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Post by slashpop on Dec 6, 2021 16:55:27 GMT 10
1970s inspiration started showing up as early as late 1992 but it was already a thing a solid style in 1994, and 1995 and 1996, you could buy the same outfits in the pictures then. At that time it was there but it didn't pop out as much as 1997-1999 because it was sometimes overshadowed by grunge and cheesy sterotypical 90s fashion, but it was mainstream, you could easily spot a number of people wearing baggy bell bottom jeans, fuzzy jackets, and similar outfits in pictures in a year like 1995 in the malls. I think early 2000s fashion was getting rid of it, there were some elements of it, but it was becoming its own thing and shares a little more common with core and mid 2000s fashion. Y2K era It's definitely a more minimalist futuristic spin on in the 70s influences, late 90s it was a bit toned down and simple, mid 90s is a bit exaggerated and louder. That makes sense. I think 1980s-inspired fashion took over in the early 2000s, by the second half of 2001 or 2002, but I guess hints of that could be traced back to the late 1990s by mid to late 1997 or 1998. I would say 80s inspired fashion could be at earliest signs around 2003. It got mainstream 2004-2005. I would say 1997-1999 is when you saw earliest signs of interest in the 80s whether t-shirts/mugs/toys, emulators, word of mouth or magazine articles. I don't remember fashion from then, there could be a limited edition fashion item but nothing comes to mind.
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Post by slashpop on Dec 6, 2021 18:23:06 GMT 10
80s fashion lasted from 2004 to around 2012 and then selective elements from 2013 to today
Here's a music video from 1994 to give you sense of 70s influence related the outfits above:
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Post by John Titor on Dec 7, 2021 2:19:41 GMT 10
1970s inspiration started showing up as early as late 1992 but it was already a thing a solid style in 1994, and 1995 and 1996, you could buy the same outfits in the pictures then. At that time it was there but it didn't pop out as much as 1997-1999 because it was sometimes overshadowed by grunge and cheesy sterotypical 90s fashion, but it was mainstream, you could easily spot a number of people wearing baggy bell bottom jeans, fuzzy jackets, and similar outfits in pictures in a year like 1995 in the malls. I think early 2000s fashion was getting rid of it, there were some elements of it, but it was becoming its own thing and shares a little more common with core and mid 2000s fashion. Y2K era It's definitely a more minimalist futuristic spin on in the 70s influences, late 90s it was a bit toned down and simple, mid 90s is a bit exaggerated and louder. That makes sense. I guess people were more nostalgic for the 1970s in the 1990s than they were in the 2000s. 1980s nostalgia was huge in the 2000s. I think 1980s-inspired fashion took over in the early 2000s, by the second half of 2001 or 2002, but I guess hints of that could be traced back to the late 1990s by mid to late 1997 or 1998. Quite a bit of fashion trends established in the early 2000s carried over to 2004, 2005 and maybe even 2006 or 2007 to some extent. thats why That 70s show came out in 1998
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Post by John Titor on Dec 7, 2021 2:23:49 GMT 10
That makes sense. I think 1980s-inspired fashion took over in the early 2000s, by the second half of 2001 or 2002, but I guess hints of that could be traced back to the late 1990s by mid to late 1997 or 1998. I would say 80s inspired fashion could be at earliest signs around 2003. It got mainstream 2004-2005. I would say 1997-1999 is when you saw earliest signs of interest in the 80s whether t-shirts/mugs/toys, emulators, word of mouth or magazine articles. I don't remember fashion from then, there could be a limited edition fashion item but nothing comes to mind. 2002 is the year that springs to mind is when the 80s came back with a force, it started of with That 80s show on Fox ( think this set the template) even tho it was a bomb. And then......... VICE CITY launches Q4 of 2002 and everyone and their dog are singing 80s tunes. Few months later Vh1 rebrands with their new 80s looking logo with a host of former 80s stars in reality shows ( Surreal Life, My Fair Brady, I love the 80s 3D etc etc) For those who were not around in 2002, let me tell you Vice City was like a pop culture Avengers endgame type moment. It caused a chain reaction. A few of my fav Vice City songs that became popular again at that time ( radio stations started playing some of the music again)
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 7, 2021 2:27:45 GMT 10
I would say 80s inspired fashion could be at earliest signs around 2003. It got mainstream 2004-2005. I would say 1997-1999 is when you saw earliest signs of interest in the 80s whether t-shirts/mugs/toys, emulators, word of mouth or magazine articles. I don't remember fashion from then, there could be a limited edition fashion item but nothing comes to mind. 2002 is the year that springs to mind is when the 80s came back with a force, it started of with That 80s show on Fox ( think this set the template) even tho it was a bomb. And then......... VICE CITY launches Q4 of 2002 and everyone and their dog are singing 80s tunes. Few months later Vh1 rebrands with their new 80s looking logo with a host of former 80s stars in reality shows ( Surreal Life, My Fair Brady, I love the 80s 3D etc etc) I feel like 2000s 80s nostalgia was more real than 2020s 80s nostalgia too, because it was done by people who actually grew up in the 80s. Now it's done by people who were literally born in the 90s (The Weeknd and Dua Lipa in particular), so it's become a hyper-stereotypical hyper-synthwave caricature of the 80s that's honestly kinda lame. This is part of the reason why I think we should finally move on from any 80s nostalgia. They were great, but it's overdone and hella lame now. Late 90s - 2000s nostalgia needs to fully take over, they were just as great if not better than the 80s IMO.
