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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 8:21:43 GMT 10
The early '20s were a short era. You do still have the E early '20s vibe in the air, but you also see some hints of what the mid '20s are bringing like pop punk rising in popularity for example as well as the Russian conflict and talks of the endemic. 2023 will be the first mid 20s year, the mid 20s will start early. 2021 was the peak early 2020s year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 10:46:56 GMT 10
I disagree with this. 2022 has 0 signs of the mid 2020s. 2022 isn’t even a core 2020s year. Pop punk has been creeping in since late 2018 and 2019, only properly getting mainstream between late 2020 and early 2021. 2022 feels similar to Q2-Q4 2020 and identical to 2021. 2022 still shares similarities to Q4 2018 through Q1 2020. 2022 doesn’t feel like a transitional year.
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Post by vhsfan0101 on Feb 27, 2022 12:33:53 GMT 10
The early '20s were a short era. You do still have the E early '20s vibe in the air, but you also see some hints of what the mid '20s are bringing like pop punk rising in popularity for example as well as the Russian conflict and talks of the endemic. 2023 will be the first mid 20s year, the mid 20s will start early. 2021 was the peak early 2020s year. It would've been nice if we would've got an endemic and no Russian conflict but Pootin just had to cause a stink.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 13:31:59 GMT 10
The earliest years I see being a transition to mid 2020s culture are 2023 or 2024. Those are the earliest years I predict the start of the core 2020s. IMO 2023 will most likely still be a cultural early 2020s year overall, being strongly connected to 2021 and 2022, vaguely connected to Q2 through Q4 2020, and loosely connected to Q4 2018 through Q1 2020. 2022 or 2023 will likely be the final year of disgusting late 2010s holdovers. 2024 will likely be the first cultural mid 2020s year or at best half early 2020s and half mid 2020s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 15:23:12 GMT 10
I disagree with this. 2022 has 0 signs of the mid 2020s. 2022 isn’t even a core 2020s year. Pop punk has been creeping in since late 2018 and 2019, only properly getting mainstream between late 2020 and early 2021. 2022 feels similar to Q2-Q4 2020 and identical to 2021. 2022 still shares similarities to Q4 2018 through Q1 2020. 2022 doesn’t feel like a transitional year. You're way off man.. So what if we saw signs of pop punk in 2018? Just because we saw little signs doesn't mean that's what defined the era or the era right after it. I think pop punk will define the era of the mid 2020s. We're already seeing signs of it dominating. The early '20s was about retro pop. The mid '20s will probably be about punk. We are already seeing signs of mid 2020s culture right now.
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Post by dudewitdausername on Feb 27, 2022 15:41:38 GMT 10
I disagree with this. 2022 has 0 signs of the mid 2020s. 2022 isn’t even a core 2020s year. Pop punk has been creeping in since late 2018 and 2019, only properly getting mainstream between late 2020 and early 2021. 2022 feels similar to Q2-Q4 2020 and identical to 2021. 2022 still shares similarities to Q4 2018 through Q1 2020. 2022 doesn’t feel like a transitional year. You're way off man.. So what if we saw signs of pop punk in 2018? Just because we saw little signs doesn't mean that's what defined the era or the era right after it. I think pop punk will define the era of the mid 2020s. We're already seeing signs of it dominating. The early '20s was about retro pop. The mid '20s will probably be about punk. We are already seeing signs of mid 2020s culture right now. the new pop punk wave will probably be gone by 2024...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 16:30:03 GMT 10
I also disagree with 2021 being peak early 2020s. 2021 is still too early to be considered the quintessential early 2020s year. 2021 still had so much lingering late 2010s culture and influences. Even now, the late 2010s influences are still lingering, but maybe less so than 2020. Mid 2022 through early 2023 will likely be peak early 2020s.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 27, 2022 16:56:33 GMT 10
