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Oct 17, 2021 7:03:49 GMT 10
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Post by 10slover on Oct 17, 2021 7:03:49 GMT 10
I don't feel like pop culture is going anywhere soon. It's been virtually the same since 2016 with no signs of changing. At the earliest i'd say 2024 for various reasons. What parallel universe do you live in where pop culture hasn't changed since 2016???
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Oct 17, 2021 7:18:45 GMT 10
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Post by mc98 on Oct 17, 2021 7:18:45 GMT 10
Nah, I don’t think 2016 is the exact same as today. A bit similar? Yeah.
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Oct 17, 2021 7:47:12 GMT 10
Post by nightmarefarm on Oct 17, 2021 7:47:12 GMT 10
I don't feel like pop culture is going anywhere soon. It's been virtually the same since 2016 with no signs of changing. At the earliest i'd say 2024 for various reasons. What parallel universe do you live in where pop culture hasn't changed since 2016??? It's the same stuff. EDM/Trap pop, trap mumble rap, trop house pop, occasional slow whispery pop and the occasional 70s/80s style pop song in music. Same type of memes. Gaming wise, PS5 and Xbox Series X has released but they're far from the standard yet. Not many people have them partly due to the shortage of units up for sale. Only 3 next gen exclusives have released about a year into this new generation, one of which is a remake of a 2009 game. We haven't seen much of true next gen graphics apart from Horizon Forbidden West. Apart from the rise and fall of battle royale, gaming trends haven't changed much. I haven't noticed any change in mainstream fashion unless covid masks count. Tech has hardly changed besides alexa assistants. Smartphones are basically the same just sleeker and bigger and faster with faster charging. We still use Windows 10 which became the norm in 2016. TikTok is a thing now so i'll give it that at least but it's not revolutionary. Vine did it before. The only massive change is political with COVID, Biden and Boris Johnson being elected, BLM riots, Capital riots, etc etc.
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Oct 17, 2021 8:54:23 GMT 10
Post by John Titor on Oct 17, 2021 8:54:23 GMT 10
What parallel universe do you live in where pop culture hasn't changed since 2016??? EDM/Trap pop, trap mumble rap, trop house pop, occasional slow whispery pop and the occasional 70s/80s style pop song in music. Same type of memes. Gaming wise, PS5 and Xbox Series X has released but they're far from the standard yet. Not many people have them partly due to the shortage of units up for sale. Only 3 next gen exclusives have released about a year into this new generation, one of which is a remake of a 2009 game. We haven't seen much of true next gen graphics apart from Horizon Forbidden West. Apart from the rise and fall of battle royale, gaming trends haven't changed much. I haven't noticed any change in mainstream fashion unless covid masks count. Tech has hardly changed besides alexa assistants. Smartphones are basically the same just sleeker and bigger and faster with faster charging. We still use Windows 10 which became the norm in 2016. TikTok is a thing now so i'll give it that at least but it's not revolutionary. Vine did it before. The only massive change is political with COVID, Biden and Boris Johnson being elected, BLM riots, Capital riots, etc etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19
What otherworld universe are u living in ? I will agree about tech tho
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Oct 17, 2021 9:07:07 GMT 10
Post by nightmarefarm on Oct 17, 2021 9:07:07 GMT 10
It's the same stuff. EDM/Trap pop, trap mumble rap, trop house pop, occasional slow whispery pop and the occasional 70s/80s style pop song in music. Same type of memes. Gaming wise, PS5 and Xbox Series X has released but they're far from the standard yet. Not many people have them partly due to the shortage of units up for sale. Only 3 next gen exclusives have released about a year into this new generation, one of which is a remake of a 2009 game. We haven't seen much of true next gen graphics apart from Horizon Forbidden West. Apart from the rise and fall of battle royale, gaming trends haven't changed much. I haven't noticed any change in mainstream fashion unless covid masks count. Tech has hardly changed besides alexa assistants. Smartphones are basically the same just sleeker and bigger and faster with faster charging. We still use Windows 10 which became the norm in 2016. TikTok is a thing now so i'll give it that at least but it's not revolutionary. Vine did it before. The only massive change is political with COVID, Biden and Boris Johnson being elected, BLM riots, Capital riots, etc etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19
What otherworld universe are u living in ? I will agree about tech tho
E-boys/girls is a niche internet subculture that has nowhere as much influence and popularity as previous subculture like Emo and Hipster. Those songs are outliers. 99% of songs this year are the genres I mentioned above. I already mentioned COVID 19. Yes, politically things have changed. Pop culturally, not so much.
