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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 11:50:44 GMT 10
I think with the 1990s and 2010s, their identity was clear and established early on with strong hints in 1988-1989 and 2008-2009 respectively. I didn’t see much online posts in 2011 or 2012 bitching about the 2010s being a 2000s copycat. Instead they claimed the 2010s began in 2008, which I disagree with. I believe they began in late 2009.
Whereas as late as 2003 and the first half of 2004, people whined online about the 2000s being a 1990s copycat, which I also disagree with. 2000s culture took off in the second half of 2001 imo.
I’m wondering if the 2020s identity is already here, but maybe I’m not seeing it with late 2018 and 2019 maybe having minor hints or signs, but 2020 and 2021 more so. I can’t tell. I’m not talking about COVID, which halted pop culture. I’m speaking about aesthetics, music, movies, TV, fashion, gaming, technology, transportation. IMO music and fashion are starting to seem distinct from the late 2010s, but everything else still seems late 2010s. I think the 2020s identity may hit us as early as spring 2023 and as late as fall 2024. 2022 could be a 2021 part 2 with the 2020s identity becoming clearer. I feel as if the puzzle is still being pieced together. I don’t believe we’re in full-on 2020s culture yet. I think we’re still in a transition. Who knows.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 17, 2022 11:57:13 GMT 10
I think with the 1990s and 2010s, their identity was clear and established early on with strong hints in 1988-1989 and 2008-2009 respectively. I didn’t see much online posts in 2011 or 2012 bitching about the 2010s being a 2000s copycat. Instead they claimed the 2010s began in 2008, which I disagree with. I believe they began in late 2009. Whereas as late as 2003 and the first half of 2004, people whined online about the 2000s being a 1990s copycat, which I also disagree with. 2000s culture took off in the second half of 2001 imo. I’m wondering if the 2020s identity is already here, but maybe I’m not seeing it with late 2018 and 2019 maybe having minor hints or signs, but 2020 and 2021 more so. I can’t tell. I’m not talking about COVID. I’m speaking about pop culture. I think the 2020s identity may hit us as early as spring 2023 and as late as by fall 2024. 2022 could be a 2021 part 2 with the 2020s identity becoming clearer. I feel as if the puzzle is still being pieced together. I don’t believe we’re in full-on 2020s culture yet. I think we’re still in a transition. Who knows. it is, you have to pinch zoom out years later to see, but it will be expanded upon in 2023 and 2024
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Post by dudewitdausername on Jan 17, 2022 12:02:53 GMT 10
I think with the 1990s and 2010s, their identity was clear and established early on with strong hints in 1988-1989 and 2008-2009 respectively. I didn’t see much online posts in 2011 or 2012 bitching about the 2010s being a 2000s copycat. Instead they claimed the 2010s began in 2008, which I disagree with. I believe they began in late 2009. Whereas as late as 2003 and the first half of 2004, people whined online about the 2000s being a 1990s copycat, which I also disagree with. 2000s culture took off in the second half of 2001 imo. I’m wondering if the 2020s identity is already here, but maybe I’m not seeing it with late 2018 and 2019 maybe having minor hints or signs, but 2020 and 2021 more so. I can’t tell. I’m not talking about COVID. I’m speaking about pop culture. I think the 2020s identity may hit us as early as spring 2023 and as late as by fall 2024. 2022 could be a 2021 part 2 with the 2020s identity becoming clearer. I feel as if the puzzle is still being pieced together. I don’t believe we’re in full-on 2020s culture yet. I think we’re still in a transition. Who knows. it is, you have to pinch zoom out years later to see, but it will be expanded upon in 2023 and 2024 2012 was a weird case where it was already so different from even 2009 that 2010s identity was clearly established. Most decades become more clear during the 2 or 3 year but it seems like it was 2011 for the 2010s.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 17, 2022 12:36:17 GMT 10
it is, you have to pinch zoom out years later to see, but it will be expanded upon in 2023 and 2024 So pretty soon we’ll have a “fall 2004” moment where the puzzle pieces of 2020s culture comes together as soon as spring 2023 and as late as fall 2024. pretty much, I am able to pinch out zoom with this stuff ( example pop punk threads in 2018/2019) so trust me by 2023/2024 it will make sense
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 12:57:06 GMT 10
So pretty soon we’ll have a “fall 2004” moment where the puzzle pieces of 2020s culture comes together as soon as spring 2023 and as late as fall 2024. pretty much, I am able to pinch out zoom with this stuff ( example pop punk threads in 2018/2019) so trust me by 2023/2024 it will make sense I trust you. So you’d also say that late 2021 is when the 2020s started coming into their own and 2022 will likely be peak early 2020s.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 3:19:57 GMT 10
Concerts and festivals need to kick into full swing again before we see anything big in pop music. The bedroom pop and throwback songs popular now are perfect for a world shut down and in an economic depression.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2022 3:20:24 GMT 10
I'm so angry at this post since the 2000s identity hit us in 1999...
