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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 29, 2022 7:09:37 GMT 10
Which years do you think gaming consoles were the most popular
PS1/N64: 1998
PS2/GCN/Xbox: 2004
PS3: 2012
Xbox 360: 2009
Wii: 2008
DS: 2009
3DS: 2013
Wii U: 2014(if you could even consider that console having a peak)
PS4: 2018
Xbox One: 2014
Switch: 2020
PS5: TBD but I predict 2025
Xbox Series X: TBD
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Post by John Titor on Mar 29, 2022 7:44:18 GMT 10
Super easy one
NES - 1989 Sega Genesis - 1993 Sega Game Gear - 1993 Super Nintendo - 1995 Nintendo 64 - 1997 PlayStation - 1998 Sega Saturn - 1995 GameBoy - 1995 Gameboy Color - 1998 Sega Dreamcast - 2000 Game Boy Advance - 2003 PlayStation 2 - 2004 Xbox - 2004 Nintendo Gamecube - 2005 PSP - 2006 Nintendo DS - 2009 Nintendo Wii - Summer 2008
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Post by astropoug on Mar 29, 2022 9:41:05 GMT 10
This is gonna sound odd for the PS3, but I'm not kidding when I give this answer: 2013. Why? Two games: GTA V, and The Last of Us. GTA V initially only came out on 7th-gen consoles, namely the PS3 and Xbox 360. If you look up best-selling PS3 games, GTA V is at the top. Then The Last of Us came out and was praised for, well, everything: the story, the graphics, the emotionality. Not only that, but it was also the year the PS3 accomplished something that, when it first came out, nobody thought was ever gonna happen: it outsold the Xbox 360. That's right, not only had the PS3 accomplished its goal of becoming an actual successful console people wanted to buy, but it also accomplished its goal of defeating its competition. Combine this with Microsoft and Nintendo's simultaneous floundering during this time, in combination with the glowing praise given to the PS4's launch, this was a really good year to be Sony.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 29, 2022 9:43:02 GMT 10
As for the other consoles, I feel either 2017 or 2018 could work for the PS4. 2018 was the year God of War and the Spider-Man game came out, whilst 2017 was when Horizon: Zero Dawn and Detroit: Become Human came out. Xbox 360: 2010. Indisputably. Halo: Reach, Call of Duty Black Ops were big games. You also had the release of the Xbox 360 S revision and the Kinect. Whilst many disliked the Kinect, it was still popular anyway, and the Xbox 360 S was more reliable than the original Xbox 360 model
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Post by astropoug on Mar 29, 2022 9:51:55 GMT 10
Yeah, you're pretty much spot on. I mean, they literally use a Nintendo controller to control the Statue of Liberty in Ghostbusters II. There was also The Wizard and cartoons like The Super Mario Bros Super Show, Captain N, and The Legend of Zelda. In my opinion either 1989 or 1990 (the year Super Mario Bros 3, often considered the best NES game, came out) would be good answers.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 29, 2022 10:22:47 GMT 10
This is gonna sound odd for the PS3, but I'm not kidding when I give this answer: 2013. Why? Two games: GTA V, and The Last of Us. GTA V initially only came out on 7th-gen consoles, namely the PS3 and Xbox 360. If you look up best-selling PS3 games, GTA V is at the top. Then The Last of Us came out and was praised for, well, everything: the story, the graphics, the emotionality. Not only that, but it was also the year the PS3 accomplished something that, when it first came out, nobody thought was ever gonna happen: it outsold the Xbox 360. That's right, not only had the PS3 accomplished its goal of becoming an actual successful console people wanted to buy, but it also accomplished its goal of defeating its competition. Combine this with Microsoft and Nintendo's simultaneous floundering during this time, in combination with the glowing praise given to the PS4's launch, this was a really good year to be Sony. Doesn't sound odd to me. 2011-2013 was when the PS3 rivaled the 360 in popularity and in 2013 it managed to surpass 360 sales.