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Oct 17, 2021 9:23:54 GMT 10
Post by John Titor on Oct 17, 2021 9:23:54 GMT 10
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Oct 17, 2021 10:03:27 GMT 10
Post by nightmarefarm on Oct 17, 2021 10:03:27 GMT 10
E-boys/girls is a niche internet subculture that has nowhere as much influence and popularity as previous subculture like Emo and Hipster. Those songs are outliers. 99% of songs this year are the genres I mentioned above. I already mentioned COVID 19. Yes, politically things have changed. Pop culturally, not so much.
www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/8/1/20748707/egirl-definition-what-is-an-eboy
It's not niche it is now culture lol as for music "An “outlier” is anyone or anything that lies far outside the normal range. In business, an outlier is a person dramatically more or less successful than the majority. ... Gladwell attempts to get to the bottom of what makes a person successful." "Machine Gun Kelly earns first RIAA Platinum album with 'Tickets to My Downfall' A whole lot of people bought tickets to Machine Gun Kelly's Downfall. The rapper-turned-rocker's 2020 punk-influenced album Tickets to My Downfall has been certified Platinum by the RIAA.Sep 9, 2021" 98kupd.com/machine-gun-kelly-earns-first-riaa-platinum-album-with-tickets-to-my-downfall/#:~:text=September%209%2C%202021-,Machine%20Gun%20Kelly%20earns%20first%20RIAA,with%20'Tickets%20to%20My%20Downfall'&text=A%20whole%20lot%20of%20people,certified%20Platinum%20by%20the%20RIAA. The views on those videos just go to show that it is niche. E boy/girl is not iconic and nowhere near as popular as emo was in the mid 00s or hipster in the 2010s. There are the popular songs of 2021. One mainstream pop punk song doesn't mean pop punk is a mainstream genre. If that's the case then pop punk was popular in the mid 10s since paramore had a few hits then like "Still into you".
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Oct 17, 2021 11:20:04 GMT 10
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Post by 10slover on Oct 17, 2021 11:20:04 GMT 10
What parallel universe do you live in where pop culture hasn't changed since 2016??? It's the same stuff. EDM/Trap pop, trap mumble rap, trop house pop, occasional slow whispery pop and the occasional 70s/80s style pop song in music. Same type of memes. Gaming wise, PS5 and Xbox Series X has released but they're far from the standard yet. Not many people have them partly due to the shortage of units up for sale. Only 3 next gen exclusives have released about a year into this new generation, one of which is a remake of a 2009 game. We haven't seen much of true next gen graphics apart from Horizon Forbidden West. Apart from the rise and fall of battle royale, gaming trends haven't changed much. I haven't noticed any change in mainstream fashion unless covid masks count. Tech has hardly changed besides alexa assistants. Smartphones are basically the same just sleeker and bigger and faster with faster charging. We still use Windows 10 which became the norm in 2016. TikTok is a thing now so i'll give it that at least but it's not revolutionary. Vine did it before. The only massive change is political with COVID, Biden and Boris Johnson being elected, BLM riots, Capital riots, etc etc. 2016 style EDM is not popular anymore at all lol When was the last you heard a Chainsmokers style hit song on the radio?  It's just not popular anymore 2021 trap is very different from 2016 trap, it's way less bare-bones and emo-trap isn't popular anymore, mumblerap was a fad in 2017-2018 and now it's gone. "Trop house pop"? That music trend that was popular from 2015 to 2017? It's not popular anymore, i mean.... when was the last time you heard a song that sounded like "shape of you"? Throwback songs also were less popular in 2016 and 2000s nostalgia songs (that are becoming common in 2021) weren't a thing at all back them. Memes are also wayyyy different, a meme like "harambe" and "damn daniel" simply would not be popular in 2021, 2021 is way more sarcastic and witty. Fashion is definitely changing right now, we're seeing the return of baggy clothing and a bunch of other fashion trends from the 2000s. TikTok is basically vine 2.0 but tiktok is wayyyy bigger and influential than Vine ever was.
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Oct 17, 2021 11:31:20 GMT 10
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Post by 10slover on Oct 17, 2021 11:31:20 GMT 10
Hey man... no hate, this is just the way we debate things in this website lol frantic
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Oct 17, 2021 14:00:02 GMT 10
Post by John Titor on Oct 17, 2021 14:00:02 GMT 10
Thats not 1 Pop punk song Olivia Rodrigo and MGK have both gone to number 1 Lil Huddy also is in Burger King commercials right now on TV , you have no idea what you are talking about lol Billboard article October 2021
www.billboard.com/articles/news/21-under-21/9642303/lilhuddy-olivia-rodrigo-young-pop-punk-movement/
Guitars are back in popular music thanks in large part to a new class of artists eager to let riffs fly.