I also disagree with 2021 being peak early 2020s. 2021 is still too early to be considered the quintessential early 2020s year. 2021 still had so much lingering late 2010s culture and influences. Even now, the late 2010s influences are still lingering, but maybe less so than 2020. Mid 2022 through early 2023 will likely be peak early 2020s. The weird thing about this year is that it is more toned down than mid to late 2021, which was barely anything to begin with, strangely enough when it’s supposed to be the opposite, I see less people with stick out or cheesy 2020s fashion than spring to winter 2021, there are no breakthroughs in tech or gaming, the only thing is cinema is starting to pick up again, I think the new Batman move with solidify this. Pop punk will get bigger and last to the mid 2020s but has entered that sellout phase way too soon. There is something very neutral about early 2022. You could say the same about most of 2020 and to be honest to a lesser extent about the early 2020s in general until proven otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 17:41:21 GMT 10
I also disagree with 2021 being peak early 2020s. 2021 is still too early to be considered the quintessential early 2020s year. 2021 still had so much lingering late 2010s culture and influences. Even now, the late 2010s influences are still lingering, but maybe less so than 2020. Mid 2022 through early 2023 will likely be peak early 2020s. The weird thing about this year is that it is more toned down than mid to late 2021, which was barely anything to begin with, strangely enough when it’s supposed to be the opposite, I see less people with stick out or cheesy 2020s fashion than spring to winter 2021, there are no breakthroughs in tech or gaming, the only thing is cinema is starting to pick up again, I think the new Batman move with solidify this. Pop punk will get bigger and last to the mid 2020s but has entered that sellout phase way too soon. There is something very neutral about early 2022. You could say the same about most of 2020 and to be honest to a lesser extent about the early 2020s in general until proven otherwise. I’ve also noticed that toned down 2021 vibe in 2022. I’m glad to know that I’m not alone in noticing that. Something about 2022 feels off, very 50-50 or neutral like you said. Really weird to know that less people adopted cheesy 2020s fashion in 2022 compared to 2021. Tech and gaming still feel strongly connected to the late 2010s. Hopefully we’ll enter a new era of cinema later in 2022. Movies so far have been no different than the late 2010s with some exceptions like maybe Spiderman No Way Home. Pop punk has definitely entered the sellout and or cringe phase way too soon. I can still see pop punk music being around in say early 2024, but maybe not by late 2024.
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Post by slashpop on Feb 27, 2022 17:59:39 GMT 10
The weird thing about this year is that it is more toned down than mid to late 2021, which was barely anything to begin with, strangely enough when it’s supposed to be the opposite, I see less people with stick out or cheesy 2020s fashion than spring to winter 2021, there are no breakthroughs in tech or gaming, the only thing is cinema is starting to pick up again, I think the new Batman move with solidify this. Pop punk will get bigger and last to the mid 2020s but has entered that sellout phase way too soon. There is something very neutral about early 2022. You could say the same about most of 2020 and to be honest to a lesser extent about the early 2020s in general until proven otherwise. I’ve also noticed that toned down 2021 vibe in 2022. I’m glad to know that I’m not alone in noticing that. Something about 2022 feels off, very 50-50 or neutral like you said. Really weird to know that less people adopted cheesy 2020s fashion in 2022 compared to 2021. Tech and gaming still feel strongly connected to the late 2010s. Hopefully we’ll enter a new era of cinema later in 2022. Movies so far have been no different than the late 2010s with some exceptions like maybe Spiderman No Way Home. Pop punk has definitely entered the sellout and or cringe phase way too soon. I can still see pop punk music being around in say early 2024, but maybe not by late 2024. I think pop punk be around all throughout the mid 2010s, as an annoying overplayed genre you probably hear in movies and ads, remember pop punk was still around in 2007-2010, and nu metal still had some hits and ongoing popularity all the way to late 2004-2006. Movies still haven't been divorced from the 2010s but in terms of the new trend of higher quality big name movies from starting from 2019, batman could another one, we'll have to see. Yeah I don't think current fashion is working well anyways outside of it not catching on enough and being strangely less omnipresent than it was last year for a while. It feels very out of context, lots of gen zers don't even remember the late 90s and Y2K era to want to relive it, and to be honest the most essential parts of that time and culture are universally loathed or shallow, boys bands, bad fonts, shitty techno music, unplayable PS1 and N64 game that haven't aged well, cheesy screen savers, conformist and center right attitudes etc Its not all bad, alot of amazing things about that time, but if you want to embrace everything, like the 2010s did with the late 80s to core 90s, there is a lot more untouchable stuff. 2022 has a very neutral vibe, like it doesn't feel like it belongs anywhere, it doesn't feel connected to anything, much like 2020. 2021, latter half, is the only year where a few things slightly popped out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 22:04:11 GMT 10
