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Post by y2kbaby on Apr 21, 2022 3:55:24 GMT 10
Released in 2005 but looks very 2002/2003 ish. The movie fits more at home with the other early 2000s flicks than the core 2000s movies.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 21, 2022 4:47:22 GMT 10
Released in 2005 but looks very 2002/2003 ish. The movie fits more at home with the other early 2000s flicks than the core 2000s movies. It's also way too lighthearted for 2005. 2005 was all about everything being dark, whether from an aesthetic or thematical perspective. That, plus the poor CGI. It just doesn't fit along the likes of Revenge of the Sith, Batman Begins, and King Kong.
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Post by astropoug on Apr 21, 2022 4:50:10 GMT 10
I just don't think those particular sort of live-action family films were ever really that popular in general during the mid-late 2000s the same way they were in the early 2000s.
I'm not saying mid 2000s movies can't be funny, I'm just saying if they are, it'll be something either adult and raunchy like The 40-Year Old Virgin, or something animated and pop culture reference filled like Madagascar.
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Post by John Titor on Apr 21, 2022 7:27:04 GMT 10
Released in 2005 but looks very 2002/2003 ish. The movie fits more at home with the other early 2000s flicks than the core 2000s movies. It's also way too lighthearted for 2005. 2005 was all about everything being dark, whether from an aesthetic or thematical perspective. That, plus the poor CGI. It just doesn't fit along the likes of Revenge of the Sith, Batman Begins, and King Kong. it's quite possible this was filmed in 03/04
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Post by Telso on May 9, 2022 9:00:21 GMT 10
Brother Bear - This movie doesn't even attempt to try to be modern-feeling, instead, it just tries to be like The Lion King mixed with Tarzan. The animation literally looks worse and older than earlier Disney movies like Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Empire, which actually do feel early 2000s. This movie should've come out in the 90s, preferably the core 90s. I have to disagree with this. Stylistically and plot-wise, it's really not all that different from Home on the Range or Chicken Little or other movies of its era. It's mostly a very lighthearted romp with not much plot and only vague dark undercurrents. In fact it's pretty much the same plot as The Emperor New Groove: a man from pre-Columbian America becomes an animal and tries to go back to old self again. And the animation screams early 2000s, clean computer-animated flats with extremely satured colors. Core 90s Disney movies were all big dramatic musicals with focus on cinematic effects and sweeping plots, think Hunch Back or Pocahontas. Brother Bear feels more like a product of its time than anything.
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Post by astropoug on May 9, 2022 14:48:07 GMT 10
Brother Bear - This movie doesn't even attempt to try to be modern-feeling, instead, it just tries to be like The Lion King mixed with Tarzan. The animation literally looks worse and older than earlier Disney movies like Treasure Planet and Atlantis: The Lost Empire, which actually do feel early 2000s. This movie should've come out in the 90s, preferably the core 90s. I have to disagree with this. Stylistically and plot-wise, it's really not all that different from Home on the Range or Chicken Little or other movies of its era. It's mostly a very lighthearted romp with not much plot and only vague dark undercurrents. In fact it's pretty much the same plot as The Emperor New Groove: a man from pre-Columbian America becomes an animal and tries to go back to old self again. And the animation screams early 2000s, clean computer-animated flats with extremely satured colors. Core 90s Disney movies were all big dramatic musicals with focus on cinematic effects and sweeping plots, think Hunch Back or Pocahontas. Brother Bear feels more like a product of its time than anything. Brother Bear and Home on the Range definitely have a lot in common. They're both pretty bland 2D animated movies that came out at a time when animated movies were mostly 3D (and thusly got overshadowed by more modern and better movies like Finding Nemo and The Incredibles). I think Chicken Little is quite different. Chicken Little to me is the most 2000s-feeling Disney animated movie (unless you count the even more 2000s feeling The Wild). It's in CGI, stars talking animal characters, filled with pop culture references, has contemporary popular music, and got poor reviews from critics (despite decent box office performance). Many said the movie was trying to ape Dreamworks. I get what you're saying though. The movie just isn't on par with the 90s Disney movies. It's a very childish feeling movie, whereas most 90s Disney movies had a broader appeal, especially due to their darker themes, music numbers, and high stake plots. Prime example would be Disney's most successful Disney Renaissance film, The Lion King. It's filled with iconic musical numbers, has a menacing, evil villain, high stakes, dark themes, and a generally grand scope. Brother Bear just doesn't compare, and the worst part is that Disney WANTED it to be like The Lion King, but whilst it did well at the box office, it got poor reviews from critics.
