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Post by pumpkin14 on Jan 19, 2022 4:39:51 GMT 10
A lot of people say that the late 2010s (late 2016-2019) were a more conservative time in contrast to the early and mid Obama era 2010s. I think this is mainly due to Trump being elected and the alt right becoming very loud after his win. Despite all of that, I still think the late 2010s were still more liberal than conservative. Sure we had a trump presidency and the Charleston riots, and loud trump supporters screaming MAGA, but the general attitude of the public was still very liberal. Remember, Trump didn’t even win the popular vote. Most people voted against him and he was quite unpopular according to polls. His approval ratings were the lowest ever. Many republicans didn’t even like him (ex: Mitt Romney and George W Bush)
It was common/expected to dislike Trump as the president, many shows made fun of trump and his supporters constantly (SNL, Late night hosts like Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, and Jimmy Kimmel), the MeToo movement gained mainstream support in 2017 and brought attention to many abusers like Harvey Weinstein, Matt Lauer, and Bill O’Reilly (the last two were fired from their networks), conservative backlash was normal in the late 10s, “My Body, My Choice” became a common saying in the late 10s, movies like “Get Out”, “Black Panther”, “Crazy Rich Asians”, and “CoCo” were very successful POC-lead movies, which became more common in the late 10s due to discussions around POC representation, Gay Marriage was legal in all 50 states in the US for the entirety of the late 10s unlike the early or mid 10s, and young activists like Greta Thunberg and David Hogg became mainstream and began discussions of climate change and gun laws respectively. I’m sure there’s more examples but that’s what comes to mind right now. I honestly think the late 10s were more liberal than the early 10s
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Post by slashpop on Jan 19, 2022 4:41:45 GMT 10
A lot of people say that the late 2010s (late 2016-2019) were a more conservative time in contrast to the early and mid Obama era 2010s. I think this is mainly due to Trump being elected and the alt right becoming very loud after his win. Despite all of that, I still think the late 2010s were still more liberal than conservative. Sure we had a trump presidency and the Charleston riots, and loud trump supporters screaming MAGA, but the general attitude of the public was still very liberal. Remember, Trump didn’t even win the popular vote. Most people voted against him and he was quite unpopular according to polls It was common/expected to dislike Trump as the president, many shows made fun of trump and his supporters constantly (SNL, Late night hosts like Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, and Jimmy Kimmel), the MeToo movement gained mainstream support in 2017 and brought attention to many abusers like Harvey Weinstein, Matt Lauer, and Bill O’Reilly (the last two were fired from their networks), conservative backlash was normal in the late 10s, “My Body, My Choice” became a common saying in the late 10s, movies like “Get Out”, “Crazy Rich Asians”, and “CoCo” were very successful POC-lead movies, which became more common in the late 10s due to discussions around POC representation, Gay Marriage was legal in all 50 states in the US for the entirety of the late 10s unlike the early or mid 10s, and young activists like Greta Thunberg and David Hogg became mainstream and began discussions of climate change and gun laws respectively. I’m sure there’s more examples but that’s what comes to mind right now. I honestly think the late 10s were more liberal than the early 10s Well stated.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 19, 2022 4:58:43 GMT 10
- Trump gets elected after portraying himself as a far right figure
- Brexit
- Anti-SJW culture in full swing
Late 10s was definitely a conservative time. There's always a vocal minority and big 1% corporations promoting liberalism but votes represent the masses and they do not lie.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Jan 19, 2022 5:01:42 GMT 10
- Trump gets elected after portraying himself as a far right figure - Brexit - Anti-SJW culture in full swing Late 10s was definitely a conservative time. There's always a vocal minority and big 1% corporations promoting liberalism but votes represent the masses and they do not lie.Most people voted democrat in 2016 tho
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 19, 2022 5:17:03 GMT 10
- Trump gets elected after portraying himself as a far right figure - Brexit - Anti-SJW culture in full swing Late 10s was definitely a conservative time. There's always a vocal minority and big 1% corporations promoting liberalism but votes represent the masses and they do not lie.Most people voted democrat in 2016 tho They still elected trump even if it was done through the electoral college(not to sound like a right winger i'm being as neutral as possible). Trump was still president through the late 10s timeframe and way before that starting from like 2015 people started shitting on SJWs and republican viewpoints became more commonplace.