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 29, 2022 10:25:03 GMT 10
As for the other consoles, I feel either 2017 or 2018 could work for the PS4. 2018 was the year God of War and the Spider-Man game came out, whilst 2017 was when Horizon: Zero Dawn and Detroit: Become Human came out. Xbox 360: 2010. Indisputably. Halo: Reach, Call of Duty Black Ops were big games. You also had the release of the Xbox 360 S revision and the Kinect. Whilst many disliked the Kinect, it was still popular anyway, and the Xbox 360 S was more reliable than the original Xbox 360 model 2017-2019 could work but I chose 2018 because of those games you mentioned. Not a big fan of them myself but they are among the most popular PS4 exclusives. Spiderman is probably the most popular PS exclusive from that generation. You make a good point with kinect but 2010 was the first full year of the PS3 rebrand era when it was regaining steam so i'm not so sure. PS3 was basically on life support in the late 2000s on the other hand so everyone gamed on the 360 instead.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 29, 2022 12:50:13 GMT 10
Yeah, you're pretty much spot on. I mean, they literally use a Nintendo controller to control the Statue of Liberty in Ghostbusters II. There was also The Wizard and cartoons like The Super Mario Bros Super Show, Captain N, and The Legend of Zelda. In my opinion either 1989 or 1990 (the year Super Mario Bros 3, often considered the best NES game, came out) would be good answers. yeah def, 1990 is SMB 3 ( another amazing game) while 1989 had the heavy NES hitters, I will post them below, literally the apex of nes ! The legendary Mega Man 2 and Sega games were on NES ( yes you read that right) Sega made games for NES before the Genesis came out, it was under a different publisher
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Post by slashpop on Mar 30, 2022 17:33:18 GMT 10
Yeah, you're pretty much spot on. I mean, they literally use a Nintendo controller to control the Statue of Liberty in Ghostbusters II. There was also The Wizard and cartoons like The Super Mario Bros Super Show, Captain N, and The Legend of Zelda. In my opinion either 1989 or 1990 (the year Super Mario Bros 3, often considered the best NES game, came out) would be good answers. yeah def, 1990 is SMB 3 ( another amazing game) while 1989 had the heavy NES hitters, I will post them below, literally the apex of nes ! The legendary Mega Man 2 and Sega games were on NES ( yes you read that right) Sega made games for NES before the Genesis came out, it was under a different publisherThose were definitely classic games in 1989. It took me until 2003 to truly beat ninja turtles without cheats, when I got in the early 90s is was the biggest disappointment ever and it was borderline impossible for so many kids, I didn't have the game genie yet, it was still popular. Ducktales was awesome, I think I got when it first came out. Ninja Gaiden was hard as hell, I only rented it. Couldn't get past stage 3. I bought it and beat it in the 2000s. Mega 2 and 3 were perfect, Ninja Turles 2, Castlevania 1 and 3 were perfect, Crystalis was the best RPG on the nes imo, Punch out and ghosts n goblins took years, to finish but were doable, Mario 3 was the best mario. It was def a cool concept that there were sega games on the nes which the sega never did. But tbh lots of tengen games were mostly difficult or not as good as the other versions, I guess there some exceptions i. I had afterburner and alien syndrome which were sega ports, I returned afterburner to toys r us and traded the other with a friend. I wish genesis made nes ports in 16 bit, it would have been cool as hell to see Super Mario Bros 3 in 16 bit.
