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Post by SharksFan99 on Dec 29, 2018 14:32:51 GMT 10
Yeah, you're right. I agree with you. I think 2010 can be considered the final year of the 2000s. But 2011 is sort of iffy. Maybe the duo of 2011 and 2012 sits on its own... the early 2010s, as you put it. They're strange years, because they aren't exactly like the 2000s, yet they aren't like the rest of the 2010s. And thanks! This forum is pretty cool. Yep. Although, there isn't really a right or wrong answer when talking about the lifespan of cultural eras, because it's completely subjective and the rate in which pop culture evolves would vary from country to country.  For instance, 2007 is often considered to be a significant year for technology in the US due to the launch of the iPhone, but the iPhone wasn't introduced here in Australia until July 2008. No worries! Glad to hear that you are liking it. Also, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears had their last big hits this year. Lady Gaga had her last big hits as a solo artist. Her collaboration with Bradley Cooper ("Shallow") has been a bit hit this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 14:41:06 GMT 10
Isn't 2013 when music went from dance pop to indie? I remember when I heard Royals by Lorde it felt like we were in another decade. And Blurred Lines sounded so different than pop songs from before. I agree with this 100%. I would say the change really began at the end of 2012. Songs like "Hey Ho" by the Lumineers, "Some Nights" by Fun, "Thrift Shop," by Macklemore, and others were a pretty significant departure from what had come before. 2013 solidified that change with the decline of electropop and the rise of EDM and teen pop. 2012 and 2013 were also the years that hipster culture really began to explode in the mainstream everywhere. Prior to 2012, whether or not you were in the hipster era yet depended largely on where you lived. In 2010 and 2011 I remember scene and emo still holding onto life and I was in North Carolina at that time.
I would say Obama's re-election and the Trayvon Martin incident also were factors in the shift. Around the end of 2012, the overall culture and mood in society shifted from the early '10s to the mid '10s.
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Post by aja675 on Jan 4, 2019 15:06:30 GMT 10
In conclusion, I think that December 2013's chart still had more early '10s pop/EDM than December 2001. I think December 2001's chart only had three teen pop songs. 3 cheesy songs versus 10 or more cheesy songs.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 4, 2019 21:59:43 GMT 10
Tbh I don’t really agree with Late 2012/early 2013 being the “shift” from the early 10s to mid 10s. Indie and EDM music blew up in 2011. So did the Hipster fashion. Plus, there was still electropop around. Late 2013/early 2014 was when things are “shifting”. Late 2011 - Mid 2013 in my eyes is like a toned down early 10s.
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Post by aja675 on Jan 4, 2019 22:01:22 GMT 10
In conclusion, I think that December 2013's chart still had more early '10s pop/EDM than December 2001. I think December 2001's chart only had three teen pop songs. 3 cheesy songs versus 10 or more cheesy songs. December 2001 vs. December 2013, I mean.
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Post by Telso on Jan 4, 2019 23:25:19 GMT 10
It's not a matter of amount of cheesy songs though that separates the early 2010s from the the mid lol. If anything a year like 2014 was probably even cheesier than 2010 and 2011 combined. It's the production values of most Pop songs that differentiate the two eras. In the early 2010s, Electro-House and Electroclash-influences reigned supreme, with tons of songs incorporating buzzing, low-frequency synths with very high BPM. This trend almost completely vanished in 2013, where slower synths, kick drums and Progressive influences were the modus operandi for production values, with the exception of Dubstep having still a few Pop fusions here and there throughout the year.
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Post by aja675 on Jan 4, 2019 23:32:35 GMT 10
I still think I know how to distinguish between early '10s and mid '10s cheese.
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Post by mc98 on Jan 5, 2019 1:51:29 GMT 10
It's not a matter of amount of cheesy songs though that separates the early 2010s from the the mid lol. If anything a year like 2014 was probably even cheesier than 2010 and 2011 combined. It's the production values of most Pop songs that differentiate the two eras. In the early 2010s, Electro-House and Electroclash-influences reigned supreme, with tons of songs incorporating buzzing, low-frequency synths with very high BPM. This trend almost completely vanished in 2013, where slower synths, kick drums and Progressive influences were the modus operandi for production values, with the exception of Dubstep having still a few Pop fusions here and there throughout the year. I agree. 2013 doesn’t have the electropop sound as much as 2010-2012. I believe 2013 stands on its own tbh. It’s like the early 10s is aging while the mid 10s is in its early childhood stage.
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Post by aja675 on Jan 5, 2019 1:58:08 GMT 10
But it still wasn't dead yet, that's what stands out.
