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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 1, 2018 0:21:16 GMT 10
Inspired by a post @slowpoke1993 made in this thread. When do you think '50s nostalgia was largely phased out in the mainstream? I would personally say that it was phased out around 2009/2010. Up until that point in time, '50s nostalgia remained quite prevalent. I can even remember hearing references to '50s rock 'n roll in certain television shows produced at the time.
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Post by Telso on Aug 7, 2018 20:58:02 GMT 10
As a whole I would say somewhere in the late 90s, even though in the whole 90s themselves it was more in form of a desconstruction of it (to emphasize how the 60s shook things up) and not really the "utopia from the past" image it had in the 70s and 80s. Sure, there was a resurgence for some of its music back then, but it was more "vintage 20th century" as whole than really specifically 50s.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 8, 2018 21:20:26 GMT 10
As a whole I would say somewhere in the late 90s, even though in the whole 90s themselves it was more in form of a desconstruction of it (to emphasize how the 60s shook things up) and not really the "utopia from the past" image it had in the 70s and 80s. Sure, there was a resurgence for some of its music back then, but it was more "vintage 20th century" as whole than really specifically 50s. It's interesting to hear that you believe '50s nostalgia was phased out in the Late '90s, because like I mentioned in my original post, I can distinctively remember hearing references to '50s rock 'n roll in many lifestyle/travel programs even as recently as 2008. Coincidentally, I actually watched a 2007 episode of an Australian travel program called "The Great Outdoors" just a couple of days ago and there was a brief segment where they promoted a '50s rock 'n roll festival in Adelaide. I guess it likely would have varied from country to country.
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Post by al on Aug 13, 2018 12:23:42 GMT 10
It's one of those things imo that's so engrained into pop culture it can't ever really go away. It definitely waxes and wanes though. That may be influenced by the media a bit, such as by popular movies taking place in the era.
I have vague memories of 50's nostalgia being passé compared to late 60's/early 70's nostalgia (aka Brady Bunch/Austin Powers) in the late 90's.
Around 2012 there were some 50's to early 60's styles that were briefly popular, I'm thinking the early One Direction era/when Olly Murs had a few US hits. Basically everyone started wearing black Wayfarer's, girls wanted to be Audrey Hepburn and guys were wearing suspenders and slick hair. Some just called it "classy". This of course isn't super literal and is still just the personal style of many, but it was fairly trendy earlier this decade.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Aug 27, 2018 22:16:28 GMT 10
It's one of those things imo that's so engrained into pop culture it can't ever really go away. It definitely waxes and wanes though. That may be influenced by the media a bit, such as by popular movies taking place in the era. I have vague memories of 50's nostalgia being passé compared to late 60's/early 70's nostalgia (aka Brady Bunch/Austin Powers) in the late 90's. Around 2012 there were some 50's to early 60's styles that were briefly popular, I'm thinking the early One Direction era/when Olly Murs had a few US hits. Basically everyone started wearing black Wayfarer's, girls wanted to be Audrey Hepburn and guys were wearing suspenders and slick hair. Some just called it "classy". This of course isn't super literal and is still just the personal style of many, but it was fairly trendy earlier this decade. While I agree that '50s pop culture will likely remain ingrained into pop culture for the foreseeable future, I do have my doubts about whether it will remain ingrained permanently. I think we will eventually get to a point where the 1950s have no connection/relevance to the current generation whatsoever and subsequently, any remaining nostalgia for the 1950s will be phased out for good. I remember RockyMountainExtreme made a thread not too long ago about how the 1950s are fast becoming a "dead mans" decade and I believe that is really starting to ring true. When you think about it, the year 1950 is almost 70 years ago. Those who are old enough to have substantial memories of the decade are either now well into their retirement years or are becoming increasingly frail. In the not too distant future, we will get to a point where no living person has any memories of the 1950s. The influence of the 1950s on current pop culture will gradually decline as time progresses.
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Post by al on Aug 29, 2018 2:40:37 GMT 10
It's one of those things imo that's so engrained into pop culture it can't ever really go away. It definitely waxes and wanes though. That may be influenced by the media a bit, such as by popular movies taking place in the era. I have vague memories of 50's nostalgia being passé compared to late 60's/early 70's nostalgia (aka Brady Bunch/Austin Powers) in the late 90's. Around 2012 there were some 50's to early 60's styles that were briefly popular, I'm thinking the early One Direction era/when Olly Murs had a few US hits. Basically everyone started wearing black Wayfarer's, girls wanted to be Audrey Hepburn and guys were wearing suspenders and slick hair. Some just called it "classy". This of course isn't super literal and is still just the personal style of many, but it was fairly trendy earlier this decade. While I agree that '50s pop culture will likely remain ingrained into pop culture for the foreseeable future, I do have my doubts about whether it will remain ingrained permanently. I think we will eventually get to a point where the 1950s have no connection/relevance to the current generation whatsoever and subsequently, any remaining nostalgia for the 1950s will be phased out for good. I remember RockyMountainExtreme made a thread not too long ago about how the 1950s are fast becoming a "dead mans" decade and I believe that is really starting to ring true. When you think about it, the year 1950 is almost 70 years ago. Those who are old enough to have substantial memories of the decade are either now well into their retirement years or are becoming increasingly frail. In the not too distant future, we will get to a point where no living person has any memories of the 1950s. The influence of the 1950s on current pop culture will gradually decline as time progresses. One aspect of 50's nostalgia that has been unique is how it has been praised by some as this kind of ideal. As if it were these happy, simple times those who remembered longed to go back to, and those too young wished they could experience. (I'm sensing this now with the 90's a bit?) However, as we better recognize the level of oppression that was going on at the time, and we culturally advance, I do think the idea of the 50's are growing less appealing. Still, I think the 50's will live on in the way the 20's do, the pioneer days do, and the middle ages do. They are truly a time with such iconic imagery and mores that it's hard for them to not stand out when recounting our journey to modern civilization. As those with their own memories fade themselves, I imagine the era will resemble more of a fantasy than it will actually evoke any desire for the experience.
