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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 9:12:48 GMT 10
My point about the wii was sarcasm since you think sales is directly correlated to quality. By your logic the Wii is great because it's the 3rd most sold console in the world. Why did you use DMC2 as an example lol? There are some good PS2 games but most are shovelware and on top of that it's extremely outdated technologically in many ways. It doesn't have proper triggers on the controller for one. The online features are very limited and rarely do games implement an online mode. I could write an essay about this. PS2 objectively had the best quality of any system, even rivaling SNES. In most top 10 lists PS2 is always at #1 as the greatest console of all time. You said a few months ago things get hazy for you in 2006, so about 2005 you really wouldn't been into mature games because you would most likely be in pre-school at the time, Wii is more fit for someone in kindergarden and preschool because most of the games are rated E for everyone. Not even counting sales, ask anyone on the street the greatest video game system of all time and most will either say SNES or PS2 >PS2 objectively had the best quality of any system >Not even counting sales, ask anyone on the street the greatest video game system of all time and most will either say SNES or PS2 Cope. How do you even define "quality" of video games objectively? By asking people on the street if it's good or not? Lol, if we're going to do that then I guess series like Call of Duty and GTA are objectively the best gaming franchises. A lot of your takes seem to just be completely devoid of any freethinking and just basing everything on the general consensus even though most people have absolutely putrid taste in video game and media in general(which is why pop music nowadays is generally crappy and blockbuster superhero movies are everywhere). >You said a few months ago things get hazy for you in 2006, so about 2005 you really wouldn't been into mature games because you would most likely be in pre-school at the time, It's obvious you're just gatekeeping for gatekeeping sake at this point since I told you that I had my PS2 from 2005 up until the early 10s(2012 is where I got my PS3 and when I stopped playing PS2). I had 7 years of experience with the console. There are some great games on it like Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2. There were also many shit games on it like Sonic Heroes which was the first game I had on the system. Most games were crappy shovelware. And like I said, it is technologically leagues behind it's successors. Most of the rose tinted nostalgia goggles PS2 fanboys sing praises about how it was the best but they always game on modern consoles and would never sell their newer ones to go back to maining the PS2.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 9:24:22 GMT 10
PS2 objectively had the best quality of any system, even rivaling SNES. In most top 10 lists PS2 is always at #1 as the greatest console of all time. You said a few months ago things get hazy for you in 2006, so about 2005 you really wouldn't been into mature games because you would most likely be in pre-school at the time, Wii is more fit for someone in kindergarden and preschool because most of the games are rated E for everyone. Not even counting sales, ask anyone on the street the greatest video game system of all time and most will either say SNES or PS2 >PS2 objectively had the best quality of any system >Not even counting sales, ask anyone on the street the greatest video game system of all time and most will either say SNES or PS2 Cope. How do you even define "quality" of video games objectively? By asking people on the street if it's good or not? Lol, if we're going to do that then I guess series like Call of Duty and GTA are objectively the best gaming franchises. A lot of your takes seem to just be completely devoid of any freethinking and just basing everything on the general consensus even though most people have absolutely putrid taste in video game and media in general(which is why pop music nowadays is generally crappy and blockbuster superhero movies are everywhere). >You said a few months ago things get hazy for you in 2006, so about 2005 you really wouldn't been into mature games because you would most likely be in pre-school at the time, It's obvious you're just gatekeeping for gatekeeping sake at this point since I told you that I had my PS2 from 2005 up until the early 10s(2012 is where I got my PS3 and when I stopped playing PS2). I had 7 years of experience with the console. There are some great games on it like Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2. There were also many shit games on it like Sonic Heroes which was the first game I had on the system. Most games were crappy shovelware. And like I said, it is technologically leagues behind it's successors. Most of the rose tinted nostalgia goggles PS2 fanboys sing praises about how it was the best but they always game on modern consoles and would never sell their newer ones to go back to maining the PS2. No cope at all, here is data that backs up what I said, Cold hard facts that give you the vibe of the GP Us Gamers says PS2 is the greatest console everwww.usgamer.net/articles/the-case-for-the-playstation-2-being-the-greatest-console-everReddit says PS2 is the greatest console everhttps://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1x7hka/cmv_playstation_2_ps2_is_the_best_video_game/ LADBIBLE says PS2 is the greatest console ever
www.ladbible.com/entertainment/gaming-the-ps2-was-the-best-video-games-console-of-all-time-fact-20170303
Youtubers agree PS2 is the greatest console of all timeThe Guardian says PS2 is #2 greatest console of all time behind SNESwww.theguardian.com/games/2020/jul/16/the-25-greatest-video-game-consoles-ranked
Goliath says PS2 is the greatest system of all timewww.goliath.com/gaming/10-reasons-why-the-ps2-beat-the-xbox-and-gamecube/
Tech Radar says PS2 is the greatest video game system of all timewww.techradar.com/news/best-games-consoles-playstation-2-the-console-that-made-nintendo-and-sega-weepWhatCulture says PS2 is the greatest video game system of all time