But as for the 2020s, I think part of the identity for this decade has already hit us in 2020. Once the pandemic is over, it is not truly over. The effects Covid had on society, culture, and the economy will be with us the entire decade.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 18, 2022 3:23:41 GMT 10
Concerts and festivals need to kick into full swing again before we see anything big in pop music. The bedroom pop and throwback songs popular now are perfect for a world shut down and in an economic depression. bedroom pop has in been out of favor for several years now, your mistaking with genre of bedroom pop with other types of music out now
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Post by John Titor on Jan 18, 2022 3:25:07 GMT 10
I'm so angry at this post since the 2000s identity hit us in 1999... But as for the 2020s, I think part of the identity for this decade has already hit us in 2020. Once the pandemic is over, it is not truly over. The effects Covid had on society, culture, and the economy will be with us the entire decade. Like I said earlier, pinch zoom lol
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Post by John Titor on Jan 18, 2022 14:50:53 GMT 10
Hopefully in the next year or two we all get the memo of 2020s culture. yupp, just as a reminder, in 2003,2004 people were still saying nothing changed and that it was still the 90s but now 19,18 years removed we can clearly see when we pinch zoom
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 0:54:19 GMT 10
We are in definitely in peak early 2020s culture right now. But I don't think the early 2020s will be the definitive part of the decade. I think the definitive part of this decade will be the late 2020s. And the after-effects of the pandemic will still be with us then.
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Post by 10slover on Jan 22, 2022 1:23:10 GMT 10
Took a while for 60s culture to kick in, no? Before the second half of 1964 60s culture was no different from generic 50s culture
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Post by John Titor on Jan 22, 2022 1:47:21 GMT 10
we already here
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Post by sman12 on Jan 22, 2022 10:51:26 GMT 10
In terms of the core 2020s, then yes, for sure. The cultural changes that are unique to the 2020s right now include but not limited to, COVID (obviously), the expansion of the Metaverse (which is scary imo), NFTs being a thing somehow, 9th gen gaming, a new U.S. president, new mainstream OSes such as Windows 11, and private billionaire spaceflight.
But unless there's a worse catastrophe later on this decade (which I hope doesn't happen), COVID will most likely define this decade.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 23:35:01 GMT 10
In terms of the core 2020s, then yes, for sure. The cultural changes that are unique to the 2020s right now include but not limited to, COVID (obviously), the expansion of the Metaverse (which is scary imo), NFTs being a thing somehow, 9th gen gaming, a new U.S. president, new mainstream OSes such as Windows 11, and private billionaire spaceflight. But unless there's a worse catastrophe later on this decade (which I hope doesn't happen), COVID will most likely define this decade. The depressed economy and the end of the "new urbanism" that defined the 2010s is another defining aspect of this decade. This decade leans far more suburban and rural and with everyone working from home and living their lives online, there's less of a need for the traditional urban downtown. The complete end of brick and mortar retail outside of necessities like groceries will be another defining aspect of this decade. And then there's the militant Christianity aspect of it. You mention a worse crisis, and a US coup/civil war is not just in the deck but it's laid out on the table for 2024-25. That will remake the world order if it happens.
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