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Post by mc98 on Aug 24, 2019 15:42:32 GMT 10
I'm tired of seeing people grouping the earlier part of any decade with the previous decade. For example, some people call the early 2000s (2000-2003) an extension of the 90s and that is a completely false statement. The early 00s had a completely different vibe from the 90s. The "90s" things that you see in the early 00s are simply leftovers that lingered throughout the decade but they are completely overshadowed by the current trends of that period. Flannels were dead, Gangsta rap was dead, 90s defining artists changed styles. I worry that in the future that people will call the early 2010s an extension of the "2000s". What do you guys think of this?
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Post by longaotian on Aug 24, 2019 16:05:40 GMT 10
I feel like people who make this claim the most are those born around 1993-1996 who spent the core of their childhood in the early 2000,s however might have been just old enough to get a grasp of the '90s so they try and hold on to that as much as they can by saying that 2000-2003 was basically the 90s. Also another reason they would make this claim would be because the only part of the '90s they would remember would be the very late part of the decade i.e. '98/'99, which did share alot of similarities with the early 2000s, whereas obviously someone who could remember the first half of the '90s clearly wouldnt think the same.
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Post by mc98 on Aug 25, 2019 0:27:05 GMT 10
I feel like people who make this claim the most are those born around 1993-1996 who spent the core of their childhood in the early 2000,s however might have been just old enough to get a grasp of the '90s so they try and hold on to that as much as they can by saying that 2000-2003 was basically the 90s. Also another reason they would make this claim would be because the only part of the '90s they would remember would be the very late part of the decade i.e. '98/'99, which did share alot of similarities with the early 2000s, whereas obviously someone who could remember the first half of the '90s clearly wouldnt think the same. It’s obvious that the very late 90s lingered over to the early 00s but even that period wasn’t strongly 90s like 1994-1997.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 22:10:32 GMT 10
I'm '90 born, but I'd say there was a late '90s time loop from 2000 until around 2004 (to a consistently decreasing extent until we were truly in the core 2000s in the fall). I will make a separate thread about it later today.
Edit: I’m too tired, maybe tomorrow. But I do have a whole trove of points to make on this, and I low key had been considering doing this for a while anyway.
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Post by al on Aug 30, 2019 3:16:40 GMT 10
I think it all depends on context. In reality, culture doesn’t just flip over once it technically becomes a new decade. There will be things due for a change that are just naturally ready to turn over, and other things that are not done yet.
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-Electro and indie pop and skinny jeans were just getting hot in 2008/9. They ended up exploding in the early 2010’s.
-Emo was big in the mid and late 2000’s. It had a good run and was tired by the early 2010’s.
So regarding 90’s into 00’s, there were indeed things in the first few years of the decade that carried over but did not stick around. VHS is a great example. They were certainly a big thing in the late 80’s and early 00’s, yet are ubiquitously 90’s because it spanned the decade. They share this in common, yet it does not make either era as a whole part of the 90’s.
Sometimes I do not know why the generations community strives to be so absolute. I love a venn diagram.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 3:58:57 GMT 10
You also had Seinfeld-style, three-camera sitcoms, a holdover from the early '90s, still going by and large until 2004. Again, once I can be arsed to write my whole thread about this I will.
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Post by SharksFan99 on Sept 4, 2019 20:15:04 GMT 10
This topic is almost on the verge of decadeology and I am considering locking it, but I will throw my two cents worth in. I think it's pretty obvious that the first few years of any new decade would contain some trends which were popular in the previous decade. Things don't just magically change at the stroke of midnight on the 1st January. I mean, look at how long post-grunge lasted in the mainstream. It lasted a solid 16 years in the Top-40 mainstream, from it's early beginnings around the start of 1994 right up until as recently as 2010.
