large and diverse for that ideology to be dominant anymore. Realistically we'll be looking at many different political views growing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 12:25:21 GMT 10
Looks like the Texas GOP is going to go after not just criminalizing abortion, but also reversing the gay marriage decision AND recriminalizing same-sex sexual relations. Meanwhile South Dakota has vowed to bring back school-imposed prayer.
It's conceivable that at some point this decade, some states may be arresting gay people simply for being gay. Several Republican lawmakers are going to try to get the death penalty for abortion in their state, including for those who leave the state and return. This is the future the Republican Party wants.
I think a civil war may end up happening because the majority won't stand for being slaves to a minority of Bible thumpers who believe they own the country and insist everyone follow their rules or else.
It's a scary time to live in America for anyone who has negative feelings when they hear the name Jerry Falwell.
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Post by 10slover on Sept 19, 2021 21:14:14 GMT 10
Looks like the Texas GOP is going to go after not just criminalizing abortion, but also reversing the gay marriage decision AND recriminalizing same-sex sexual relations. Meanwhile South Dakota has vowed to bring back school-imposed prayer. It's conceivable that at some point this decade, some states may be arresting gay people simply for being gay. Several Republican lawmakers are going to try to get the death penalty for abortion in their state, including for those who leave the state and return. This is the future the Republican Party wants. I think a civil war may end up happening because the majority won't stand for being slaves to a minority of Bible thumpers who believe they own the country and insist everyone follow their rules or else. It's a scary time to live in America for anyone who has negative feelings when they hear the name Jerry Falwell. Oh shit
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Post by slashpop on Sept 20, 2021 1:13:47 GMT 10
Looks like the Texas GOP is going to go after not just criminalizing abortion, but also reversing the gay marriage decision AND recriminalizing same-sex sexual relations. Meanwhile South Dakota has vowed to bring back school-imposed prayer. It's conceivable that at some point this decade, some states may be arresting gay people simply for being gay. Several Republican lawmakers are going to try to get the death penalty for abortion in their state, including for those who leave the state and return. This is the future the Republican Party wants. I think a civil war may end up happening because the majority won't stand for being slaves to a minority of Bible thumpers who believe they own the country and insist everyone follow their rules or else. It's a scary time to live in America for anyone who has negative feelings when they hear the name Jerry Falwell. There is no way it's going to be more conservative overall, it's hard to be completely certain about a few areas but overall, not really, there's a lot more room for expanding liberal culture and progressivism is likely to increase with time due to globalization, technology and easy access to information and the way it's become deeply established within current social culture. Christianity hasn't really interfered with current mainstream culture since the 90s and early 2000s. Boomer conservatism was dying in the trump era which was more liberatarian-conversative and even that will continue to fizzle out. I can't see people increasingly becoming more conservative than 2016-2019, it already happened and has slowly been fading in the last couple of years. You might see an increase in questioning or resisting extreme liberal or pc culture, ex. meetoo movement but not necessarily from a conservative perspective. It's highly unlikely that such laws would go back to the 1950s in states like Texas or that a civil war would break out in other states, this seems to be based on speculation or theories. Also you had laws that make it illegal for a man and woman to have intercourse, or relationships before marriage still in effect until a few years ago in certain states and they were never really enforced for decades. You can't really know what two people are doing tbh and it's really rare to for someone to rat out on others for malicious intent or revenge in any case. I would worry more about the increase of things grindr, and how things like that promote unsafe, promiscuous and a completely sex focused lifestyle that can be bad for the LGBT and how other's perceive them in the future, as opposed to other alternatives that integrate LGBT/any group for that matter into healthier social spaces.
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