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Post by slashpop on Mar 30, 2022 18:03:30 GMT 10
Retro gaming consoles most popular:
General popularity after release and peak year:
Pong Consoles: 1973-1977 : 1975 Atari 2600: 1978-1983 : 1981 Commodore 64: 1984-1988: 1986 & 1987 Amiga 500: 1987-1993: 1989 Nes: 1987-1991: 1989 (1990 to some extent) Turbografx 16: 1989-1993: 1990-1991 Original Gameboy: 1989-1999 (last og gameboy games): 1990 & 1999 Genesis and add ons: 1990-1994: 1993 & 1994 Game Gear: 1991-1995: 1993 PC DOS: 1986 (not much prior)-1996: 1992-1994 Neo Geo: 1991-1995: Mid 90s Snes: 1992-1996: 1994 (93 to some extent then 95) 3DO: 1993-1996: 1995 (very short lived but had some popularity wasn't as hated as the internet says) Sega Saturn: 1995-1998: 1996 PS1: 1996-2000: 1997-1999 Nintendo 64: 1996-2001: 1998 (99 and 97 to some extent) Dreamcast: 1999-2001: 2000
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Post by astropoug on Mar 31, 2022 4:23:16 GMT 10
Retro gaming consoles most popular: General popularity after release and peak year: Pong Consoles: 1973-1977 : 1975 Atari 2600: 1978-1983 : 1981 Commodore 64: 1984-1988: 1986 & 1987 Amiga 500: 1987-1993: 1989 Nes: 1987-1991: 1989 (1990 to some extent) Turbografx 16: 1989-1993: 1990-1991 Original Gameboy: 1989-1999 (last og gameboy games): 1990 & 1999 Genesis and add ons: 1990-1994: 1993 & 1994 Game Gear: 1991-1995: 1993 PC DOS: 1986 (not much prior)-1996: 1992-1994 Neo Geo: 1991-1995: Mid 90s Snes: 1992-1996: 1994 (93 to some extent then 95) 3DO: 1993-1996: 1995 (very short lived but had some popularity wasn't as hated as the internet says) Sega Saturn: 1995-1998: 1996 PS1: 1996-2000: 1997-1999 Nintendo 64: 1996-2001: 1998 (99 and 97 to some extent) Dreamcast: 1999-2001: 2000 I agree with most of these. I would say for Atari 2600 however that 1982 was really the peak. It was absolutely everywhere that year, games like Pitfall came out, as did the Pac-Man port, both of which are among the best-selling games for the system. Of course, you did have ET come out, but that was at the very end of the year. By 1983, as we know, the video game industry crashed, and Atari was in trouble. By 1984, they went bankrupt. The Atari brand and even the 2600 didn't go away however, in fact, the 2600 still continued to be sold in stores throughout the 80s, and was widely played amongst by those who didn't have an NES yet. James Rolfe of the AVGN didn't get an NES until 1988 for example. SNES, I agree with John Titor and would go for 1995, since that's when Nintendo definitively won the console war, whereas in 1994, they were still battling with Sega. You could argue 1994 was a better year for games (one of the best years for video games in my opinion), but 1995 in my opinion is just as strong with the likes of Donkey Kong Country 2 (considered by many the best of the trilogy), Earthbound, Yoshi's Island, and Chrono Trigger. 1993 for Genesis makes sense. That was the year Mortal Kombat was released on both systems. The SNES port sucked and was censored. This certainly helped Sega. Not to mention Sonic at the height of their popularity (alongside late 1992 and 1994). As for DOS gaming, I mean, it took a while for Windows gaming to truly catch on. In 1996, Duke Nukem 3D and Quake were the biggest PC games of that year, and both were made for the DOS platform. By 1997, you did start to see a shift, but even then, DOS games were still big and some were still being released (the first GTA comes to mind). 1998, DOS gaming I would say was pretty much dead. But as for when it peaked, I would say DOS gaming gradually overtook the Amiga as the dominant platform for PC gaming during the early 90s. By the time Wolfenstein 3D was released (1992), it was official. I'd definitely say the peak would've been 1994, since Doom did come out in '93, but late in the year, and so it was big in 1994. The PS1, and really the 5th gen in general peaked in 1998, without a doubt. That was the year so many good games came out (hence why it's considered the greatest year in gaming by journalists), like Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, Tekken 3, Resident Evil 2, Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped, Spyro the Dragon. 