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Post by #Infinity on Aug 30, 2018 9:25:46 GMT 10
It was starting to become passé around the late '80s, when stuff like The Wonder Years, Dirty Dancing, and the musical comebacks of certain '60s musical figures or styles rendered the carefree utopianism of the 1950s an obsolete escape. It had still been going pretty strong in the mid-80s with Billy Joel's An Innocent Man album, Back to the Future, and a fair number of rockabilly-style tracks still achieving reasonable success.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 4:38:03 GMT 10
On the subject of the deconstruction-ness (yes, made up word) of the 1950s during the '90s:
As to the main point, I want to point out that 1950s nostalgia does still exist. Exhibit A would be The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, a fantastic TV show set in 1958-1959 (so far). Also pretty heavy on the deconstruction there. I might also point to Brendon Urie's penchant for recalling the crooners in his look and vocal style, but that doesn't necessarily need to tie back to the '50s (more like '30s and '40s). There's also Postmodern Jukebox, but that's not strictly '50s nostalgia and it remains relatively obscure.
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Post by John Titor on Feb 23, 2019 12:06:05 GMT 10
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Post by SharksFan99 on Feb 23, 2019 21:33:26 GMT 10
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Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 25, 2019 15:54:48 GMT 10
I feel that the '10s will be the last decade in the long run for '50s nostalgia in the media appealing to those who actually experienced the decade rather than those born after who just have a niche idea about it.
At the start of this decade (2010), those that would've been between the ages of 16-20 at some point in the '50s were 67-80 years of age, which is not young, but not too old, still young enough to where they're still lively, self-reliant, and independent, many of them were even still working and hadn't retired yet at that time. Come 2020, they will be 77-90 years of age, and will either be at the tail end of their days of being self-reliant and independent before they're going to need assisted care, or are already at the age where they need assisted care, plus many of them are dying already.
I do believe that late '50s nostalgia, which ties into early '60s nostalgia, may have its last gasp in the 2020s however. In fact, just earlier this year, I saw an infomercial on a collection of songs from the late '50s early '60s, which was targeted at those who were youth age in that time period. That infomercial could last into the 2020s if it works in 2019.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Nov 25, 2019 17:05:00 GMT 10
I feel that the '10s will be the last decade in the long run for '50s nostalgia in the media appealing to those who actually experienced the decade rather than those born after who just have a niche idea about it. Would the people old enough to have experienced the '50s still be paying attention to what's trending in the media though? I feel as though the point in which '50s nostalgia last appealed to the masses who experienced them was surpassed many years ago, possibly dating as far back as the Late '80s. Every '50s revival trend since then has been popularised and appealed to those who weren't even alive during the 1950s.
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Post by mc98 on Nov 26, 2019 1:17:16 GMT 10
I feel that the '10s will be the last decade in the long run for '50s nostalgia in the media appealing to those who actually experienced the decade rather than those born after who just have a niche idea about it. Would the people old enough to have experienced the '50s still be paying attention to what's trending in the media though? I feel as though the point in which '50s nostalgia last appealed to the masses who experienced them was surpassed many years ago, possibly dating as far back as the Late '80s. Every '50s revival trend since then has been popularised and appealed to those who weren't even alive during the 1950s. It’s like with Meghan Trainor in 2014. Her songs All About That Bass and Lips Are Movin were heavily inspired by late 50s early 60s Doo Wop.
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Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 26, 2019 2:19:13 GMT 10
I feel that the '10s will be the last decade in the long run for '50s nostalgia in the media appealing to those who actually experienced the decade rather than those born after who just have a niche idea about it. Would the people old enough to have experienced the '50s still be paying attention to what's trending in the media though? I feel as though the point in which '50s nostalgia last appealed to the masses who experienced them was surpassed many years ago, possibly dating as far back as the Late '80s. Every '50s revival trend since then has been popularised and appealed to those who weren't even alive during the 1950s. Not in the mainstream pop cultural media, but they are still being advertised to through appeals to nostalgia. One such example is the "Malt Shop Memories" infomercial, which is geared towards those who were youth age in the late '50s and early '60s, as it appeals to their nostalgia in order to get them to purchase this product.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 2:48:35 GMT 10
I'd say '50s nostalgia is one of the driving factors of our society right now if you live in the USA. Part of the reason for Donald Trump's popularity and the rise of right-wing authoritarianism is this collective desire we have in the USA to return to the social norms and structure of the 1950s. It's widely viewed as the last decade before America lost its innocence. Since the 1960s, the '50s have been held up and given almost mythical status as the "good ole days" before liberalism, secularism, and the sexual revolution destroyed American society. It was the last decade before the Vietnam War, which played a big factor in the country's loss of faith in American institutions that persists to this day. It was the last decade before the counter culture and those weed-smoking hippies, which still gets blamed for destroying the moral fabric of American society. America has never moved on from the '50s and I fear that may end up being this country's undoing.
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