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Post by al on Mar 14, 2023 13:30:35 GMT 10
The change is far less noticeable than 2008-2013 but there's something. I think we're done with whatever era it was in 2018 but still towards the beginning of a new one. There's a fresher vibe than there was then, such as with Taylor and Miley's new albums right now. We're seeing far more of the y2k color palettes. It's getting lighter again? All the Star Wars and Marvel etc. stuff is calming down. Maybe I'm wrong but there's just less "hype" about most everything in 2023. I think the 10's are doing more of a slow fade than the 00's did.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 15, 2023 0:36:56 GMT 10
al As for Y2K i'ts already phasing out, it's been here for 4 years already, esp with websites and houses confusing McbLing and Y2k. On the runway there seems to be the sentiment to get away from 97-2001 style. Ballet inspired, Moto inspired fashion are the new "current trend" that stores like Zara and H&m will copy from the current crop of Dior's and Prada runways. Oh and 3D printed roses are also big. You have the comeback of Diesel which is cool, now they are legitimate house now competing with the likes of Off White but they just chase trends as does Marc Jacobs now with his hypebeast Heaven line. Right now Gucci fell all the way to the bottom due to them losing their creative director, Balenciaga is now dead due to their pedo controversy. Prada is number #1 right now with LV right behind it. Marvel is def slowing down, Ant Man was a flop and it seems no one really talks about Marvel as much anymore. It's mostly in part to having to watch every Disney + show to keep up with all the crap thats going on. Marvel had priortized and banked on people watching all of these shows/movies instead of focusing on the casual audience. They did it to themselves. MCM had been going on since 2008 constantly churning out movie after movie so it was obv fatigue was finally going to set in after End Game. Right now all the companies are doing Multiverse mode as a last ditch effort.
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Post by 10slover on Mar 15, 2023 2:02:34 GMT 10
al As for Y2K i'ts already phasing out, it's been here for 4 years already, esp with websites and houses confusing McbLing and Y2k. On the runway there seems to be the sentiment to get away from 97-2001 style. Ballet inspired, Moto inspired fashion are the new "current trend" that stores like Zara and H&m will copy from the current crop of Dior's and Prada runways. Oh and 3D printed roses are also big. You have the comeback of Diesel which is cool, now they are legitimate house now competing with the likes of Off White but they just chase trends as does Marc Jacobs now with his hypebeast Heaven line. Right now Gucci fell all the way to the bottom due to them losing their creative director, Balenciaga is now dead due to their pedo controversy. Prada is number #1 right now with LV right behind it. Marvel is def slowing down, Ant Man was a flop and it seems no one really talks about Marvel as much anymore. It's mostly in part to having to watch every Disney + show to keep up with all the crap thats going on. Marvel had priortized and banked on people watching all of these shows/movies instead of focusing on the casual audience. They did it to themselves. MCM had been going on since 2008 constantly churning out movie after movie so it was obv fatigue was finally going to set in after End Game. Right now all the companies are doing Multiverse mode as a last ditch effort. Would you compare the 2018-(march)2023 transition to the 1998-(march)2003 transition ?
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Post by John Titor on Mar 15, 2023 3:55:42 GMT 10
al As for Y2K i'ts already phasing out, it's been here for 4 years already, esp with websites and houses confusing McbLing and Y2k. On the runway there seems to be the sentiment to get away from 97-2001 style. Ballet inspired, Moto inspired fashion are the new "current trend" that stores like Zara and H&m will copy from the current crop of Dior's and Prada runways. Oh and 3D printed roses are also big. You have the comeback of Diesel which is cool, now they are legitimate house now competing with the likes of Off White but they just chase trends as does Marc Jacobs now with his hypebeast Heaven line. Right now Gucci fell all the way to the bottom due to them losing their creative director, Balenciaga is now dead due to their pedo controversy. Prada is number #1 right now with LV right behind it. Marvel is def slowing down, Ant Man was a flop and it seems no one really talks about Marvel as much anymore. It's mostly in part to having to watch every Disney + show to keep up with all the crap thats going on. Marvel had priortized and banked on people watching all of these shows/movies instead of focusing on the casual audience. They did it to themselves. MCM had been going on since 2008 constantly churning out movie after movie so it was obv fatigue was finally going to set in after End Game. Right now all the companies are doing Multiverse mode as a last ditch effort. Would you compare the 2018-(march)2023 transition to the 1998-(march)2003 transition ? I would say that is accurate, the early 2000s felt more dramatic than 97-03 tho ( It really started in 97 not 98)
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Post by al on Mar 15, 2023 12:47:09 GMT 10
