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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2022 10:47:04 GMT 10
2004 was probably the least transitional year of the 2000s. I’d say that honor belongs to 2000 (which still felt like 1999), or 2003 (which wasn’t really different from 2001-2002). 2004 was hella changeful in my opinion. 03 and 04 both were, with many of the 04 changes happening of that summer
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 13:30:15 GMT 10
2004 was probably the least transitional year of the 2000s. I’d say that honor belongs to 2000 (which still felt like 1999), or 2003 (which wasn’t really different from 2001-2002). 2004 was hella changeful in my opinion. 2003 was very transitional.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2022 13:53:06 GMT 10
I’d say that honor belongs to 2000 (which still felt like 1999), or 2003 (which wasn’t really different from 2001-2002). 2004 was hella changeful in my opinion. 2003 was very transitional. Yupp, Fall 03 especially, 03 in general gave us things like 50 Cent, Paris Hilton, Punk'D, that old english font that was everywhere, 03 was the first full year where texting was seen as mainstream as well as the Invasion of Iraq. Oh and Vh1 rebranded to the 80s Celebreality logo version at the time.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 4, 2022 9:11:46 GMT 10
2014 was a splitting year too, since that was the year Gamergate happened, and Call of Duty and MLP declined in popularity. I'd say 2005 really splits the 2000s, since 2004 to me still feels culturally like it belongs with 2001-2003. 2005 is when MySpace blew up in popularity and YouTube launched. It was also the year emo went mainstream and shows live Avatar: The Last Airbender and Naruto came out. As for the 90s, the way I see it, 1990 is an 80s year, 1991 is half-and-half, and 1992-1995 culturally represents the first half of the 90s. The second half of the 90s started emerging in 1996 with the rise of 3D video games, decline of grunge, rise of cheesy pop, and rise of millennial culture in general, and 1997 is when we firmly entered it. myspace blew up Q4 of 2004, Emo went mainstream in Q4 as well You also had signs of it getting big earlier 2004 thusly I would say is the start of the emo era, but it was solidified the following year. You still had songs from Linkin Park and Evanescence on the radio, but nu metal was definitely long in the tooth by this point. And bands like Limp Bizkit (seen as the quintessential nu metal band by some) became a laughing stock. In terms of rock music, I definitely consider 2004 the start of the mid 2000s, whilst 2001-2003 is the early 2000s.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 4, 2022 9:56:11 GMT 10
myspace blew up Q4 of 2004, Emo went mainstream in Q4 as well You also had signs of it getting big earlier 2004 thusly I would say is the start of the emo era, but it was solidified the following year. You still had songs from Linkin Park and Evanescence on the radio, but nu metal was definitely long in the tooth by this point. And bands like Limp Bizkit (seen as the quintessential nu metal band by some) became a laughing stock. In terms of rock music, I definitely consider 2004 the start of the mid 2000s, whilst 2001-2003 is the early 2000s. I would say it was solidified in late 2004, you already artists like Ashlee Simpson dressing emo and think pieces were already coming out about it as early as October 2004. MCR and TheUsed was constantly being played on MTV at this time as well.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 4, 2022 10:56:57 GMT 10
You also had signs of it getting big earlier 2004 thusly I would say is the start of the emo era, but it was solidified the following year. You still had songs from Linkin Park and Evanescence on the radio, but nu metal was definitely long in the tooth by this point. And bands like Limp Bizkit (seen as the quintessential nu metal band by some) became a laughing stock. In terms of rock music, I definitely consider 2004 the start of the mid 2000s, whilst 2001-2003 is the early 2000s. I would say it was solidified in late 2004, you already artists like Ashlee Simpson dressing emo and think pieces were already coming out about it as early as October 2004. MCR and TheUsed was constantly being played on MTV at this time as well. I'm talking about the whole year not just a part. Emo was still relatively new in 2004, even though it was already big by then. You also had Burnout 3 released in late 2004, which had lots of emo songs (My Chemical Romance, Funeral for a Friend, Yellowcard).