Over the past year, pop-punk and alternative rock have reasserted their place in mainstream music — and this year’s 21 Under 21 list reflects that resurgence, with nearly half of the artists loosely fitting that mold.
In 2020, on the heels of TikTok fame, jxdn became Travis Barker’s first signee to his DTA Records label (an imprint of Elektra). “I was interested in someone his age venturing into that [pop-rock] sound,” Barker told Billboard in August 2020, emphasizing how jxdn’s social media savvy is a huge selling point for breaking an artist now. “It’s a big reason why he’s popular, but it’s one of the reasons that rock bands in general are not popular, because they don’t know how to use social media,” said Barker. “I just feel like it’s one of the things that makes an artist [today], love it or hate it.” In the last year alone, Barker has also helped young talent including Willow, Nessa Barrett and LILHUDDY land alternative and rock hits.
21 Under 21: See Who Made the 2021 List
LILHUDDY, who similarly translated a TikTok following into a faithful fan base, found fast success in the pop-punk lane — and even starred in Machine Gun Kelly’s album film, Downfalls High. After signing with Adam Mersel’s Immersive Records (an Interscope imprint) in January, the rising artist released his debut album and scored a high-profile brand campaign with Burger King.
Considering TikTok’s role in helping what was once old become new again, it’s natural that artists like jxdn, LILHUDDY and others are finding success by infusing the genre with new flavor: mixing guitars with hip-hop beats for bite-size, social media-friendly choruses.
LILHUDDY “was really a student of pop-punk,” says Mersel of what initially stood out to him about the artist. “For him, it was always about the genre and redefining what it meant to be a young person in 2020 ... doing that kind of music and doing it in an authentic way that made sense for him and didn’t feel copycat or something that was derivative of something else.”
“Even though there’s this resurgence of pop-punk going on, it didn’t feel like [LILHUDDY] was making that kind of music to fit into a box,” continues Mersel. “But I think it’s a blessing because it opened the door to the sound really resonating with young people and a rediscovering [of this genre] through young people.”
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Oct 17, 2021 14:03:44 GMT 10
Post by John Titor on Oct 17, 2021 14:03:44 GMT 10
From Billboard Magazine www.billboard.com/articles/news/21-under-21/9642303/lilhuddy-olivia-rodrigo-young-pop-punk-movement/Guitars are back in popular music thanks in large part to a new class of artists eager to let riffs fly.
Over the past year, pop-punk and alternative rock have reasserted their place in mainstream music — and this year’s 21 Under 21 list reflects that resurgence, with nearly half of the artists loosely fitting that mold.
In 2020, on the heels of TikTok fame, jxdn became Travis Barker’s first signee to his DTA Records label (an imprint of Elektra). “I was interested in someone his age venturing into that [pop-rock] sound,” Barker told Billboard in August 2020, emphasizing how jxdn’s social media savvy is a huge selling point for breaking an artist now. “It’s a big reason why he’s popular, but it’s one of the reasons that rock bands in general are not popular, because they don’t know how to use social media,” said Barker. “I just feel like it’s one of the things that makes an artist [today], love it or hate it.” In the last year alone, Barker has also helped young talent including Willow, Nessa Barrett and LILHUDDY land alternative and rock hits.
21 Under 21: See Who Made the 2021 List
LILHUDDY, who similarly translated a TikTok following into a faithful fan base, found fast success in the pop-punk lane — and even starred in Machine Gun Kelly’s album film, Downfalls High. After signing with Adam Mersel’s Immersive Records (an Interscope imprint) in January, the rising artist released his debut album and scored a high-profile brand campaign with Burger King.
Considering TikTok’s role in helping what was once old become new again, it’s natural that artists like jxdn, LILHUDDY and others are finding success by infusing the genre with new flavor: mixing guitars with hip-hop beats for bite-size, social media-friendly choruses.
LILHUDDY “was really a student of pop-punk,” says Mersel of what initially stood out to him about the artist. “For him, it was always about the genre and redefining what it meant to be a young person in 2020 ... doing that kind of music and doing it in an authentic way that made sense for him and didn’t feel copycat or something that was derivative of something else.”
“Even though there’s this resurgence of pop-punk going on, it didn’t feel like [LILHUDDY] was making that kind of music to fit into a box,” continues Mersel. “But I think it’s a blessing because it opened the door to the sound really resonating with young people and a rediscovering [of this genre] through young people.”
