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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 13:11:06 GMT 10
Same I haven't got whooped since I was 8 so and the recently last time I got whooped was by my brother in October of 2016 all because I threw a stuffed Pikachu at my sister anyways now my mom just yells at me. O wow, pretty interesting how you got whooped @wobo . Usually, I hear older people say that parents don't beat their kids anymore that's why our generation is so bad. I got whooped by my older sister when I was 9 for accidentally kicking my little brother in the stomach. I know Black parents still beat their kids because of the verse in Proverbs on sparing the rod and in most cases Hispanic parents, but that's mainly because people of those groups of people live in harsher environments where physical punishment teaches kids how to be tough. Didn't mean for the post to be racial, but being that you're the youngest on this board I wouldn't have expected you to have gotten whooped, maybe spanked (being whooped and spanked are different in where I'm from). Yep I'm black also and I can't blame my mom I was an ass when I was a child.
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Post by mwalker96 on Mar 10, 2018 0:11:51 GMT 10
O wow, pretty interesting how you got whooped @wobo . Usually, I hear older people say that parents don't beat their kids anymore that's why our generation is so bad. I got whooped by my older sister when I was 9 for accidentally kicking my little brother in the stomach. I know Black parents still beat their kids because of the verse in Proverbs on sparing the rod and in most cases Hispanic parents, but that's mainly because people of those groups of people live in harsher environments where physical punishment teaches kids how to be tough. Didn't mean for the post to be racial, but being that you're the youngest on this board I wouldn't have expected you to have gotten whooped, maybe spanked (being whooped and spanked are different in where I'm from). Yep I'm black also and I can't blame my mom I was an ass when I was a child. Haven't we all been jerks to our parents? You seem like a pretty good kid, but everyone has good days and bad days. I have a niece who's the same age as you and she used to get whooped all the time when she was younger. To those people who lost hope in our generation need to look at this forum, parents still beat their kids even in a more politically correct society.
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Post by grimmy on Mar 11, 2018 2:02:40 GMT 10
Anybody that smacks a child immediately loses their humanity and don't deserve any recognition or respect. They're abusive garbage and should be condemned.
I don't care how much they think it will discipline their child, if you think the only way to raise and teach your child is to hit them, then maybe you shouldn't even have children in the first place.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Mar 11, 2018 11:45:35 GMT 10
Anybody that smacks a child immediately loses their humanity and don't deserve any recognition or respect. They're abusive garbage and should be condemned. I don't care how much they think it will discipline their child, if you think the only way to raise and teach your child is to hit them, then maybe you shouldn't even have children in the first place. I agree. Smacking is not an effective parental technique and it can have several consequences for the child.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 4:25:15 GMT 10
My parents always said 'You're never too old to be hit'. I was raised in a strict Irish family.
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Post by dount2005 on May 15, 2018 14:12:44 GMT 10
IMO smacking a child will most likely do more harm than good. Since my dad smacked me more than my mom, I hardly talked to my dad and I didn't really want to. I always talked to my mom. When I was younger, I saw my dad as "dangerous" and "rude" because he would smack me with the belt when I didn't do something or did something wrong. I remember in late 2013 when I refused to clean the dishes and he decided to lean me against the table and yell at me to clean them. It almost seemed like he was choking me. I remember crying and wanting to not talk to him again. My mom learned from him and sometimes will smack me or pull my hair but she mainly just took my things away. Even though I did grow up being smacked like that, I just think that it's a perfect recipe for ruining your relationship with your child. I don't want to discipline my kids like that. I just think it is way too far and I'd even go as far to say it's child abuse. I just think you're teaching your kid that it's ok to smack and hit someone if they don't do as you say, and then they end up doing the same with their future kids and etc. Spanking isn't generally child abuse unless it leads to bruises, broken bones, prolonged marks, etc. There is a fine line between spanking your child in hopes of teaching them a lesson and brutally beating them up. Now, I'm not saying beating your child up is ever ok. It isn't, but when parents talk about "spanking" their kids, they generally mean giving their child a slap in the face or hitting them with the belt, as opposed to doing serious fatal injury. Even if it's for a reason, beating a child up in ways that could harm their bodies physically is NEVER ok.
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Post by Telso on May 15, 2018 19:50:52 GMT 10
I can't get behind spanking as punishment at all. A slap on the wrist (with a hand, not an object) if the child is putting themselves in danger (like they are going to touch a hot stove, etc) is one thing. Touching their bottom as a punshiment is 100% not okay, regardless of the degree of force. How does one teach non-violence to a child while exhibiting violence? How does one teach boundaries to a child while invading those boundaries?