1997 was of course also important with the release of Final Fantasy VII (and titles like PaRappa the Rapper certainly help), as was 1999 (with Crash Team Racing, Ape Escape, Dino Crisis, Syphon Filter, and Silent Hill), but NOTHING comes close to 1998 in terms of the sheer amount of quality titles released. The system was still popular in 2000, with lots of quality titles being released, but you could the system was winding down. Many of these titles were sequels to preexisting PlayStation games, like Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon, Final Fantasy IX, Dino Crisis 2, and Syphon Filter 2. These are all great titles, in fact, some of them, like Year of the Dragon and Dino Crisis 2, are my favorite titles in their franchises, but you can tell the PS1 was getting burnt out. You did have Chrono Cross and Vagrant Story being released, so these titles, in addition to FFIX made 2000 a strong year for RPG fans, but this was really the last year the PS1 was truly big and releasing new high-quality titles. By 2001, most third-party companies focused their efforts on the next generation of consoles (especially the PS2), as well as Sony themselves shifting all their focus on the PS2, which was exploding in popularity. The PS1 was still being played a lot, but as far as NEW titles were concerned, most of these quickly turned to shovelware. As for the rest of these on here, well, either I know nothing about the system, or I think you're pretty much spot-on with.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 31, 2022 5:21:30 GMT 10
Retro gaming consoles most popular: General popularity after release and peak year: Pong Consoles: 1973-1977 : 1975 Atari 2600: 1978-1983 : 1981 Commodore 64: 1984-1988: 1986 & 1987 Amiga 500: 1987-1993: 1989 Nes: 1987-1991: 1989 (1990 to some extent) Turbografx 16: 1989-1993: 1990-1991 Original Gameboy: 1989-1999 (last og gameboy games): 1990 & 1999 Genesis and add ons: 1990-1994: 1993 & 1994 Game Gear: 1991-1995: 1993 PC DOS: 1986 (not much prior)-1996: 1992-1994 Neo Geo: 1991-1995: Mid 90s Snes: 1992-1996: 1994 (93 to some extent then 95) 3DO: 1993-1996: 1995 (very short lived but had some popularity wasn't as hated as the internet says) Sega Saturn: 1995-1998: 1996 PS1: 1996-2000: 1997-1999 Nintendo 64: 1996-2001: 1998 (99 and 97 to some extent) Dreamcast: 1999-2001: 2000 I agree with most of these. I would say for Atari 2600 however that 1982 was really the peak. It was absolutely everywhere that year, games like Pitfall came out, as did the Pac-Man port, both of which are among the best-selling games for the system. Of course, you did have ET come out, but that was at the very end of the year. By 1983, as we know, the video game industry crashed, and Atari was in trouble. By 1984, they went bankrupt. The Atari brand and even the 2600 didn't go away however, in fact, the 2600 still continued to be sold in stores throughout the 80s, and was widely played amongst by those who didn't have an NES yet. James Rolfe of the AVGN didn't get an NES until 1988 for example. SNES, I agree with John Titor and would go for 1995, since that's when Nintendo definitively won the console war, whereas in 1994, they were still battling with Sega. You could argue 1994 was a better year for games (one of the best years for video games in my opinion), but 1995 in my opinion is just as strong with the likes of Donkey Kong Country 2 (considered by many the best of the trilogy), Earthbound, Yoshi's Island, and Chrono Trigger. 1993 for Genesis makes sense. That was the year Mortal Kombat was released on both systems. The SNES port sucked and was censored. This certainly helped Sega. Not to mention Sonic at the height of their popularity (alongside late 1992 and 1994). As for DOS gaming, I mean, it took a while for Windows gaming to truly catch on. In 1996, Duke Nukem 3D and Quake were the biggest PC games of that year, and both were made for the DOS platform. By 1997, you did start to see a shift, but even then, DOS games were still big and some were still being released (the first GTA comes to mind). 