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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 21, 2017 15:59:58 GMT 10
Inspired by RockyMountainExtreme's thread, which years would you consider to be the worst years for music? Here are my top-5: 5. 19881988 doesn't really appeal to me, for some reason. To me, it just seems like a really "stale" and "uninspiring" year for music, despite the fact that '80s culture was still going strong at that point. With the exception of "Better Be Home Soon" and "Got My Mind Set on You", I honestly can't think of any songs which I like from 1988! 4. 2005
Most of the pop/hip-hop songs released in 2005 (and the Mid 2000s, in general) were really low-brow and childish. Even as a 6 y/o at the time, I generally didn't like most of the music that was being released. It seemed like Snoop Dog, Jay-Z and Beyonce featured in everything. Honestly, you would hear about them all the time. It's not a year I look back on with much fondness. 3. 2012
Maybe it's the fact that I started high school that year and it has possibly influenced my perception of it, but I personally find 2012 to be one of the worse years for music this century. I thought 2012 was a real let-down, because 2010 and 2011 seemed really promising and I thought music was generally heading in a good direction. I don't think I would ever want to listen to songs such as "Call Me Maybe", "We Are Young" and "What Makes you Beautiful" again, due to how overplayed they were at the time. 2. 1990The 1990s were such a diverse and creative time for popular music, yet 1990 was rather sub-par in terms of overall quality. My main grife with 1990 is how "stale" music had become. '80s influences were on their way out and becoming irrelevant, yet '90s culture/trends had yet to fully establish itself. As a result, it was a year which, for the most part, had uninspiring and lacklustre compositions. In many ways, I believe 1990 is a precursor to what the music industry would become in the 21st Century; an industry with an emphasis on "image" over substance and talent. "Hair metal" and "house-music" were to 1990, what teen-pop and nu-metal were to the Y2K Era. IMO, 1990 really could have been the turning point where the music industry would have become over-commercialised in time, much like how it did in the Y2K era (through teen-pop stars and boy bands). For instance, "Cherry Pie" by Warrant was very much a "record company" product. Columbia Records had wanted a "rock record" and the song was penned in just 15 minutes by the band. I think that's the direction music was heading in. There were already indications of this at the time. Like I mentioned in the previous paragraph, the hip-hop/house music at the time was essential the "teen-pop" and "nu-metal" of the Early '90s. They were easy to produce and that's why we ended up with songs like "Sucker DJ", "U Can't Touch This" and "Ice Ice Baby". In addition to those songs, there was also "Do the Bartman" and bands/artists like New Kids on the Block, Milli Vanilli, Vanilla Ice and Pet Shop Boys. Music was beginning to become over-commercialised and record companies were beginning to exploit talent. 1. 2016I know not everyone will agree with this, but I believe 2016 would have to be the worst year for music in recent history. I honestly can't think of another year where two genres completely over-saturated the music industry to the same extent. EDM and trap literally were the only genres on the Top-40 charts. It wouldn't be so bad if the genres offered a lot of substance, but the majority of songs which were on the charts last year are pure "record-label inventions". They all have the same generic beat and "soulless" vocals. There was very little variation in the songs and absolutely no diversity on the charts. Quite simply, it was awful.
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Post by RockyMountainExtreme on Dec 21, 2017 17:17:41 GMT 10
For me, a list like this would probably comprise entirely of years in the 2010s, at least as far as the mainstream stuff goes. Underground music in the 2010s is great, we have Alestorm, Skindred, Saint Asonia, etc. but as far as mainstream music goes, the only artist I really like is Ed Sheeran, and others I find just okay such as Lukas Graham and Taylor Swift. Then there's tons of garbage related to acts such as Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande, etc. It just seems to me that todays pop musicians are trying to indoctrinate rather than entertain. The vast majority of mainstream pop music celebrities are on the political left and seem to only appreciate fans that share the same political views as they do, and it also seems to me that the record companies are just pushing out this party pop music just to make it seem like everything's gonna be okay during times of crisis like these.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 21, 2017 21:48:39 GMT 10
Out of the past 20 years=
5. '98
4. '14
3. '06
2. '08
1. '04
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 21, 2017 21:57:20 GMT 10
Out of the past 20 years= 5. '98 4. '14 3. '06 2. '08 1. '04 Just out of curiosity, what do you dislike about 2014?