There are other forms of punishment that are probably more effective.
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Post by Attorney General ReignMan on May 16, 2018 10:37:13 GMT 10
IMO smacking a child will most likely do more harm than good. Since my dad smacked me more than my mom, I hardly talked to my dad and I didn't really want to. I always talked to my mom. When I was younger, I saw my dad as "dangerous" and "rude" because he would smack me with the belt when I didn't do something or did something wrong. I remember in late 2013 when I refused to clean the dishes and he decided to lean me against the table and yell at me to clean them. It almost seemed like he was choking me. I remember crying and wanting to not talk to him again. My mom learned from him and sometimes will smack me or pull my hair but she mainly just took my things away. Even though I did grow up being smacked like that, I just think that it's a perfect recipe for ruining your relationship with your child. I don't want to discipline my kids like that. I just think it is way too far and I'd even go as far to say it's child abuse. I just think you're teaching your kid that it's ok to smack and hit someone if they don't do as you say, and then they end up doing the same with their future kids and etc. Spanking isn't generally child abuse unless it leads to bruises, broken bones, prolonged marks, etc. There is a fine line between spanking your child in hopes of teaching them a lesson and brutally beating them up. Now, I'm not saying beating your child up is ever ok. It isn't, but when parents talk about "spanking" their kids, they generally mean giving their child a slap in the face or hitting them with the belt, as opposed to doing serious fatal injury. Even if it's for a reason, beating a child up in ways that could harm their bodies physically is NEVER ok. ^^^
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 10:53:17 GMT 10
IMO smacking a child will most likely do more harm than good. Since my dad smacked me more than my mom, I hardly talked to my dad and I didn't really want to. I always talked to my mom. When I was younger, I saw my dad as "dangerous" and "rude" because he would smack me with the belt when I didn't do something or did something wrong. I remember in late 2013 when I refused to clean the dishes and he decided to lean me against the table and yell at me to clean them. It almost seemed like he was choking me. I remember crying and wanting to not talk to him again. My mom learned from him and sometimes will smack me or pull my hair but she mainly just took my things away. Even though I did grow up being smacked like that, I just think that it's a perfect recipe for ruining your relationship with your child. I don't want to discipline my kids like that. I just think it is way too far and I'd even go as far to say it's child abuse. I just think you're teaching your kid that it's ok to smack and hit someone if they don't do as you say, and then they end up doing the same with their future kids and etc. Spanking isn't generally child abuse unless it leads to bruises, broken bones, prolonged marks, etc. There is a fine line between spanking your child in hopes of teaching them a lesson and brutally beating them up. Now, I'm not saying beating your child up is ever ok. It isn't, but when parents talk about "spanking" their kids, they generally mean giving their child a slap in the face or hitting them with the belt, as opposed to doing serious fatal injury. Even if it's for a reason, beating a child up in ways that could harm their bodies physically is NEVER ok. That seems arbitrary. Would, for example, hitting your wife have to result in injury for it to be considered spousal abuse? I would imagine not. I think what rainbow is trying to say is that smacking ought to be considered child abuse, even though it isn't in contemporary parlance. The only reason hitting your child isn't considered child abuse is because it's so common and something many of us grew up with. Calling these actions child abuse becomes a heavy accusation and indictment against many parents including some of our own, but there is really no reason why it can't be considered child abuse.
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Post by rainbow on May 16, 2018 11:10:37 GMT 10
Spanking isn't generally child abuse unless it leads to bruises, broken bones, prolonged marks, etc. There is a fine line between spanking your child in hopes of teaching them a lesson and brutally beating them up. Now, I'm not saying beating your child up is ever ok. It isn't, but when parents talk about "spanking" their kids, they generally mean giving their child a slap in the face or hitting them with the belt, as opposed to doing serious fatal injury. Even if it's for a reason, beating a child up in ways that could harm their bodies physically is NEVER ok. That seems arbitrary. Would, for example, hitting your wife have to result in injury for it to be considered spousal abuse? I would imagine not. I think what rainbow is trying to say is that smacking ought to be considered child abuse, even though it isn't in contemporary parlance. The only reason hitting your child isn't considered child abuse is because it's so common and something many of us grew up with. Calling these actions child abuse becomes a heavy accusation and indictment against many parents including some of our own, but there is really no reason why it can't be considered child abuse. I can kind of see what dount2005 is saying. Spanking is pretty much like teaching your kids the "hard way" not to do stuff, but I still don't think it works. At least from my experience, and I will admittedly say this, it kind of made me a bit more violent myself. I mean, how are you going to teach me how to not do the wrong stuff when you're teaching me the wrong way that I shouldn't do it? Both my mom and dad spanked me (and they still will). Sometimes, my mom will say "If you don't stop etc. etc. Imma whoop your ass" She's white, so she definitely got that from my black dad.
