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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 12:10:49 GMT 10
I’m confused, how would someone going about they’re day walking assuming that’s all they’re doing be showing arousal in a public setting ? There are people who have described this as their experience. There are also physical signs. Such as b0ners. Boners are involuntary triggered and happen without activating. It’s not like all trans women have a button to push that makes them disappear except for tucking which can be painful and a major reason why many go through SRS because it gets rid of this problem especially when wearing tight clothing. Anybody will tell you boners in public happen by accident not willingly
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Post by rainbow on May 27, 2022 12:12:16 GMT 10
I mean I think it's pretty simple. A trans-woman has dysphoria and doesn't want to be in a male body. They want to be seen as a woman. They're not necessarily turned on by the thought of being a woman. Someone who is autogynephilic is turned on by the thought of being a woman and they don't do it because they have gender dysphoria. They do it because it's a fetish. Unless you're asking how we can tell the difference in terms of appearance. Normally a trans-woman will put in more effort to look like a woman since they're the ones with legit dysphoria. They're more likely to to undergo medical transition. Undergoing medical transiting is easier said then done considering not everyone can afford it, not all trans women can manage to look hyper fem(cis passable) regardless how much they try and it seems to be these un passing trans women who bear the brunt of transphobia who get labeled as autogynphelic. If cis women who are masculine don’t get they’re womanhood attacked why are trans women attacked for it ? You're right that not all trans-women can afford to undergo medical transition. That's why we want to discourage the fetishists from cross-dressing in public because as I mentioned before, it puts a bad image on actual trans-women who actually have dysphoria and don't pass. It's the reason why they should keep it in the bedroom instead.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on May 27, 2022 12:13:19 GMT 10
There are people who have described this as their experience. There are also physical signs. Such as b0ners. Boners are involuntary triggered and happen without activating. It’s not like all trans women have a button to push that makes them disappear except for tucking which can be painful and a major reason why many go through SRS because it gets rid of this problem especially when wearing tight clothing. Anybody will tell you boners in public happen by accident not willingly i’ve seen tons of transwomen (transbians) say they get boners when wearing women’s clothes, and they call them “euphoria boners.” 95% of the time a boner is caused by arousal
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Post by aja675 on May 27, 2022 12:15:23 GMT 10
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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 12:20:31 GMT 10
Boners are involuntary triggered and happen without activating. It’s not like all trans women have a button to push that makes them disappear except for tucking which can be painful and a major reason why many go through SRS because it gets rid of this problem especially when wearing tight clothing. Anybody will tell you boners in public happen by accident not willingly i’ve seen tons of transwomen (transbians) say they get boners when wearing women’s clothes, and they call them “euphoria boners.” 95% of the time a boner is caused by arousal Anybody can get a boner even cis men, why is it any bodies business they got a boner if they’re not acting on it, sometimes you can’t even see if people get boners unless they have a huge bulge. While people like that exist, are you going to get angry at every person you catch with a boner in public ? With the exception someone was wearing women's clothes ? Not to mention a lot of trans women and cross dressers tuck
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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 12:22:43 GMT 10
Undergoing medical transiting is easier said then done considering not everyone can afford it, not all trans women can manage to look hyper fem(cis passable) regardless how much they try and it seems to be these un passing trans women who bear the brunt of transphobia who get labeled as autogynphelic. If cis women who are masculine don’t get they’re womanhood attacked why are trans women attacked for it ? You're right that not all trans-women can afford to undergo medical transition. That's why we want to discourage the fetishists from cross-dressing in public because as I mentioned before, it puts a bad image on actual trans-women who actually have dysphoria and don't pass. It's the reason why they should keep it in the bedroom instead. In the real world it doesn’t matter if someone was a cross dresser or not, being read a gender non-conforming and not passing will get you harassed in public regardless of your trans or cross dressing. That’s not exactly a promised solution to transphobia.
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Post by rainbow on May 27, 2022 12:26:31 GMT 10
You're right that not all trans-women can afford to undergo medical transition. That's why we want to discourage the fetishists from cross-dressing in public because as I mentioned before, it puts a bad image on actual trans-women who actually have dysphoria and don't pass. It's the reason why they should keep it in the bedroom instead. In the real world it doesn’t matter if someone was a cross dresser or not, being read a gender non-conforming and not passing will get you harassed in public regardless of your trans or cross dressing. That’s not exactly a promised solution to transphobia. But I’m not claiming that if you’re not passing and are trans that you suddenly won’t get harassed. I’m just saying that for those who cross-dress for fetishist reasons, they should be discouraged from cross-dressing in public. They should keep it in private.