Of course people would not go back to PS2 for the same reason why we don't go back to ps1,n64, xbox 1 LOL Outside of novelty factor like Nintendo NES online etc.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 9:30:19 GMT 10
>PS2 objectively had the best quality of any system >Not even counting sales, ask anyone on the street the greatest video game system of all time and most will either say SNES or PS2 Cope. How do you even define "quality" of video games objectively? By asking people on the street if it's good or not? Lol, if we're going to do that then I guess series like Call of Duty and GTA are objectively the best gaming franchises. A lot of your takes seem to just be completely devoid of any freethinking and just basing everything on the general consensus even though most people have absolutely putrid taste in video game and media in general(which is why pop music nowadays is generally crappy and blockbuster superhero movies are everywhere). >You said a few months ago things get hazy for you in 2006, so about 2005 you really wouldn't been into mature games because you would most likely be in pre-school at the time, It's obvious you're just gatekeeping for gatekeeping sake at this point since I told you that I had my PS2 from 2005 up until the early 10s(2012 is where I got my PS3 and when I stopped playing PS2). I had 7 years of experience with the console. There are some great games on it like Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2. There were also many shit games on it like Sonic Heroes which was the first game I had on the system. Most games were crappy shovelware. And like I said, it is technologically leagues behind it's successors. Most of the rose tinted nostalgia goggles PS2 fanboys sing praises about how it was the best but they always game on modern consoles and would never sell their newer ones to go back to maining the PS2. No cope at all, here is data that backs up what I said Us Gamers says PS2 is the greatest console everwww.usgamer.net/articles/the-case-for-the-playstation-2-being-the-greatest-console-everReddit says PS2 is the greatest console everhttps://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1x7hka/cmv_playstation_2_ps2_is_the_best_video_game/ LADBIBLE says PS2 is the greatest console ever
www.ladbible.com/entertainment/gaming-the-ps2-was-the-best-video-games-console-of-all-time-fact-20170303
Youtubers agree PS2 is the greatest console of all timeThe Guardian says PS2 is #2 greatest console of all time behind SNESwww.theguardian.com/games/2020/jul/16/the-25-greatest-video-game-consoles-ranked
Goliath says PS2 is the greatest system of all timewww.goliath.com/gaming/10-reasons-why-the-ps2-beat-the-xbox-and-gamecube/
Tech Radar says PS2 is the greatest video game system of all timewww.techradar.com/news/best-games-consoles-playstation-2-the-console-that-made-nintendo-and-sega-weepAgain, entirely basing your own opinions on what other people think because you can't even use your brain to formulate opinions anymore. Like I said, if general consensus determined objectivitiy, modern pop music would be objectively god tier lmao. >Of course people would not go back to PS2 for the same reason why we don't go back to ps1,n64, xbox 1 LOL Exactly. Hence why "PS2 is da best!!!" is hypocrisy.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 9:32:42 GMT 10
>PS2 objectively had the best quality of any system >Not even counting sales, ask anyone on the street the greatest video game system of all time and most will either say SNES or PS2 Cope. How do you even define "quality" of video games objectively? By asking people on the street if it's good or not? Lol, if we're going to do that then I guess series like Call of Duty and GTA are objectively the best gaming franchises. A lot of your takes seem to just be completely devoid of any freethinking and just basing everything on the general consensus even though most people have absolutely putrid taste in video game and media in general(which is why pop music nowadays is generally crappy and blockbuster superhero movies are everywhere). >You said a few months ago things get hazy for you in 2006, so about 2005 you really wouldn't been into mature games because you would most likely be in pre-school at the time, It's obvious you're just gatekeeping for gatekeeping sake at this point since I told you that I had my PS2 from 2005 up until the early 10s(2012 is where I got my PS3 and when I stopped playing PS2). I had 7 years of experience with the console. There are some great games on it like Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2. There were also many shit games on it like Sonic Heroes which was the first game I had on the system. Most games were crappy shovelware. And like I said, it is technologically leagues behind it's successors. Most of the rose tinted nostalgia goggles PS2 fanboys sing praises about how it was the best but they always game on modern consoles and would never sell their newer ones to go back to maining the PS2. No cope at all, here is data that backs up what I said, Cold hard facts that give you the vibe of the GP Us Gamers says PS2 is the greatest console everwww.usgamer.net/articles/the-case-for-the-playstation-2-being-the-greatest-console-everReddit says PS2 is the greatest console everhttps://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1x7hka/cmv_playstation_2_ps2_is_the_best_video_game/ LADBIBLE says PS2 is the greatest console ever
www.ladbible.com/entertainment/gaming-the-ps2-was-the-best-video-games-console-of-all-time-fact-20170303
Youtubers agree PS2 is the greatest console of all timeThe Guardian says PS2 is #2 greatest console of all time behind SNESwww.theguardian.com/games/2020/jul/16/the-25-greatest-video-game-consoles-ranked
Goliath says PS2 is the greatest system of all timewww.goliath.com/gaming/10-reasons-why-the-ps2-beat-the-xbox-and-gamecube/
Tech Radar says PS2 is the greatest video game system of all timewww.techradar.com/news/best-games-consoles-playstation-2-the-console-that-made-nintendo-and-sega-weepWhatCulture says PS2 is the greatest video game system of all time
Of course people would not go back to PS2 for the same reason why we don't go back to ps1,n64, xbox 1 LOL Outside of novelty factor like Nintendo NES online etc. Did you ever stop to think about why so many of these websites claim that ps2 is the best ? Maybe because there is truth to it if everyone is saying it ?