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Post by John Titor on Apr 4, 2022 11:18:45 GMT 10
I would say it was solidified in late 2004, you already artists like Ashlee Simpson dressing emo and think pieces were already coming out about it as early as October 2004. MCR and TheUsed was constantly being played on MTV at this time as well. I'm talking about the whole year not just a part. Emo was still relatively new in 2004, even though it was already big by then. You also had Burnout 3 released in late 2004, which had lots of emo songs (My Chemical Romance, Funeral for a Friend, Yellowcard). I know but I was confused because you said it went mainstream in 2005 despite it being everywhere in late 2004 (music videos, think piecies, IRL ) etc
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Post by astropoug on Apr 4, 2022 11:34:31 GMT 10
I'm talking about the whole year not just a part. Emo was still relatively new in 2004, even though it was already big by then. You also had Burnout 3 released in late 2004, which had lots of emo songs (My Chemical Romance, Funeral for a Friend, Yellowcard). I know but I was confused because you said it went mainstream in 2005 despite it being everywhere in late 2004 (music videos, think piecies, IRL ) etc When did I say that? I literally mentioned how emo was growing throughout 2004, but became huge by the end of the year. By 2005, it was cemented in the public consciousness. And to be fair, you could say emo was emerging throughout 2001-2003, even if it wasn't big yet, since you had bands like The Used, Jimmy Eat World, and Taking Back Sunday emerging during that time.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 4, 2022 11:46:41 GMT 10
I know but I was confused because you said it went mainstream in 2005 despite it being everywhere in late 2004 (music videos, think piecies, IRL ) etc When did I say that? I literally mentioned how emo was growing throughout 2004, but became huge by the end of the year. By 2005, it was cemented in the public consciousness. And to be fair, you could say emo was emerging throughout 2001-2003, even if it wasn't big yet, since you had bands like The Used, Jimmy Eat World, and Taking Back Sunday emerging during that time. " I'd say 2005 really splits the 2000s, since 2004 to me still feels culturally like it belongs with 2001-2003. 2005 is when MySpace blew up in popularity and YouTube launched. It was also the year emo went mainstream and shows live Avatar: The Last Airbender and Naruto came out." I was confused by the statement because emo was already in the public consciousness way before 2005 even started, emo was mainstream in late 04, it's rise was sudden and super fast. It took over ( even if there were things happening in 02-03 that made it possible)
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Post by astropoug on Apr 4, 2022 11:54:15 GMT 10
When did I say that? I literally mentioned how emo was growing throughout 2004, but became huge by the end of the year. By 2005, it was cemented in the public consciousness. And to be fair, you could say emo was emerging throughout 2001-2003, even if it wasn't big yet, since you had bands like The Used, Jimmy Eat World, and Taking Back Sunday emerging during that time. " I'd say 2005 really splits the 2000s, since 2004 to me still feels culturally like it belongs with 2001-2003. 2005 is when MySpace blew up in popularity and YouTube launched. It was also the year emo went mainstream and shows live Avatar: The Last Airbender and Naruto came out." I was confused by the statement because emo was already in the public consciousness way before 2005 even started, emo was mainstream in late 04, it's rise was sudden and super fast. It took over ( even if there were things happening in 02-03 that made it possible) That's my bad. I still think 2005 is a splitting year, but so is 2004. Though come to think of it, 2004-2006 all felt like splitting years in one way or another. With 2004 still mostly belonging to the first half of the 2000s culturally, whilst also having elements of the second half already. 2006 is in the second half, but still has elements of the first half of the 2000s, and 2005 is pretty evenly split between both. IMO I'd say 2003 is the quintessential year of the first half of the 2000s, whilst 2008 is the quintessential year of the second half of the 2000s.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 4, 2022 11:56:28 GMT 10
" I'd say 2005 really splits the 2000s, since 2004 to me still feels culturally like it belongs with 2001-2003. 2005 is when MySpace blew up in popularity and YouTube launched. It was also the year emo went mainstream and shows live Avatar: The Last Airbender and Naruto came out." I was confused by the statement because emo was already in the public consciousness way before 2005 even started, emo was mainstream in late 04, it's rise was sudden and super fast. It took over ( even if there were things happening in 02-03 that made it possible) That's my bad. I still think 2005 is a splitting year, but so is 2004. Though come to think of it, 2004-2006 all felt like splitting years in one way or another. With 2004 still mostly belonging to the first half of the 2000s culturally, whilst also having elements of the second half already. 2006 is in the second half, but still has elements of the first half of the 2000s, and 2005 is pretty evenly split between both. IMO I'd say 2003 is the quintessential year of the first half of the 2000s, whilst 2008 is the quintessential year of the second half of the 2000s. lets make that 02-03 school year lol
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Post by astropoug on Apr 4, 2022 12:02:10 GMT 10
That's my bad. I still think 2005 is a splitting year, but so is 2004. Though come to think of it, 2004-2006 all felt like splitting years in one way or another. With 2004 still mostly belonging to the first half of the 2000s culturally, whilst also having elements of the second half already. 2006 is in the second half, but still has elements of the first half of the 2000s, and 2005 is pretty evenly split between both. IMO I'd say 2003 is the quintessential year of the first half of the 2000s, whilst 2008 is the quintessential year of the second half of the 2000s. lets make that 02-03 school year lol You could honestly make a case for either 2002 or 2003. Both years in my opinion are quite similar. But I went with 2003 because that was the year Windows XP became the most popular operating system, and also because of Linkin Park's Meteora. And everybody watched SpongeBob, and video games were still lighthearted and colorful like Simpsons: Hit and Run and Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando.
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