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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 12:30:09 GMT 10
In the real world it doesn’t matter if someone was a cross dresser or not, being read a gender non-conforming and not passing will get you harassed in public regardless of your trans or cross dressing. That’s not exactly a promised solution to transphobia. But I’m not claiming that if you’re not passing and are trans that you suddenly won’t get harassed. I’m just saying that for those who cross-dress for fetishist reasons, they should be discouraged from cross-dressing in public. They should keep it in private. I’m saying in real life you won’t be able to tell which is what your assuming you can because actual trans women put more effort allegedly. I personally believe all perverts should be off the street cis or trans.
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on May 27, 2022 12:31:30 GMT 10
But I’m not claiming that if you’re not passing and are trans that you suddenly won’t get harassed. I’m just saying that for those who cross-dress for fetishist reasons, they should be discouraged from cross-dressing in public. They should keep it in private. I’m saying in real life you won’t be able to tell which is what your assuming you can because actual trans women put more effort allegedly. I personally believe all perverts should be off the street cis or trans. what do you think about the transwomen that pressure lesbians to sleep with them
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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 12:35:22 GMT 10
I’m saying in real life you won’t be able to tell which is what your assuming you can because actual trans women put more effort allegedly. I personally believe all perverts should be off the street cis or trans. what do you think about the transwomen that pressure lesbians to sleep with them I like how you didn’t even really have an actual good answer between the difference from someone like Caitlyn Jenner and Eden the Doll. Also by the way Riley is pretty passable for the most part. Personally I don’t think anybody should be pressured into sex and if a woman does decide to go forth with it with a trans woman then that’s they’re choice
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Post by rainbow on May 27, 2022 12:36:14 GMT 10
But I’m not claiming that if you’re not passing and are trans that you suddenly won’t get harassed. I’m just saying that for those who cross-dress for fetishist reasons, they should be discouraged from cross-dressing in public. They should keep it in private. I’m saying in real life you won’t be able to tell which is what your assuming you can because actual trans women put more effort allegedly. I personally believe all perverts should be off the street cis or trans. Well, actual trans women are much more likely to put more effort into their appearance because they're literally the one's who have to suffer the mental health effects of gender dysphoria. It's not rocket science, and I genuinely don't understand what is so confusing about what I'm saying. Yes, sometimes we won't be able to tell, but we shouldn't have to ask ourselves "Is this a trans-woman or an autogynephilic person?" If people with autogynephilia just kept it in private, then we wouldn't have to be able to tell the difference. It would just be non-passing trans-women out in public.
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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 12:37:55 GMT 10
I’m saying in real life you won’t be able to tell which is what your assuming you can because actual trans women put more effort allegedly. I personally believe all perverts should be off the street cis or trans. Well, actual trans women are much more likely to put more effort into their appearance because they're literally the one's who have to suffer the mental health effects of gender dysphoria. It's not rocket science, and I genuinely don't understand what is so confusing about what I'm saying. Yes, sometimes we won't be able to tell, but we shouldn't have to ask ourselves "Is this a trans-woman or an autogynephilic person?" If people with autogynephilia just kept it in private, then we wouldn't have to be able to tell the difference. It would just be non-passing trans-women out in public. Okay your not understand that there is no absolute way to measure how hard someone is putting into they’re appearance to pass and how not messed up that is to ask trans people to do that just so they don’t make up uncomfortable. Seems like a double standard to me
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Post by rainbow on May 27, 2022 12:51:48 GMT 10
Well, actual trans women are much more likely to put more effort into their appearance because they're literally the one's who have to suffer the mental health effects of gender dysphoria. It's not rocket science, and I genuinely don't understand what is so confusing about what I'm saying. Yes, sometimes we won't be able to tell, but we shouldn't have to ask ourselves "Is this a trans-woman or an autogynephilic person?" If people with autogynephilia just kept it in private, then we wouldn't have to be able to tell the difference. It would just be non-passing trans-women out in public. Okay your not understand that there is no absolute way to measure how hard someone is putting into they’re appearance to pass and how not messed up that is to ask trans people to do that just so they don’t make up uncomfortable. Seems like a double standard to me 
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Post by carcar on May 27, 2022 13:01:18 GMT 10
Okay your not understand that there is no absolute way to measure how hard someone is putting into they’re appearance to pass and how not messed up that is to ask trans people to do that just so they don’t make up uncomfortable. Seems like a double standard to me The only thing I agree with you is perverts should stay away from the street but that doesn’t apply just for trans women or cross dressers but everybody which seems to be the main problem here. The problem someone here conflated that someone who looks trans out in public could possible be a perverted autogynphle because they’re a showing they’re boner and doing public indecency
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Post by crystalmetheny0428 on May 27, 2022 13:10:12 GMT 10
The only thing I agree with you is perverts should stay away from the street but that doesn’t apply just for trans women or cross dressers but everybody which seems to be the main problem here. The problem someone here conflated that someone who looks trans out in public could possible be a perverted autogynphle because they’re a showing they’re boner and doing public indecency i don’t think transbians should transition and that’s my closing statement for the night
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