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Post by John Titor on Jan 5, 2019 9:03:36 GMT 10
Isn't 2013 when music went from dance pop to indie? I remember when I heard Royals by Lorde it felt like we were in another decade. And Blurred Lines sounded so different than pop songs from before. I agree with this 100%. I would say the change really began at the end of 2012. Songs like "Hey Ho" by the Lumineers, "Some Nights" by Fun, "Thrift Shop," by Macklemore, and others were a pretty significant departure from what had come before. 2013 solidified that change with the decline of electropop and the rise of EDM and teen pop. 2012 and 2013 were also the years that hipster culture really began to explode in the mainstream everywhere. Prior to 2012, whether or not you were in the hipster era yet depended largely on where you lived. In 2010 and 2011 I remember scene and emo still holding onto life and I was in North Carolina at that time.
I would say Obama's re-election and the Trayvon Martin incident also were factors in the shift. Around the end of 2012, the overall culture and mood in society shifted from the early '10s to the mid '10s.
The hipster era started in late 2008, but it did not kick off officially until late 2011/ early 2012 By Late 2008 American Apparel and other hipster stores rose in popularity in NJ , it had a slow slow slow rise because it was going against the emo/pop punk era, once emo/scene declined in late 2009 is when the Hipster movement started going on the direction it had until 2016
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Post by pink.panda_v3 on Jan 5, 2019 11:59:54 GMT 10
2013 was a weird, transitional year. Early 2013 (January-April) was the beginning of the transition. By late 2013, mid 2010s fully arrived.
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Post by aja675 on Jan 7, 2019 0:35:51 GMT 10
2013 was probably the last year that was politically moderate. You never heard the term SJW or Alt-right. It was also the last year with that old IOS look. 2013 was the year when selfie starts to takeoff but it didn’t reach the huge amount of heights until that Oscars selfie and the Chainsmokers song. Dubstep and electropop was still popular in this year, especially the first half. Also, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears had their last big hits this year. Indie and Retro stuff was replacing the electro sound in 2013. Hipster fashion rose during 2013. Games like Minecraft was the king of games in that time. Despite the rise of Instagram and Snapchat, Facebook was still the top social media platform. IMO, 2013 is a mixture of mostly early 10s and mid 10s being in its infant stage. How about the percentage of early '10s and mid '10s in the three parts of 2013?
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Post by mc98 on Jan 7, 2019 1:01:13 GMT 10
2013 was probably the last year that was politically moderate. You never heard the term SJW or Alt-right. It was also the last year with that old IOS look. 2013 was the year when selfie starts to takeoff but it didn’t reach the huge amount of heights until that Oscars selfie and the Chainsmokers song. Dubstep and electropop was still popular in this year, especially the first half. Also, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears had their last big hits this year. Indie and Retro stuff was replacing the electro sound in 2013. Hipster fashion rose during 2013. Games like Minecraft was the king of games in that time. Despite the rise of Instagram and Snapchat, Facebook was still the top social media platform. IMO, 2013 is a mixture of mostly early 10s and mid 10s being in its infant stage. How about the percentage of early '10s and mid '10s in the three parts of 2013? January - April: 90% Early 2010s, 10% Mid 2010s May - August: 75% Early 2010s, 25% Mid 2010s September - December: 50% Early 2010s, 50% Mid 2010s
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 14:42:36 GMT 10
Tbh I don’t really agree with Late 2012/early 2013 being the “shift” from the early 10s to mid 10s. Indie and EDM music blew up in 2011. So did the Hipster fashion. Plus, there was still electropop around. Late 2013/early 2014 was when things are “shifting”. Late 2011 - Mid 2013 in my eyes is like a toned down early 10s. A lot of weight is placed on the decline of electropop (especially Gaga and Ke$ha), but less emphasis is placed on what remained the same or evolved slowly between the early '10s and the mid '10s. Though electropop was replaced by EDM and indie folk pretty suddenly, other genres such as hip-hop, R&B, and teen pop experienced more of a slow evolution. The political tension was amped up a notch at the end of 2012 when Obama was re-elected and the Trayvon Martin incident occurred, but the overall feel of the era had remained the same since the late 2000s. Momentum was predominantly on the side of liberalism, though an angry, hateful conservative backlash was slowly growing in the shadows that would rear its ugly head in 2016 and completely dominate the late '10s.
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Post by Telso on Jan 8, 2019 17:09:39 GMT 10
Despite Macklemore (which had a massive Pop appeal anyway) and some Eminem, I actually don't remember much Hip Hop being popular in 2013... Now that's something that changed a lot in 5 years  .
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For instance, 2007 is often considered to be a significant year for technology in the US due to the launch of the iPhone, but the iPhone wasn't introduced here in Australia until July 2008. 
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