I’ve also noticed that toned down 2021 vibe in 2022. I’m glad to know that I’m not alone in noticing that. Something about 2022 feels off, very 50-50 or neutral like you said. Really weird to know that less people adopted cheesy 2020s fashion in 2022 compared to 2021. Tech and gaming still feel strongly connected to the late 2010s. Hopefully we’ll enter a new era of cinema later in 2022. Movies so far have been no different than the late 2010s with some exceptions like maybe Spiderman No Way Home. Pop punk has definitely entered the sellout and or cringe phase way too soon. I can still see pop punk music being around in say early 2024, but maybe not by late 2024. I think pop punk be around all throughout the mid 2010s, as an annoying overplayed genre you probably hear in movies and ads, remember pop punk was still around in 2007-2010, and nu metal still had some hits and ongoing popularity all the way to late 2004-2006. Movies still haven't been divorced from the 2010s but in terms of the new trend of higher quality big name movies from starting from 2019, batman could another one, we'll have to see. Yeah I don't think current fashion is working well anyways outside of it not catching on enough and being strangely less omnipresent than it was last year for a while. It feels very out of context, lots of gen zers don't even remember the late 90s and Y2K era to want to relive it, and to be honest the most essential parts of that time and culture are universally loathed or shallow, boys bands, bad fonts, shitty techno music, unplayable PS1 and N64 game that haven't aged well, cheesy screen savers, conformist and center right attitudes etc Its not all bad, alot of amazing things about that time, but if you want to embrace everything, like the 2010s did with the late 80s to core 90s, there is a lot more untouchable stuff. 2022 has a very neutral vibe, like it doesn't feel like it belongs anywhere, it doesn't feel connected to anything, much like 2020. 2021, latter half, is the only year where a few things slightly popped out. You’re right. I still remember hearing pop punk from 2007 to 2010, even if the genre was past peak or long in the tooth by then. I may have even noticed nu-metal from late 2004 to 2006. I think the trend of higher quality big name movies started with Joker from 2019. Yes Batman has the potential to be another one of those movies. Makes sense that the current fashion isn’t working well and is out of context. I’ve noticed gen zers wanting to relive the late 1990s and Y2K era, but a lot of them don’t remember that time. I understand why the late 1990s and Y2K era maybe hated by many. The hate against those eras were huge in the mid 2000s, late 2004 to 2006. I’ve noticed that compared to maybe the early, but definitely the mid 1990s, that the late 1900s and Y2K era seem shallow and conformist with boy bands, conservative attitudes, pretty much all the reasons you stated. Mid 1990s seem more rugged, real and organic than the late 1990s and Y2K era judging by the music, movies, TV, design, aesthetic, pop culture of those eras. Late 1990s and Y2K era seem glossy, commercialized, over polished in comparison, Y2K era more so, especially the 2000-2001 season being the worst of that. However, like you said, the late 1990s and Y2K era contains a lot of amazing, underrated cultural aspects which haven’t been explored or fully embraced yet. I don’t know if mainstream culture will do that. I feel like the gen zers have barely scratched the surface of late 1990s and Y2K culture. I remember late 1980s to core 1990s nostalgia was fully embraced with the fashion, movies, music and maybe video games. I think one of the maps featured in Call of Duty Infinite Warfare which came out in 2016, was a 1980s themed space park. Yes 2022 seems standalone, doesn’t feel connected to anything just like 2020. What’s weird is that 2020 and 2022 contain nothing but 0’s and 2’s kind of like 2000 and 2002. New cultural aspects definitely popped out more in the second half of 2021. I think more people started buying PS5’s then compared to early 2021. 2022 is supposed to build on and establish the new trends from 2021, not the opposite. 2022 feels like a regression year.