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Post by John Titor on Dec 7, 2021 2:29:09 GMT 10
2002 is the year that springs to mind is when the 80s came back with a force, it started of with That 80s show on Fox ( think this set the template) even tho it was a bomb. And then......... VICE CITY launches Q4 of 2002 and everyone and their dog are singing 80s tunes. Few months later Vh1 rebrands with their new 80s looking logo with a host of former 80s stars in reality shows ( Surreal Life, My Fair Brady, I love the 80s 3D etc etc) 2000s 80s nostalgia was more real than 2020s 80s nostalgia too, because it was done by people who grew up in the 80s. Now it's done by people who were literally born in the 90s (The Weeknd and Dua Lipa in particular), so it's a hyper-stereotypical hyper-synthwave caricature of the 80s. It felt way more in your face from 2002- 2009, graphics on tv even reflected this. You could not escape it.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 7, 2021 2:39:10 GMT 10
2000s 80s nostalgia was more real than 2020s 80s nostalgia too, because it was done by people who grew up in the 80s. Now it's done by people who were literally born in the 90s (The Weeknd and Dua Lipa in particular), so it's a hyper-stereotypical hyper-synthwave caricature of the 80s. It felt way more in your face from 2002- 2009, graphics on tv even reflected this. You could not escape it. I feel like you can hardly escape it now. Look at the 2021 YE chart, it's awful. I feel like the Early 2000s still had a lot more fresh music topping the charts atleast. You weren't listening to unoriginal corny 80s throwbacks all day at work on the radio. Even the 80s nostalgia itself felt more original back then. Now it's just lame and corny. I do nu-disco like "Don't Start Now" and "Break My Heart" by Dua Lipa because it actually feels original.
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Post by Telso on Dec 7, 2021 20:35:44 GMT 10
It felt way more in your face from 2002- 2009, graphics on tv even reflected this. You could not escape it. I feel like you can hardly escape it now. Look at the 2021 YE chart, it's awful. I feel like the Early 2000s still had a lot more fresh music topping the charts atleast. You weren't listening to unoriginal corny 80s throwbacks all day at work on the radio. Even the 80s nostalgia itself felt more original back then. Now it's just lame and corny. I do nu-disco like "Don't Start Now" and "Break My Heart" by Dua Lipa because it actually feels original. True, truly 80s-inspired music was surprisingly rare to find in 2000s popular music. Even the most nostalgic song for the 80s, Bowling For Soup's "1985", is pure 2000s pop punk cheese.
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Post by 10slover on Dec 7, 2021 21:40:08 GMT 10
It felt way more in your face from 2002- 2009, graphics on tv even reflected this. You could not escape it. I feel like you can hardly escape it now. Look at the 2021 YE chart, it's awful. I feel like the Early 2000s still had a lot more fresh music topping the charts atleast. You weren't listening to unoriginal corny 80s throwbacks all day at work on the radio. Even the 80s nostalgia itself felt more original back then. Now it's just lame and corny. I do nu-disco like "Don't Start Now" and "Break My Heart" by Dua Lipa because it actually feels original. Aren't DSN and BMH (and levitating) 70s inspired songs? Most of future nostalgia is 70s inspired, there are 80s inspired songs but they ain't the majority at all
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Post by mc98 on Dec 8, 2021 1:00:47 GMT 10
I feel like you can hardly escape it now. Look at the 2021 YE chart, it's awful. I feel like the Early 2000s still had a lot more fresh music topping the charts atleast. You weren't listening to unoriginal corny 80s throwbacks all day at work on the radio. Even the 80s nostalgia itself felt more original back then. Now it's just lame and corny. I do nu-disco like "Don't Start Now" and "Break My Heart" by Dua Lipa because it actually feels original. Aren't DSN and BMH (and levitating) 70s inspired songs? Most of future nostalgia is 70s inspired, there are 80s inspired songs but they ain't the majority at all Tbh, Don’t Start Now sounds more closer to late 90s/early 00s nu-disco than the actual 70s.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Dec 8, 2021 1:04:33 GMT 10
Aren't DSN and BMH (and levitating) 70s inspired songs? Most of future nostalgia is 70s inspired, there are 80s inspired songs but they ain't the majority at all Tbh, Don’t Start Now sounds more closer to late 90s/early 00s nu-disco than the actual 70s. to me "Don't Start Now" really doesn't sound like any era besides early 2020s, it's a disco song but unique to this era. "Break My Heart" as well. My main problem with "throwback" music is unoriginal songs like "Blinding Lights" that try to actually imitate an old era with no uniqueness. "Starboy" also by The Weeknd is a lot better IMO because it actually sounds unique to 2016/2017 despite being a "throwback" song, if you know what I mean.
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Post by 10slover on Dec 8, 2021 1:29:34 GMT 10
Aren't DSN and BMH (and levitating) 70s inspired songs? Most of future nostalgia is 70s inspired, there are 80s inspired songs but they ain't the majority at all Tbh, Don’t Start Now sounds more closer to late 90s/early 00s nu-disco than the actual 70s. SO TRUE I've been telling people this I feel like Dua Lipa's new material is actually a throwback to early 2000s nu-disco rather than to actual 70s music Throwback to a throwback
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Post by 10slover on Dec 8, 2021 1:31:42 GMT 10
Tbh, Don’t Start Now sounds more closer to late 90s/early 00s nu-disco than the actual 70s. to me "Don't Start Now" really doesn't sound like any era besides early 2020s, it's a disco song but unique to this era. "Break My Heart" as well. My main problem with "throwback" music is unoriginal songs like "Blinding Lights" that try to actually imitate an old era with no uniqueness. "Starboy" also by The Weeknd is a lot better IMO because it actually sounds unique to 2016/2017 despite being a "throwback" song, if you know what I mean. Yeah, it's his only good song
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