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Post by longaotian on Dec 21, 2017 22:01:59 GMT 10
Out of the past 20 years= 5. '98 4. '14 3. '06 2. '08 1. '04 Just out of curiosity, what do you dislike about 2014? I mean 85% of that year was annoying pop songs like "All about that bass" & "Shake it off" and the other 15% seemed to be just really depressing music. It's the only year this decade that I really dislike.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 21, 2017 22:03:14 GMT 10
Just out of curiosity, what do you dislike about 2014? I mean 85% of that year was annoying pop songs like "All about that bass" & "Shake it off" and the other 15% seemed to be just really depressing music. It's the only year this decade that I really dislike. That's a fair point. It was also the year when 5 Seconds of Summer were popular.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 21, 2017 22:08:47 GMT 10
I mean 85% of that year was annoying pop songs like "All about that bass" & "Shake it off" and the other 15% seemed to be just really depressing music. It's the only year this decade that I really dislike. That's a fair point. It was also the year when 5 Seconds of Summer were popular. I've heard of them before, but i don't really know or want to know much about them . All I remember was that in Year 10 a lot of girls liked them lol.
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Post by #Infinity on Dec 22, 2017 3:32:30 GMT 10
1. 2016 - Originally, I considered 2015 to be the worst of the worst, but now, in hindsight, 2016 just blows chunks due to how unbelievably little it produced in the way of truly great songs. It definitely had its share of trash, too, such as “Don’t Let Me Down,” “Work,” “Don’t Mind,” any awful trap rap song, and of course, “M.I.L.F. $.” I think “Tilted,” “Perfect Illusion,” and “I Took a Pill in Ibiza (Seeb Remix)” are the only real 5/5 songs to come out of 2016.
2. 1960 - Ugh, what a forgettable and inconsequenial time for music. Most songs were super whitbread and rehashed either the tired 50s chord progression or pedestrian 12-bar blues progression. Everything was super homogenous, too corny to be tasteful, and completely unimaginative. Even 1961 and 1962 had more of a punch and more soul to their sound.
3. 2015 - A complete disgrace for a year I had been eagerly anticipating since my childhood. This was around the time music went from being upbeat and shallow to just dull and shallow. There may be slightly more singles from 2015 that I really like than 2016, but that says very little, and it’s still one of the least impactful years in music history.
4. 2008 - Even though the range of genres was far broader here than it’s been this decade, the utter feebleness of the songs themselves render that point irrelevant. With a few exceptions, like “Propane Nightmares,” “Up,” and “Cry for You” (which isn’t even as good as the original recording by September in 2006), there are hardly any songs from 2008 that left any huge impact on me, and the lack of strong full albums certainly doesn’t make things any better. What 2008 did produce was a slew of some of the most boring songs to ever make it big on the radio. From “No Air,” to “Realize,” to “Stop and Stare,” to “I’m Yours,” to “You Found Me,” and so on, the big hits of 2008 were terribly transparent and I barely even remember most of them. Oh, and the ringtone rap movement was still going on in America.
5. 2012 - I think almost every song this year sounded the same. Just a bunch of hollow EDM songs with stale, overpowering production and boring progressions. Very little broke the norm.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 22, 2017 21:35:29 GMT 10
3. 2015 - A complete disgrace for a year I had been eagerly anticipating since my childhood. This was around the time music went from being upbeat and shallow to just dull and shallow. There may be slightly more singles from 2015 that I really like than 2016, but that says very little, and it’s still one of the least impactful years in music history. It's interesting that you should say that, because I personally consider 2015 to be one of the best years of this decade for music. The music of 2015 was far less homogenous than the music of the following year, IMO. However, with that said, i'm still not particularly a fan of the majority of songs which were released that year. Based on my observations of the charts and what I have read, 2008 seemed to be more of a lacklustre year in the United States than it was in other parts of the world. Prior to the emergence of Electropop in Late 2008/Early 2009, music seemed rather directionless and stagnant in the States, IMO. For comparisons sake, here are the Billboard Hot 100 & ARIA Charts from early September 2008. Billboard Hot 100 Chart: www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2008-09-06ARIA Chart: www.australian-charts.com/weekchart.asp?cat=s&year=2008&date=20080831They are actually quite different from each other. I'm not sure what you think about them, but I would personally consider the ARIA chart to be the better out of the two. Although, I guess it comes down to personal taste.