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Post by 10slover on Feb 27, 2022 22:47:06 GMT 10
The early '20s were a short era. You do still have the E early '20s vibe in the air, but you also see some hints of what the mid '20s are bringing like pop punk rising in popularity for example as well as the Russian conflict and talks of the endemic. 2023 will be the first mid 20s year, the mid 20s will start early. 2021 was the peak early 2020s year. The last 3 transitional years (2013, 2016 and 2019) have all been 3 years apart from each other 2019 was 3 years ago so 2022 might be a transitional year like you said. February 2019 still felt just like 2018, most of the change happened in the second half of 2019, a similar thing might happen this year. Idk why people are writing it off so quickly and acting so condescending about it but whatever
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Post by dudewitdausername on Feb 27, 2022 23:16:40 GMT 10
I think pop punk be around all throughout the mid 2010s, as an annoying overplayed genre you probably hear in movies and ads, remember pop punk was still around in 2007-2010, and nu metal still had some hits and ongoing popularity all the way to late 2004-2006. Movies still haven't been divorced from the 2010s but in terms of the new trend of higher quality big name movies from starting from 2019, batman could another one, we'll have to see. Yeah I don't think current fashion is working well anyways outside of it not catching on enough and being strangely less omnipresent than it was last year for a while. It feels very out of context, lots of gen zers don't even remember the late 90s and Y2K era to want to relive it, and to be honest the most essential parts of that time and culture are universally loathed or shallow, boys bands, bad fonts, shitty techno music, unplayable PS1 and N64 game that haven't aged well, cheesy screen savers, conformist and center right attitudes etc Its not all bad, alot of amazing things about that time, but if you want to embrace everything, like the 2010s did with the late 80s to core 90s, there is a lot more untouchable stuff. 2022 has a very neutral vibe, like it doesn't feel like it belongs anywhere, it doesn't feel connected to anything, much like 2020. 2021, latter half, is the only year where a few things slightly popped out. You’re right. I still remember hearing pop punk from 2007 to 2010, even if the genre was past peak or long in the tooth by then. I may have even noticed nu-metal from late 2004 to 2006. I think the trend of higher quality big name movies started with Joker from 2019. Yes Batman has the potential to be another one of those movies. Makes sense that the current fashion isn’t working well and is out of context. I’ve noticed gen zers wanting to relive the late 1990s and Y2K era, but a lot of them don’t remember that time. I understand why the late 1990s and Y2K era maybe hated by many. The hate against those eras were huge in the mid 2000s, late 2004 to 2006. I’ve noticed that compared to maybe the early, but definitely the mid 1990s, that the late 1900s and Y2K era seem shallow and conformist with boy bands, conservative attitudes, pretty much all the reasons you stated. Mid 1990s seem more rugged, real and organic than the late 1990s and Y2K era judging by the music, movies, TV, design, aesthetic, pop culture of those eras. Late 1990s and Y2K era seem glossy, commercialized, over polished in comparison, Y2K era more so, especially the 2000-2001 season being the worst of that. However, like you said, the late 1990s and Y2K era contains a lot of amazing, underrated cultural aspects which haven’t been explored or fully embraced yet. I don’t know if mainstream culture will do that. I feel like the gen zers have barely scratched the surface of late 1990s and Y2K culture. I remember late 1980s to core 1990s nostalgia was fully embraced with the fashion, movies, music and maybe video games. I think one of the maps featured in Call of Duty Infinite Warfare which came out in 2016, was a 1980s themed space park. Yes 2022 seems standalone, doesn’t feel connected to anything just like 2020. What’s weird is that 2020 and 2022 contain nothing but 0’s and 2’s kind of like 2000 and 2002. New cultural aspects definitely popped out more in the second half of 2021. I think more people started buying PS5’s then compared to early 2021. 2022 is supposed to build on and establish the new trends from 2021, not the opposite. 2022 feels like a regression year. it's also only February, I'd wait until atleast June to judge 2022. Every year feels like a nothing year when there's only 2 months to compare with other year's 12 lol. I actually feel like 2022 had more going on in the first 2 months than 2021 did too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2022 23:22:37 GMT 10
You're way off man.. So what if we saw signs of pop punk in 2018? Just because we saw little signs doesn't mean that's what defined the era or the era right after it. I think pop punk will define the era of the mid 2020s. We're already seeing signs of it dominating. The early '20s was about retro pop. The mid '20s will probably be about punk. We are already seeing signs of mid 2020s culture right now. Haha pop punk has defined the early 2020s, but it won't go onto to define the mid 2020s. My point is that pop punk has been creeping in since late 2018, blew up between 2020 and 2021. Olivia Rodrigo and MGK were huge in 2021. Pop punk is already getting backlash. If anything pop punk will be gone by sometime in 2023 or 2024. We are not seeing signs of mid 2020s culture right now. We barely entered the early 2020s culturally lol. You're wrong though since it didn't blow up in neither 2020, 2021, or even 2022.. If you consider this "blowing up" then I don't know what to say..