Also E boy and E girl is not niche it's mainstream, go outside to NY or LATik Tok is pop culture, if it wasn't Lil Nas X wouldn't have blown up
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Oct 17, 2021 16:22:17 GMT 10
Post by nightmarefarm on Oct 17, 2021 16:22:17 GMT 10
It's the same stuff. EDM/Trap pop, trap mumble rap, trop house pop, occasional slow whispery pop and the occasional 70s/80s style pop song in music. Same type of memes. Gaming wise, PS5 and Xbox Series X has released but they're far from the standard yet. Not many people have them partly due to the shortage of units up for sale. Only 3 next gen exclusives have released about a year into this new generation, one of which is a remake of a 2009 game. We haven't seen much of true next gen graphics apart from Horizon Forbidden West. Apart from the rise and fall of battle royale, gaming trends haven't changed much. I haven't noticed any change in mainstream fashion unless covid masks count. Tech has hardly changed besides alexa assistants. Smartphones are basically the same just sleeker and bigger and faster with faster charging. We still use Windows 10 which became the norm in 2016. TikTok is a thing now so i'll give it that at least but it's not revolutionary. Vine did it before. The only massive change is political with COVID, Biden and Boris Johnson being elected, BLM riots, Capital riots, etc etc. 2016 style EDM is not popular anymore at all lol When was the last you heard a Chainsmokers style hit song on the radio? It's just not popular anymore 2021 trap is very different from 2016 trap, it's way less bare-bones and emo-trap isn't popular anymore, mumblerap was a fad in 2017-2018 and now it's gone. "Trop house pop"? That music trend that was popular from 2015 to 2017? It's not popular anymore, i mean.... when was the last time you heard a song that sounded like "shape of you"? Throwback songs also were less popular in 2016 and 2000s nostalgia songs (that are becoming common in 2021) weren't a thing at all back them. Memes are also wayyyy different, a meme like "harambe" and "damn daniel" simply would not be popular in 2021, 2021 is way more sarcastic and witty. Fashion is definitely changing right now, we're seeing the return of baggy clothing and a bunch of other fashion trends from the 2000s. TikTok is basically vine 2.0 but tiktok is wayyyy bigger and influential than Vine ever was. >2016 style EDM is not popular anymore at all lol. I'm not talking about EDM, i'm talking about EDM-pop. Pop with weird EDM style production elements in the song. >"Trop house pop"? That music trend that was popular from 2015 to 2017? It's not popular anymore, i mean.... when was the last time you heard a song that sounded like "shape of you"? Yes it is. There's tons of songs in the early 20s with the same trop house style production elements We still have the same musical trends as 2016 Overly processed vocals, trop house, EDM fused pop, trap, some hipstery pop here and there. The only difference is more throwback pop and less mumble rap. >Throwback songs also were less popular in 2016 and 2000s nostalgia songs (that are becoming common in 2021) weren't a thing at all back them. Point taken but throwback songs are still in the minority. Even the throwback songs in the early 20s just feel like a fusion between the sound of the late 10s and X decade. >Memes are also wayyyy different, a meme like "harambe" and "damn daniel" simply would not be popular in 2021, 2021 is way more sarcastic and witty. 2016 is where you started to see the type of memes we have today. That is when memes started getting sarcastic, weird, post ironic and witty. Twitter memes with a white background, black text at the top and an image underneath. Drake hotline bling meme format. Images with captions representing things. Deep fried memes. Post irony Etc. Memes like "dat boi" wouldn't be out of place today. >Fashion is definitely changing right now, we're seeing the return of baggy clothing and a bunch of other fashion trends from the 2000s. Haven't really noticed it at all >TikTok is basically vine 2.0 but tiktok is wayyyy bigger and influential than Vine ever was. It did popularise the short video format more than Vine(YouTube now has YouTube shorts) but it's not really revolutionary, it's just another social media platform.
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Oct 17, 2021 22:21:09 GMT 10
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Post by 10slover on Oct 17, 2021 22:21:09 GMT 10
He really does live in a parallel universe
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Oct 18, 2021 0:24:27 GMT 10
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Post by Telso on Oct 18, 2021 0:24:27 GMT 10
Gentle reminder that tropical house and dancehall aren't the same thing. Dancehall is a Jamaican genre that existed since decades and is the genre that mostly inspired "Shape of You". That's why it sounds exactly like Sia's "Cheap Trills" which is also dancehall-inspired.
Trop house is a type of laidback EDM that was only popular in like what... 2015-2017 at best?
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Oct 18, 2021 0:31:40 GMT 10
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Post by 10slover on Oct 18, 2021 0:31:40 GMT 10
Gentle reminder that tropical house and dancehall aren't the same thing. Dancehall is a Jamaican genre that existed since decades and is the genre that mostly inspired "Shape of You". That's why it sounds exactly like Sia's "Cheap Trills" which is also dancehall-inspired. Trop house is a type of laidback EDM that was only popular in like what... 2015-2017 at best? Shape Of You is tropical House and Dancehall
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It's just not popular anymore