al As for Y2K i'ts already phasing out, it's been here for 4 years already, esp with websites and houses confusing McbLing and Y2k. On the runway there seems to be the sentiment to get away from 97-2001 style. Ballet inspired, Moto inspired fashion are the new "current trend" that stores like Zara and H&m will copy from the current crop of Dior's and Prada runways. Oh and 3D printed roses are also big. You have the comeback of Diesel which is cool, now they are legitimate house now competing with the likes of Off White but they just chase trends as does Marc Jacobs now with his hypebeast Heaven line. Right now Gucci fell all the way to the bottom due to them losing their creative director, Balenciaga is now dead due to their pedo controversy. Prada is number #1 right now with LV right behind it. Marvel is def slowing down, Ant Man was a flop and it seems no one really talks about Marvel as much anymore. It's mostly in part to having to watch every Disney + show to keep up with all the crap thats going on. Marvel had priortized and banked on people watching all of these shows/movies instead of focusing on the casual audience. They did it to themselves. MCM had been going on since 2008 constantly churning out movie after movie so it was obv fatigue was finally going to set in after End Game. Right now all the companies are doing Multiverse mode as a last ditch effort. I like the ballet and moto inspired stuff but I have been a little surprised to see it creeping back already, since it was my 2013-14 look. Urban Outfitters has been on it this winter. It feels sort of like a re-do of the tumblr revival to me, which on its own was a too-soon flop. Some brighter colors seem to be arriving at Target before a lot of other mainstream stores. I keep looking out for when the too unsaturated palettes are going to go out, but I think they'll be pushed towards an increasingly older demographic for a bit as the youth market tires of it. Many people used to describe Marvel as a "casual popcorn flick" so taking away that element definitely hurt them. I can't figure out what direction movies are going in right now. Looking at this years Oscar nominations something felt disjointed, like there weren't even that many movies out, and I don't think it's solely pandemic related at this point.
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Post by John Titor on Mar 15, 2023 13:12:01 GMT 10
al As for Y2K i'ts already phasing out, it's been here for 4 years already, esp with websites and houses confusing McbLing and Y2k. On the runway there seems to be the sentiment to get away from 97-2001 style. Ballet inspired, Moto inspired fashion are the new "current trend" that stores like Zara and H&m will copy from the current crop of Dior's and Prada runways. Oh and 3D printed roses are also big. You have the comeback of Diesel which is cool, now they are legitimate house now competing with the likes of Off White but they just chase trends as does Marc Jacobs now with his hypebeast Heaven line. Right now Gucci fell all the way to the bottom due to them losing their creative director, Balenciaga is now dead due to their pedo controversy. Prada is number #1 right now with LV right behind it. Marvel is def slowing down, Ant Man was a flop and it seems no one really talks about Marvel as much anymore. It's mostly in part to having to watch every Disney + show to keep up with all the crap thats going on. Marvel had priortized and banked on people watching all of these shows/movies instead of focusing on the casual audience. They did it to themselves. MCM had been going on since 2008 constantly churning out movie after movie so it was obv fatigue was finally going to set in after End Game. Right now all the companies are doing Multiverse mode as a last ditch effort. I like the ballet and moto inspired stuff but I have been a little surprised to see it creeping back already, since it was my 2013-14 look. Urban Outfitters has been on it this winter. It feels sort of like a re-do of the tumblr revival to me, which on its own was a too-soon flop. Some brighter colors seem to be arriving at Target before a lot of other mainstream stores. I keep looking out for when the too unsaturated palettes are going to go out, but I think they'll be pushed towards an increasingly older demographic for a bit as the youth market tires of it. Many people used to describe Marvel as a "casual popcorn flick" so taking away that element definitely hurt them. I can't figure out what direction movies are going in right now. Looking at this years Oscar nominations something felt disjointed, like there weren't even that many movies out, and I don't think it's solely pandemic related at this point. the thing is with Target and the like, they are just copying whatever Dior and Chanel did 6-8 months ago and sometimes even a year ago, they are very slow to catch up. The exception being maybe Zara because they stalk the hell out of the runways and try to come out with a LITE version of it as soon as possible to cash in on trends. Shein as well is usually like it's 1-2 years behind in the fashion world. Right now Prada is the number one house ( even beating Chanel and Louie ) so expect to see more Prada influenced copy cat looking fits. They spent a multi million dollar budget with their new creative director Raf Simons at the helm. I myself love Prada and just bought a skirt from them lol Yeah I agree it did, they got cocky and thought everyone was going to watch everything they did lol. As for movies I think Scream doing good is going to bring back the Slasher genre. Oscars usually is a jerk off fest for Oscar bait type movies. I would go more on what sells vs what gets nominated and wins. We might see more Top Gun machismo type movies ( Top Gun 2 did really really good ) Few movie trends I could see - Slasher revival - Space movie comeback ( Dune etc) - Machismo Top Gun / Terminator type films -Video Game adaptions ( Sonic/Mario)
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Post by sman12 on Mar 31, 2023 20:21:50 GMT 10
Here's how I think they're different:
2018: Superhero movies were huge (e.g., Black Panther and Avengers: Infinity War), Instagram and Snapchat, Fortnite was a major cultural phenomenon, 8th gen gaming (PS4 and Xbox One), emo rap and trap, slang like "it's lit" and "fire"
2023: TikTok, AI became a hot topic, pop punk revival, phonk music, and retro pop, video game adaptation renaissance (e.g. The Last of Us and The Super Mario Bros. Movie) and peak superhero fatigue, 9th gen gaming (PS5 and Xbox Series X), slang like "based" and "bussin"
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Post by pumpkin14 on Mar 31, 2023 23:46:43 GMT 10
most 5 year gaps aren’t going to show much difference but i still feel that we’re firmly in the 2020s pop culture and have left the late 2010s behind for the most part differences between 2018 & 2023: - trump is no longer president (and is now indicted ) - 9th gen gaming - 2023 is post-covid (the shadow of covid is still here, some people occasionally will wear masks, and hand sanitizer and mask dispensers are readily accessible and commonplace in public spaces now, unlike just a few years ago) - tiktok is the main social media app and is defining the zeitgeist - baggier “gen z” fashion is now common in 2023 but was still niche in 2018 - AI has grown so much and is influencing culture right now - more people now are using wireless headphones and contactless payments than in the late 2010s (also most smartphones are buttonless and notchless) - streaming is king with plenty of streaming services nowadays, most of which didn’t even exist yet in 2018. some popular shows were still on cable in 2018 despite streaming taking over - 2010s tv franchises were still relevant in 2018 (adventure time/GoT/modern family/ scandal/orange is the new black/etc.) and the mcu was still peaking. in 2023 newer shows define the time and the vibe (euphoria, squid game, wednesday, white lotus,etc) and the mcu is losing popularity (also a lot DC films are widely loved nowadays, such as Joker and The Batman) - trap isn’t the template for pop or even hip hop music anymore (and overall pop music sounds less edgy and moody than the late 10s) - 2023 is core gen z youth culture unlike 2018 - 2010s music artists are still here but newer artists are defining the youth culture (olivia rodrigo, lil nas x, doja cat, etc)
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Post by John Titor on Apr 1, 2023 0:04:22 GMT 10
Here's how I think they're different: 2018: Superhero movies were huge (e.g., Black Panther and Avengers: Infinity War), Instagram and Snapchat, Fortnite was a major cultural phenomenon, 8th gen gaming (PS4 and Xbox One), emo rap and trap, slang like "it's lit" and "fire" 2023: TikTok, AI became a hot topic, pop punk revival, phonk music, and retro pop, video game adaptation renaissance (e.g. The Last of Us and The Super Mario Bros. Movie) and peak superhero fatigue, 9th gen gaming (PS5 and Xbox Series X), slang like "based" and "bussin" Pop Punk revival has been a thing since late 2019-2020 popedia.boards.net/thread/2298/punks-radio-comeback-slated-late
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Post by Telso on Apr 1, 2023 5:22:55 GMT 10
2018 is definitely dated in its own right (pre-COVID, beginning of the TikTok era, internet challenges still being a thing, peak of the SoundCloud era, all that Y2K revivalism not being a thing yet), but it's definitely not as impressive a 5 years jump as others we've seen before.
Lately I've been blown away rethinking about how 2009 and 2014 were only 5 years apart, they felt like two completely different universes, for instance. Let alone some periods before even that.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Apr 2, 2023 14:08:16 GMT 10
2018 is definitely dated in its own right (pre-COVID, beginning of the TikTok era, internet challenges still being a thing, peak of the SoundCloud era, all that Y2K revivalism not being a thing yet), but it's definitely not as impressive a 5 years jump as others we've seen before. Lately I've been blown away rethinking about how 2009 and 2014 were only 5 years apart, they felt like two completely different universes, for instance. Let alone some periods before even that. i started elementary school in 2008 and ended in 2015 (in my area it’s k-6) and the difference in pop culture felt huge between when i started and when i left
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Post by mediaguy93 on Jul 26, 2023 5:01:46 GMT 10
For music a major a difference is that songs like this Completely fell off the map If only that singing style fell off the map too. Speaking of which, is this still a popular singing style? I haven't really been paying close attention to popular music, since probably 2017/2018ish (and probably stopped liking it long before then)?
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Post by Telso on Jul 26, 2023 7:26:00 GMT 10
For music a major a difference is that songs like this Completely fell off the map If only that singing style fell off the map too. Speaking of which, is this still a popular singing style? I haven't really been paying close attention to popular music, since probably 2017/2018ish (and probably stopped liking it long before then)? What singing style
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Post by mediaguy93 on Jul 26, 2023 7:36:26 GMT 10
If only that singing style fell off the map too. Speaking of which, is this still a popular singing style? I haven't really been paying close attention to popular music, since probably 2017/2018ish (and probably stopped liking it long before then)? What singing style The singing style in the song. I don't know what it's called.
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Post by 10slover on Jul 26, 2023 13:20:34 GMT 10
The singing style in the song. I don't know what it's called. Ariana Grande style vocals? I hate them too
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