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Post by SharksFan99 on May 16, 2018 11:14:33 GMT 10
I can't get behind spanking as punishment at all. A slap on the wrist (with a hand, not an object) if the child is putting themselves in danger (like they are going to touch a hot stove, etc) is one thing. Touching their bottom as a punshiment is 100% not okay, regardless of the degree of force. How does one teach non-violence to a child while exhibiting violence? How does one teach boundaries to a child while invading those boundaries? There are other forms of punishment that are probably more effective. I agree. If a parent needs to resort to using physical punishment to get their message across to the child, it's simply bad parenting. I know a verbal warning doesn't always suffice, but you're right, there are other forms of punishment which are more effective.
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Post by rainbow on May 16, 2018 11:29:25 GMT 10
I can't get behind spanking as punishment at all. A slap on the wrist (with a hand, not an object) if the child is putting themselves in danger (like they are going to touch a hot stove, etc) is one thing. Touching their bottom as a punshiment is 100% not okay, regardless of the degree of force. How does one teach non-violence to a child while exhibiting violence? How does one teach boundaries to a child while invading those boundaries?
There are other forms of punishment that are probably more effective. This is easily the best argument on this thread so far, and that's coming from someone who has parents that spank.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 11:59:16 GMT 10
That seems arbitrary. Would, for example, hitting your wife have to result in injury for it to be considered spousal abuse? I would imagine not. I think what rainbow is trying to say is that smacking ought to be considered child abuse, even though it isn't in contemporary parlance. The only reason hitting your child isn't considered child abuse is because it's so common and something many of us grew up with. Calling these actions child abuse becomes a heavy accusation and indictment against many parents including some of our own, but there is really no reason why it can't be considered child abuse. I can kind of see what dount2005 is saying. Spanking is pretty much like teaching your kids the "hard way" not to do stuff, but I still don't think it works. At least from my experience, and I will admittedly say this, it kind of made me a bit more violent myself. I mean, how are you going to teach me how to not do the wrong stuff when you're teaching me the wrong way that I shouldn't do it? Both my mom and dad spanked me (and they still will). Sometimes, my mom will say "If you don't stop etc. etc. Imma whoop your ass" She's white, so she definitely got that from my black dad. It perhaps works to some extent, compared to not disciplining your child at all, which is far too common nowadays, but I'm not convinced violence is more effective than non-violent forms of discipline. You're right to feel it wasn't very effective: study after study shows that children who are hit as a form of discipline exhibit more aggressive and anti-social behaviour than those who aren't hit, and are more likely to suffer from depression (https://news.utexas.edu/2016/04/25/risks-of-harm-from-spanking-confirmed-by-researchers). It's simply not an effective form of discipline. I'm sorry but "whoop your ass" sounds funny in my head coming from a white mother's mouth My (South Asian) parents used to hit (slap) me a lot, but I'm too old for that now. My mom sometimes tries to get me to hit my little sisters. Admittedly, I used to give them a gentle knock on the head when I was a teen (and they were 4-6ish) when they weren't listening, it didn't usually work. My brother straight up beat them up After I went off to uni though and gained an appreciation for the scientific method and learnt about ethics, I don't hit them, and neither does my brother thankfully. My mom still tries to get me to hit them, but I usually just take their laptop, iPad or TV away. They listen to me way more than they listen to my mom. They don't take my mom seriously right up until she hits them, but when my mom's calmed down they go back to their usual behaviour. They know mom's disciplinary method relies 100% on her being angry or ticked off, if she's not angry then there won't be any real discipline. With me, I tell them "if you don't do what I say, you're not getting your laptop until after the weekend", and I say it in a calm, stern way. They know I'm going to follow through on my threat because I always do. They can beg, cry, apologize profusedly, which is what they usually do, but I keep that laptop locked up until Monday after-school just like I said I would. They know me disciplining them doesn't rely on my mood swings, but entirely on their behaviour. And that's why my mom has resorted to calling me when someone needs to put some sense into them.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on Jun 5, 2022 10:43:28 GMT 10
no, parents who won’t shut up about “discipline” should not have kids
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2022 22:33:02 GMT 10
Not at all. Me saying this doesn't make me a "soft liberal" either, the research backs up my stance.
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