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Post by #Infinity on Dec 23, 2017 0:46:16 GMT 10
3. 2015 - A complete disgrace for a year I had been eagerly anticipating since my childhood. This was around the time music went from being upbeat and shallow to just dull and shallow. There may be slightly more singles from 2015 that I really like than 2016, but that says very little, and it’s still one of the least impactful years in music history. It's interesting that you should say that, because I personally consider 2015 to be one of the best years of this decade for music. The music of 2015 was far less homogenous than the music of the following year, IMO. However, with that said, i'm still not particularly a fan of the majority of songs which were released that year. p I constantly feel like a minority on 2015. I don't understand what makes everybody else say it was one of the better years for music in the 2010s, yet 2014 always gets mauled to death. How was there more variety? I thought it was still just a bunch of awful EDM and trap songs, with fewer novelties that broke the norm than the previous two years. What songs from 2015 do you like?My picks are really based primarily on a combination of the American charts and the UK charts. This is precisely what saves years like 2006 for me. As for 2008, on one hand, the pop scene that year was absolutely abysmal in the United States, but it wasn't really that much better in the UK, either. Even though all of the songs I listed as being good from 2008 were hits in the UK but not the US ("Fascination" by Alphabeat is also one of my favourite songs of the 2000s, but it came out in 2006 in Denmark), much of the really boring stuff persisted, too. Now 70, released in the summer of 2008, is one of my least favourites in the UK series.
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Post by longaotian on Dec 23, 2017 6:59:58 GMT 10
Out of the past 20 years= 5. '98 4. '14 3. '06 2. '08 1. '04 2009 came quite close to being on this list
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Post by longaotian on Dec 23, 2017 7:07:59 GMT 10
Based on my observations of the charts and what I have read, 2008 seemed to be more of a lacklustre year in the United States than it was in other parts of the world. Prior to the emergence of Electropop in Late 2008/Early 2009, music seemed rather directionless and stagnant in the States, IMO. For comparisons sake, here are the Billboard Hot 100 & ARIA Charts from early September 2008. Billboard Hot 100 Chart: www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2008-09-06ARIA Chart: www.australian-charts.com/weekchart.asp?cat=s&year=2008&date=20080831They are actually quite different from each other. I'm not sure what you think about them, but I would personally consider the ARIA chart to be the better out of the two. Although, I guess it comes down to personal taste. Completely agree. IMO, music reached a low point in the first half of 2008 as it almost seemed music wasn't going anywhere. Fortunately, this would change throughout the second half of 2008 and 2009 with the rise of Electropop. However, I think we are currently facing the same problem here in 2017 and possibly 2018. I think the trap/EDM that defined the core 2010s is really dragging on atm and there is nothing new replacing it. None of you would probably agree with me, but I found majority of the EDM released in the past few years enjoyable however things seemd to have fallen off a cliff this year with the releases sounding almost like variations of the exact exact same song.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 23, 2017 9:58:16 GMT 10
It's interesting that you should say that, because I personally consider 2015 to be one of the best years of this decade for music. The music of 2015 was far less homogenous than the music of the following year, IMO. However, with that said, i'm still not particularly a fan of the majority of songs which were released that year. p I constantly feel like a minority on 2015. I don't understand what makes everybody else say it was one of the better years for music in the 2010s, yet 2014 always gets mauled to death. How was there more variety? I thought it was still just a bunch of awful EDM and trap songs, with fewer novelties that broke the norm than the previous two years. What songs from 2015 do you like? I feel as though the EDM and trap songs which were popular that year were slightly more varied in terms of song structure. They are still just as awful as the EDM & trap songs which were released in other parts of the decade, however the genres weren't quite as homogenous as they are now, at least in my opinion. I hardly like any songs from 2015. The only two songs I somewhat like are "Shut Up and Dance" by Walk The Moon (although, it was actually released in 2014) and "Hallelujah" by The Rubens. The latter didn't chart in the Top-50, but received extensive airplay at the time of it's release. Completely agree. IMO, music reached a low point in the first half of 2008 as it almost seemed music wasn't going anywhere. Fortunately, this would change throughout the second half of 2008 and 2009 with the rise of Electropop. However, I think we are currently facing the same problem here in 2017 and possibly 2018. I think the trap/EDM that defined the core 2010s is really dragging on atm and there is nothing new replacing it. Yep. There will likely be a shift in the music sometime in the next 12-18 months, IMO.