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Post by slashpop on Feb 28, 2022 0:44:27 GMT 10
I think pop punk be around all throughout the mid 2010s, as an annoying overplayed genre you probably hear in movies and ads, remember pop punk was still around in 2007-2010, and nu metal still had some hits and ongoing popularity all the way to late 2004-2006. Movies still haven't been divorced from the 2010s but in terms of the new trend of higher quality big name movies from starting from 2019, batman could another one, we'll have to see. Yeah I don't think current fashion is working well anyways outside of it not catching on enough and being strangely less omnipresent than it was last year for a while. It feels very out of context, lots of gen zers don't even remember the late 90s and Y2K era to want to relive it, and to be honest the most essential parts of that time and culture are universally loathed or shallow, boys bands, bad fonts, shitty techno music, unplayable PS1 and N64 game that haven't aged well, cheesy screen savers, conformist and center right attitudes etc Its not all bad, alot of amazing things about that time, but if you want to embrace everything, like the 2010s did with the late 80s to core 90s, there is a lot more untouchable stuff. 2022 has a very neutral vibe, like it doesn't feel like it belongs anywhere, it doesn't feel connected to anything, much like 2020. 2021, latter half, is the only year where a few things slightly popped out. You’re right. I still remember hearing pop punk from 2007 to 2010, even if the genre was past peak or long in the tooth by then. I may have even noticed nu-metal from late 2004 to 2006. I think the trend of higher quality big name movies started with Joker from 2019. Yes Batman has the potential to be another one of those movies. Makes sense that the current fashion isn’t working well and is out of context. I’ve noticed gen zers wanting to relive the late 1990s and Y2K era, but a lot of them don’t remember that time. I understand why the late 1990s and Y2K era maybe hated by many. The hate against those eras were huge in the mid 2000s, late 2004 to 2006. I’ve noticed that compared to maybe the early, but definitely the mid 1990s, that the late 1900s and Y2K era seem shallow and conformist with boy bands, conservative attitudes, pretty much all the reasons you stated. Mid 1990s seem more rugged, real and organic than the late 1990s and Y2K era judging by the music, movies, TV, design, aesthetic, pop culture of those eras. Late 1990s and Y2K era seem glossy, commercialized, over polished in comparison, Y2K era more so, especially the 2000-2001 season being the worst of that. However, like you said, the late 1990s and Y2K era contains a lot of amazing, underrated cultural aspects which haven’t been explored or fully embraced yet. I don’t know if mainstream culture will do that. I feel like the gen zers have barely scratched the surface of late 1990s and Y2K culture. I remember late 1980s to core 1990s nostalgia was fully embraced with the fashion, movies, music and maybe video games. I think one of the maps featured in Call of Duty Infinite Warfare which came out in 2016, was a 1980s themed space park. Yes 2022 seems standalone, doesn’t feel connected to anything just like 2020. What’s weird is that 2020 and 2022 contain nothing but 0’s and 2’s kind of like 2000 and 2002. New cultural aspects definitely popped out more in the second half of 2021. I think more people started buying PS5’s then compared to early 2021. 2022 is supposed to build on and establish the new trends from 2021, not the opposite. 2022 feels like a regression year. I hate to say this but I feel like we are going to seriously nostalgic for the 2010s, in two years, if 2023-2026 starts full on romanticizing boybands, bubblegum pop, preppy clothing and spiky hair, cheesy techno and trance music, early CGI, cheap dollar store looking bubbly and see through gadgets, shiny suit and early bling rap, N64 as the ultimate old school gaming machine instead of super nes/nes, politically incorrect lockeroom humor going fully mainstream as a part 2 to the edgy online alt right humor of 16-19 etc. Then again these things can be ignored or good can overshadow them, so its hard to know, you can only wish for the best.
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