1998, DOS gaming I would say was pretty much dead. But as for when it peaked, I would say DOS gaming gradually overtook the Amiga as the dominant platform for PC gaming during the early 90s. By the time Wolfenstein 3D was released (1992), it was official. I'd definitely say the peak would've been 1994, since Doom did come out in '93, but late in the year, and so it was big in 1994. The PS1, and really the 5th gen in general peaked in 1998, without a doubt. That was the year so many good games came out (hence why it's considered the greatest year in gaming by journalists), like Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, Tekken 3, Resident Evil 2, Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped, Spyro the Dragon. 1997 was of course also important with the release of Final Fantasy VII (and titles like PaRappa the Rapper certainly help), as was 1999 (with Crash Team Racing, Ape Escape, Dino Crisis, Syphon Filter, and Silent Hill), but NOTHING comes close to 1998 in terms of the sheer amount of quality titles released. The system was still popular in 2000, with lots of quality titles being released, but you could the system was winding down. Many of these titles were sequels to preexisting PlayStation games, like Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon, Final Fantasy IX, Dino Crisis 2, and Syphon Filter 2. These are all great titles, in fact, some of them, like Year of the Dragon and Dino Crisis 2, are my favorite titles in their franchises, but you can tell the PS1 was getting burnt out. You did have Chrono Cross and Vagrant Story being released, so these titles, in addition to FFIX made 2000 a strong year for RPG fans, but this was really the last year the PS1 was truly big and releasing new high-quality titles. By 2001, most third-party companies focused their efforts on the next generation of consoles (especially the PS2), as well as Sony themselves shifting all their focus on the PS2, which was exploding in popularity. The PS1 was still being played a lot, but as far as NEW titles were concerned, most of these quickly turned to shovelware. As for the rest of these on here, well, either I know nothing about the system, or I think you're pretty much spot-on with. PlayStation 1 owners like myself ( who has not been able to find a PS2 yet) were able to stay busy with games released in the 00-01 school year, however as you said ish was winding down and you could tell Sony was not putting the focus on it anymore. Games like Tony Hawk 2, Smackdown 2 being one of the more noteable games of that school year.
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Post by astropoug on Mar 31, 2022 11:34:46 GMT 10
General popularity after release and peak year: Pong Consoles: 1973-1977 : 1975 Atari 2600: 1978-1983 : 1981 Commodore 64: 1984-1988: 1986 & 1987 Amiga 500: 1987-1993: 1989 Nes: 1987-1991: 1989 (1990 to some extent) Turbografx 16: 1989-1993: 1990-1991 Original Gameboy: 1989-1999 (last og gameboy games): 1990 & 1999 Genesis and add ons: 1990-1994: 1993 & 1994 Game Gear: 1991-1995: 1993 PC DOS: 1986 (not much prior)-1996: 1992-1994 Neo Geo: 1991-1995: Mid 90s Snes: 1992-1996: 1994 (93 to some extent then 95) 3DO: 1993-1996: 1995 (very short lived but had some popularity wasn't as hated as the internet says) Sega Saturn: 1995-1998: 1996 PS1: 1996-2000: 1997-1999 Nintendo 64: 1996-2001: 1998 (99 and 97 to some extent) Dreamcast: 1999-2001: 2000 I'll extend this with the general popularity of newer consoles, and when they peaked IMO PS2: 2001-2007 (2004) Xbox: 2001-2006 (2004) GameCube: 2001-2005 (2003) Wii: 2006-2010 (2008) PS3: 2009-2013 (2012) Xbox 360: 2006-2012 (2010) DS: 2005-2011 (2007) PSP: 2005-2008 (2006) 3DS: 2011-2016 (2014) Wii U: 2013-2016 (2014) PS4: 2014-2020 (2018) Xbox One: 2014-2019 (2015)
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Post by astropoug on Mar 31, 2022 11:37:56 GMT 10
I actually initially went with 2011 for the peak of the PS3, but then I remembered this: link
Kinda difficult to be considered the peak when your services literally go down for almost a month
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Post by nightmarefarm on Mar 31, 2022 13:16:19 GMT 10
I actually initially went with 2011 for the peak of the PS3, but then I remembered this: link
Kinda difficult to be considered the peak when your services literally go down for almost a month Whenever it was, it was definitely in the early 10s.
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