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Post by Telso on Aug 12, 2018 21:03:30 GMT 10
I'm keeping to post-1965 otherwise this list would be peppered with 50s years. And I do like vintage Pop and Jazz! But the 50s, especially the mid-part, were just so dull in that regard. 1. 1989: The 80s formula that I actually like of "super quirky new wave" was long gone at this point. What's left is tired synth pop that lost the creative spark that made the genre, as well as both glam metal and adult contemporary such as Phil Collins having the upperhand, both genres I'm absolutely not fan of 2. 1990: Mostly the same as 1989, just more dull/annoying dance-pop and pop rap anthems a la "I'm Too Sexy" or "Ice, Ice Baby" too. Some okay new jack swing thrown into the mix to help this year out I guess. 3. 1974: I realised I'm honestly not a super fan of the "early-to-mid 70s" despite some cool prog rock, funk and soul going on. But in the mainstream glam rock, soft rock and folk ballads reigned supreme which are equivalents to 80s/90s glam metal and adult contemp. And this year in particular stands out for some truly horrible Garry Glitter hits. I prefer the late 70s with disco and punk sorry 4. 2014: I think y'all know why this one by now In short, 80% of the hits were annoying twerk music. 5. 1991: Ditto for this year for what I said about 1989/1990, just with worse adult contemp hits. But I have to admit I do like Mariah Carey's hits a lot starting this year, which are a breath of fresh air. The order might honestly be a bit interchangeable
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Post by longaotian on Sept 2, 2018 14:26:51 GMT 10
I'm keeping to post-1965 otherwise this list would be peppered with 50s years. And I do like vintage Pop and Jazz! But the 50s, especially the mid-part, were just so dull in that regard. 1. 1989: The 80s formula that I actually like of "super quirky new wave" was long gone at this point. What's left is tired synth pop that lost the creative spark that made the genre, as well as both glam metal and adult contemporary such as Phil Collins having the upperhand, both genres I'm absolutely not fan of 2. 1990: Mostly the same as 1989, just more dull/annoying dance-pop and pop rap anthems a la "I'm Too Sexy" or "Ice, Ice Baby" too. Some okay new jack swing thrown into the mix to help this year out I guess. 3. 1974: I realised I'm honestly not a super fan of the "early-to-mid 70s" despite some cool prog rock, funk and soul going on. But in the mainstream glam rock, soft rock and folk ballads reigned supreme which are equivalents to 80s/90s glam metal and adult contemp. And this year in particular stands out for some truly horrible Garry Glitter hits. I prefer the late 70s with disco and punk sorry 4. 2014: I think y'all know why this one by now In short, 80% of the hits were annoying twerk music. 5. 1991: Ditto for this year for what I said about 1989/1990, just with worse adult contemp hits. But I have to admit I do like Mariah Carey's hits a lot starting this year, which are a breath of fresh air. The order might honestly be a bit interchangeable Yep. The late 80s/early 90s were definitely a low point in music imo.
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