The fact of the matter is, regardless of what is or what isn't popular, you're always going to get some people who are totally clueless when it comes to identifying a decade's pop culture. I've come across 'starter packs' online which refer to songs released during the second-half of the 2000s as "Early '00s songs". It's easy for us to critique their opinions since we all have an interest in discussing pop culture and it's trends. Unfortunately, most people rely on misinformation and stereotypes to form their judgement of what a decade was like; they don't study the Top-40 charts or take a look at how look certain aesthetics lasted for. There's nothing you can do about it.
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Post by Cassie on Sept 5, 2019 13:35:57 GMT 10
While I don't necessarily agree with this, I will say that the early 2010s feel distinct compared to the other parts of the 2010s.
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Post by rainbow on Sept 10, 2019 6:22:46 GMT 10
I feel like this is usually the case with most decades though. I mean the early 2010s, especially 2010, was different from say 2007, but there's also a lot of similarities as well.
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Post by mh on Sept 11, 2019 1:20:49 GMT 10
As somebody old enough to recall almost the entire '90s, there were a lot of things from the decade that did transition to the early '00s. I can actually recall, as a teenager around 2002, looking at some stuff from the '90s and saying that it looked dated, but not necessarily old yet. It wasn't uncommon, even as late as 2002, for kids to still be playing N64 and PlayStation fairly often. By the mid '00s, though, most stuff even from the late '90s had become very outdated.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 10:51:37 GMT 10
As somebody old enough to recall almost the entire '90s, there were a lot of things from the decade that did transition to the early '00s. I can actually recall, as a teenager around 2002, looking at some stuff from the '90s and saying that it looked dated, but not necessarily old yet. It wasn't uncommon, even as late as 2002, for kids to still be playing N64 and PlayStation fairly often. By the mid '00s, though, most stuff even from the late '90s had become very outdated. I wouldn't say I remember the entire '90s, but I can't exactly disagree.
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Post by mwalker96 on Oct 6, 2019 2:49:17 GMT 10
As somebody old enough to recall almost the entire '90s, there were a lot of things from the decade that did transition to the early '00s. I can actually recall, as a teenager around 2002, looking at some stuff from the '90s and saying that it looked dated, but not necessarily old yet. It wasn't uncommon, even as late as 2002, for kids to still be playing N64 and PlayStation fairly often. By the mid-'00s, though, most stuff even from the late '90s had become very outdated. I can see that even though im too young to experienced the 90s I remember having a lot of 90s holdovers in my childhood. It's one of the main reasons why i never got the who 00s kid bashing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 3:20:56 GMT 10
I was watching a documentary filmed in 2003 and I thought it was the '90s until some obvious signs gave it away. To be fair it was in Texas and the people were middle aged, but the VHS tapes and people paying with cash and just the social attitude people had (as opposed to being on their phone all the time) made it looks very 90s.
I think the late 90s and early 2000s are one large era. 1998 has more in common with 2003 than 1993. It's not like 2000 came and everything changed overnight lol. It's an arbitrary way of looking at things.
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Post by Early2010sGuy on Oct 22, 2019 16:18:48 GMT 10
I usually consider the very late parts of a decade and the very early parts of a decade it's own era. For example, the Y2K era from September 1998 to April 2001 (Sorry John Titor, I noticed that there were still some Core 90s stuff lingering around until August 1998), and the Electropop Era (Part 1 of it) from September 2008 to April 2011.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 21:10:42 GMT 10
I usually consider the very late parts of a decade and the very early parts of a decade it's own era. For example, the Y2K era from September 1998 to April 2001 (Sorry John Titor, I noticed that there were still some Core 90s stuff lingering around until August 1998), and the Electropop Era (Part 1 of it) from September 2008 to April 2011. Oh I’d go further than that even. The Y2K era, I think, lasted right up to 9/11, and even then there were some holdover elements all the way up to September 2004 (as referenced above). The true transition began with Frasier and Friends going off the air that spring, to be replaced by Lost that fall. Even the electropop era arguably hung on until mid-summer 2011. Born This Way comes to mind.
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