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 9:37:07 GMT 10
Did you ever stop to think about why so many of these websites claim that ps2 is the best ? Maybe because there is truth to it if everyone is saying it ? All of those people saying it main modern consoles. Actions speak louder than words.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 9:45:37 GMT 10
Did you ever stop to think about why so many of these websites claim that ps2 is the best ? Maybe because there is truth to it if everyone is saying it ? it main modern consoles. Actions speak louder than words. They are saying ps2 is the greatest system, they are not saying anything else. You can love Star Wars Episode 7 and have it be your favorite and still watch newer Star Wars movies. None of those articles are saying ps3 is better than ps2 or wii is better than ps2.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 9:47:27 GMT 10
All of those people saying it main modern consoles. Actions speak louder than words. They are saying ps2 is the greatest system, they are not saying anything else. You can love Star Wars Episode 7 and have it be your favorite and still watch newer Star Wars movies. Except if SW episode 7 was someones favourite movie then they would rewatch it more than they would newer movies whereas the people who say PS2 is the greatest console, regularly play on newer consoles and never go back to the PS2.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 9:54:46 GMT 10
They are saying ps2 is the greatest system, they are not saying anything else. You can love Star Wars Episode 7 and have it be your favorite and still watch newer Star Wars movies. Except if SW episode 7 was someones favourite movie then they would rewatch it more than they would newer movies whereas the people who say PS2 is the greatest console, regularly play on newer consoles and never go back to the PS2. So according to your logic if I thought Windows XP is my fav I will be using that instead of Windows 10 and 11, Windows XP is my favorite so according to you I must be going back to it over and over again. I miss dial up so according to you I should plug in my phone line and get Net Zero.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 9:57:14 GMT 10
Except if SW episode 7 was someones favourite movie then they would rewatch it more than they would newer movies whereas the people who say PS2 is the greatest console, regularly play on newer consoles and never go back to the PS2. So according to your logic if I thought Windows XP is my fav I will be using that instead of Windows 10 and 11, Windows XP is my favorite so according to you I must be going back to it over and over again. I miss dial up so according to you I should plug in my phone line and get Net Zero. You could say it's your favourite but if you say XP is the best objectively but don't main that OS then you are a hypocrite.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 9:59:02 GMT 10
So according to your logic if I thought Windows XP is my fav I will be using that instead of Windows 10 and 11, Windows XP is my favorite so according to you I must be going back to it over and over again. I miss dial up so according to you I should plug in my phone line and get Net Zero. You could say it's your favourite but if you say XP is the best objectively but don't main that OS then you are a hypocrite. I use Windows 10 because there are programs that were not invented when XP was around, I am forced to use a OS for programs that only work with said OS.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 10:01:22 GMT 10
You could say it's your favourite but if you say XP is the best objectively but don't main that OS then you are a hypocrite. I use Windows 10 because there are programs that were not invented when XP was around, I am forced to use a OS for programs that only work with said OS. Well then, if you have to use 10 because of functionalities it provides which XP doesn't then you make the case that 10 is objectively better.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 10:05:36 GMT 10
Wrong, I use Windows 10 because there are programs that were not invented when XP was around, I am forced to use a OS for programs that only work with said OS. Well then, if you have to use 10 because of functionalities it provides which XP doesn't then you make the case that 10 is objectively better. I still think XP is better
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 10:10:50 GMT 10
Well then, if you have to use 10 because of functionalities it provides which XP doesn't then you make the case that 10 is objectively better. I still think XP is better If it was, you would still be using XP
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Post by John Titor on Jan 12, 2022 10:13:45 GMT 10
I still think XP is better If it was, you would still be using XP I no longer have XP that is why I don't use it, if I had it in my grasp I would use it
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 12, 2022 10:21:11 GMT 10
If it was, you would still be using XP I no longer have XP that is why I don't use it, if I had it in my grasp I would use it Well nothings stopping PS2 fanboys from getting one. They're many times cheaper than a PS5 or even a PS4
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