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Post by Telso on May 9, 2022 19:22:56 GMT 10
The movie just isn't on par with the 90s Disney movies. It's a very childish feeling movie, whereas most 90s Disney movies had a broader appeal, especially due to their darker themes, music numbers, and high stake plots. Prime example would be Disney's most successful Disney Renaissance film, The Lion King. It's filled with iconic musical numbers, has a menacing, evil villain, high stakes, dark themes, and a generally grand scope. Brother Bear just doesn't compare, and the worst part is that Disney WANTED it to be like The Lion King, but whilst it did well at the box office, it got poor reviews from critics. I don't think it was necessarily a bad change tbh. 90s Disney while having some great movies back-to-back were also incredibly formulaic. Almost every movie during that decade was a musical with a coming-of-age story with the main character wanting more than their current life and seeking romance in some way. After 10 of them like that it was getting tiring. I don't think Brother Bear was great though, it always felt like a worse Emperor's New Groove to me with forgettable characters and leftovers of the Tarzan soundtrack on top.
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Post by astropoug on May 10, 2022 5:26:52 GMT 10
The movie just isn't on par with the 90s Disney movies. It's a very childish feeling movie, whereas most 90s Disney movies had a broader appeal, especially due to their darker themes, music numbers, and high stake plots. Prime example would be Disney's most successful Disney Renaissance film, The Lion King. It's filled with iconic musical numbers, has a menacing, evil villain, high stakes, dark themes, and a generally grand scope. Brother Bear just doesn't compare, and the worst part is that Disney WANTED it to be like The Lion King, but whilst it did well at the box office, it got poor reviews from critics. I don't think it was necessarily a bad change tbh. 90s Disney while having some great movies back-to-back were also incredibly formulaic. Almost every movie during that decade was a musical with a coming-of-age story with the main character wanting more than their current life and seeking romance in some way. After 10 of them like that it was getting tiring. I don't think Brother Bear was great though, it always felt like a worse Emperor's New Groove to me with forgettable characters and leftovers of the Tarzan soundtrack on top. I don't disagree. I love the 90s Disney movies but they do kinda feel same-ish, with many of the same cliches being used. This was made even worse by all the copycat movies trying to cash in on Disney's success in the decade. And Disney themselves realized this, because starting in 2000, they began making non-musical films like Dinosaur and The Emperor's New Groove. Meanwhile, the animated film industry was shifting toward Pixar and Dreamworks style movies, with a greater focus on friendship and family rather than romance, and, if there are songs, they generally tend to be contemporary pop songs rather than showtunes. The plots were often the opposite of 90s Disney, where instead of characters who want more, you have characters satisfied with their life but then a sudden change occurs that they don't like. CGI was gaining prominence and replacing 2D animated movies, but even the new 2D animated movies felt different from their 90s counterparts (other non-Disney examples being The Iron Giant and The Road to El Dorado). Throughout the 2000s, Disney was trying to find their identity. The fact none of their movies have a distinct "theme" is why this is called Disney's "experimental era". In contrast to the fantasy-oriented movies that defined Disney for decades, many 2000s Disney movies were sci-fi oriented, like Lilo & Stitch, Chicken Little, and Meet the Robinsons. The 2010s seems to be a mixture between more traditional-feeling Disney movies, like Tangled, Frozen, and Moana, and untraditional movies like Wreck It Ralph, Big Hero 6, and Zootopia.
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