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Post by pumpkin14 on Jan 19, 2022 5:29:35 GMT 10
Most people voted democrat in 2016 tho They still elected trump even if it was done through the electoral college(not to sound like a right winger i'm being as neutral as possible). Trump was still president through the late 10s timeframe and way before that starting from like 2015 people started shitting on SJWs and republican viewpoints became more commonplace. Idk, to me it seemed like the liberal opinion was still the popular opinion throughout the late 2010s even if Trump was still president. Liberal talking points and vocabulary became commonplace in the late 10s. There was definitely a push back against that by the right, but the liberal point of view was still the more generally accepted point of view imo. Outside of Fox News, you wouldn’t see much support for Trump in the mainstream media, and if you did they’d get backlash for it
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Post by nightmarefarm on Jan 19, 2022 5:45:51 GMT 10
They still elected trump even if it was done through the electoral college(not to sound like a right winger i'm being as neutral as possible). Trump was still president through the late 10s timeframe and way before that starting from like 2015 people started shitting on SJWs and republican viewpoints became more commonplace. Idk, to me it seemed like the liberal opinion was still the popular opinion throughout the late 2010s even if Trump was still president. Liberal talking points and vocabulary became commonplace in the late 10s. There was definitely a push back against that by the right, but the liberal point of view was still the more generally accepted point of view imo. Outside of Fox News, you wouldn’t see much support for Trump in the mainstream media, and if you did they’d get backlash for it From my experience anti-SJW backlash was the general consensus back then. No one besides radical leftists used pronouns. Trump was shat on a lot but in general conservatism was more prevalent than liberalism.
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Post by 10slover on Jan 19, 2022 6:00:16 GMT 10
Inb4 bchris02 appears in this thread talking about the handmaid's tale
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Post by pumpkin14 on Jan 19, 2022 6:13:10 GMT 10
Inb4 bchris02 appears in this thread talking about the handmaid's tale Lol
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Post by slashpop on Jan 19, 2022 23:04:55 GMT 10
Liberal ideologies were fully mainstream in the mid 2010s, probably the most liberal era I've lived through. Conservative ideologies on certain subjects were fully mainstream by the end of the mid 2010s heading towards late 2010s, so about mid 2015 and 2016. Early 2010s, specifically sometime in 2011 through early 2013 already leaned towards the mid-2010s politically speaking, but not there yet. Yeah I mostly agree. Early 10s were almost there, most of the Mid 2010s were officially left-liberal, but became entirely 100 percent that way around 2014 to most of 2015 ( right after gay marriage was legalized is when it came full circle), and created a new zeitgeist that is still with us today. The late 10s were almost exactly the same, as the mid 2010s liberal zeitgeist was still leading the way, desipte a right wing populist president and center-right beliefs on certain subjects that became apart or segment of the mainstream but did not become the mainstream or mostly/largely the mainstream like in the 50s, 80s and the most of the 2000s. Trump did encourage and do a lot of bad and regressive things but he also had some liberal views and a different approach compared to neo-cons like bush. Regardless of temp airport bans, glorification of building a wall, violent protests, alt right groups, to some extent anti-vaxxers, and some mainstream tolerance of bigoted opinions on immigration, trans people and racism, transgender and feminist blacklash and alt-right talking points becoming acceptable for a period of time, however the left leaning liberal forward thinking direction stablished in the mid 2010s was still the winning party across the most common opinion (discounting bible belt area or states that have always been conservative) and popular culture all the way throught across mid to late 2016 to 2022. Also late 2010s around 16-17 did also bring some amount of far left add ons in the already liberal pre-existing culture, which weren't in full swing in the mid 2010s like the BLM influence, anti cop culture, anti-fa getting popular and #Meetoo getting super mainstream, increased transgender/LGBT education in schools, the abilities to for children to determine their gender becoming more normalized, more extreme feminist talking points, variety of gender pronouns becoming daily discussions and normalized, normalization of non-binary or fringe trans genders in terms of identification and across apps, schools, fill out forms, work places.
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Post by astropoug on May 1, 2022 5:45:27 GMT 10
Meme culture of the late 2010s came off as far more progressive than the mid 2010s. Mid 2010s memes were focused on being edgy and offensive. 9/11 jokes, autism jokes, cringe culture, Filthy Frank, LeafyIsHere, kill yourself, etc.
Late 2010s memes on the other hand are much more positive. I think of memes like "DK says trans rights are OK!", and other such memes.
Not to mention, the late 2010s saw the rise of Breadtube which is meant as a counterreaction to anti-SJW/anti-feminist YouTubers that were everywhere in 2014-2017.
So whilst politics became more conservative in the late 2010s, internet culture if anything became more progressive (though the downside was it also saw the rise of cancel culture).
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on May 1, 2022 5:53:43 GMT 10
Meme culture of the late 2010s came off as far more progressive than the mid 2010s. Mid 2010s memes were focused on being edgy and offensive. 9/11 jokes, autism jokes, cringe culture, Filthy Frank, LeafyIsHere, kill yourself, etc. Late 2010s memes on the other hand are much more positive. I think of memes like "DK says trans rights are OK!", and other such memes. Not to mention, the late 2010s saw the rise of Breadtube which is meant as a counterreaction to anti-SJW/anti-feminist YouTubers that were everywhere in 2014-2017. So whilst politics became more conservative in the late 2010s, internet culture if anything became more progressive (though the downside was it also saw the rise of cancel culture). breadtube is terrible like that slob vaush
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Post by 10slover on May 1, 2022 8:11:51 GMT 10
Looking back now 2017 was the most conservative year of the 10s by a long margin
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